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Assassinated 35 years ago today November 27, 1978 (Original Post) Playinghardball Nov 2013 OP
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Nov 2013 #1
And don't forget Mayor Moscone. KamaAina Nov 2013 #2
White was a pariah upon his all-too-soon release duffyduff Nov 2013 #3
The method that he chose to kill himself is redolent with symbolism KamaAina Nov 2013 #5
He didn't kill Moscone and Milk, and he didn't kill himself! Archae Nov 2013 #11
Imagine how it would be if we had a Senator Milk now truebluegreen Nov 2013 #10
Oh hell yeah KamaAina Nov 2013 #13
Oh crap! passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #15
Chuck Prophet's tribute to Harvey Milk and George Moscone: White Nights, Big City DreamGypsy Nov 2013 #4
thank you for the reminder. when I first heard the news that awful day, I immediately thought that niyad Nov 2013 #6
I thought the movie with Sean Penn was very good. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2013 #7
Oh damn.. Cha Nov 2013 #8
One of the finest documentaries I've ever seen "The Times of Harvey Milk." Lex Nov 2013 #9
Oh man... that long ago... calimary Nov 2013 #12
How could I be this ignorant? passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #14
Everyones birthday has some horrible event associated with it. Sirveri Nov 2013 #21
kick Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #16
DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2013 #17
The last few decades of California politics could've been so different if Moscone and Milk nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #18
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #19
Harvey Milk tavalon Nov 2013 #20
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
2. And don't forget Mayor Moscone.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:24 PM
Nov 2013

I have long maintained that had Dan White killed only Mayor Moscone, and not Harvey as well, he would have gone to the gas chamber.

Aside: The chair of the Board of Supervisors at the time was a political neophyte named Dianne Feinstein. So White's bullets also unleashed her on California.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
3. White was a pariah upon his all-too-soon release
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:31 PM
Nov 2013

and committed suicide. Nobody ever let him forget what he did.

Dan White shot Moscone over White's financial and job situation, while poor Harvey Milk was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. The method that he chose to kill himself is redolent with symbolism
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:34 PM
Nov 2013

he put an exhaust pipe in his mouth.

Archae

(46,335 posts)
11. He didn't kill Moscone and Milk, and he didn't kill himself!
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:17 PM
Nov 2013

It was a conspiracy by the CIA and J. Edgar Hoover!
(Even though Hoover was claimed to have already died, but you know we can't trust what the government says!)


DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
4. Chuck Prophet's tribute to Harvey Milk and George Moscone: White Nights, Big City
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:33 PM
Nov 2013

From SF Weekly

With his new video for "White Night, Big City," Prophet deals again with a Castro-related conflict: The 1979 riots that followed the lenient sentencing of Dan White, who murdered S.F. supervisor and gay rights activist Harvey Milk and then-mayor George Moscone. The riots took place the night of May 21, after White was convicted of voluntary manslaughter -- not first-degree murder. After the ruling, Castro erupted into a violent confrontation between gays and police, a standoff that eventually led to the gay community gaining more influence in local affairs. (Albeit at a tragic cost.)

That's heavy material for a rock 'n' roll song, but as he did with "Castro Halloween," Prophet tells the story with a mix of compassion, outrage, and undiluted affection for this city. The Thaddeus Homan-directed clip contains some gorgeous old footage of S.F., too.


niyad

(113,336 posts)
6. thank you for the reminder. when I first heard the news that awful day, I immediately thought that
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 09:15 PM
Nov 2013

it had something to do with jonestown, which had happened on the 18th.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
7. I thought the movie with Sean Penn was very good.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

I think they took a bit of liberty with Milk's murder but it was symbolic anyway as it was presented. In the movie, he's looking out a window of city hall at the opera house, when he was shot, and had mentioned earlier in the movie hearing Bidu Sayao, a Brazilian soprano, there. That was symbolic and also probably not as graphic and gross as the reality.

I've read the book The Mayor of Castro Street, about Harvey Milk.

I remember seeing the news footage on TV where Dianne Feinstein announced the murders to the nation. They used that footage in the movie.

I also saw the opera "Milk" at Houston Grand Opera. It was also quite good.

At the end of the movie, they repeat Harvey's words about politics: "You've got to give them hope."


Lex

(34,108 posts)
9. One of the finest documentaries I've ever seen "The Times of Harvey Milk."
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:06 PM
Nov 2013

If anyone here hasn't yet seen it, you should. Really. It won the Oscar for Best Documentary the year it premiered. Recently it was deemed "culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant" by the US Library of Congress and selected for preservation in the National Film Registry.

calimary

(81,312 posts)
12. Oh man... that long ago...
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:23 PM
Nov 2013

MAN. That night catapulted Dianne Feinstein onto the national stage because of how controlled and poised and strong and steady she was as a San Francisco Supervisor, I believe, when she announced to the press that Moscone and Milk had been shot. After running the City for awhile, the Senate beckoned.

Damn. That was such a shocking night. The news she bore was soooooo bad, so horrifying. And it led us into a whole new world of the dreaded "Twinkie Defense."

What a curse that was! Really, we have yet to live it down.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
14. How could I be this ignorant?
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:43 PM
Nov 2013

This happened on my birthday and I didn't realize it? Now I will forever have a horrible thing to contemplate when this day rolls around each year.

And no...this is not an attempt to garner birthday wishes. Seriously, I'm old enough not to care any more, so please don't.

I am just appalled that I didn't know the actual day this happened. How can you forget tragic things that happen on your birthday? And I was living in Redwood City at the time. To my shame, I was not politically or socially active in those days...unfortunately I did not get involved until 9/11. But I did see the movie with Sean Penn and thought it was so heartbreaking and a wonderful portrayal in "Milk". Such a sad and devastating event.

It seems our progress in this nation is always pushed forward by tragedy that never should have happened. Why do good things have to be the result of bad things? Can't we just learn how to be better without death and violence?

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
21. Everyones birthday has some horrible event associated with it.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:30 PM
Nov 2013

Mine is the 9th. The anniversary of Krystalnacht and the pogrom against German Jews. I also have the fall of the Berlin wall. Could look it up on wikipedia, did that once before just for fun. Good, bad, it's just another day!

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
18. The last few decades of California politics could've been so different if Moscone and Milk
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 12:57 AM
Nov 2013

hadn't been assassinated. Imagine Milk becoming mayor of S.F., then a Senator, instead of Feinstein...

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
20. Harvey Milk
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:25 PM
Nov 2013

Out of the closet early so he was a pioneer. It's so sad and pointless that he was murdered.

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