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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas the total net effect of i-tech (internet, etc.) been unifying or dis-unifying?
Put other ways, to give a better sense of the discussion topic...
Has the net effect been to increase or decrease trust? Understanding? Faith in people in general? Increased or decreased sense of commonality? Etc..
When i-tech "brings people together" in common interest, is that process also describable as splintering people into narrow zones of common interest?
I-tech makes many things clearer and more accessible, but on balance has it done more to highlight differences or commonalities?
Living on your phone (as many do) allows continual low-grade contact with a self-selected group of global entities while diminishing real-world contact with local entities. (Have you seen groups of friends out in public all messing with their phones rather than talking to each other? It's commonplace in my world.) What is the net effect of that?
Of course the internet, et al, has spawned dramatic instances on both ends of these spectra. The question is the overall net effect.
The question was suggested looking at a poll showing lower levels of trust in other people, categorically, than ever before measured... which starts on thinking about the self-segregation effects of total mobility. In communication terms, we can live in any community of our choosing. Does that more splinter or unite?
Your thoughts?
rug
(82,333 posts)rucky
(35,211 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)I don't think its good or bad (aside from its obvious carbon footprint). It all comes down to who is using it, and I'd suggest we humans just aren't ready to use it in the most optimal ways and avoid the wasteful, divisive ways. We probably never will be. But with its waste, we perceive limiting it as being a worse evil.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. it's just a tool.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)of the internet.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)People "friend" and "unfriend" each other easily, "join" and "unjoin" groups on a whim. There is no real contribution to the relationship and thus they are cheapened.
Imagine being trapped on a desert island with someone, and you have to depend on each other to survive. Now imagine he's an asshole. You'd have to actually work at that relationship, and in the end it would mean something.
shraby
(21,946 posts)didn't learn, case in point how other countries have universal health care for their citizens which works very well and we don't. We've been told forever that it doesn't work cause no one can get in to see a doctor without a long wait...months even.
We also learn how other countries live because we can and do communicate with each other now with ease.
We can easily share what we've learned, or want to help others with, like genealogy or whatever we think we can teach others.
We can see things we never dreamed of seeing. We don't have to wait until maybe..just maybe.. it will be on the television machine, we can see them because someone posted a video. We can not only see things, but re-see them as many times as we want.
Some things beautiful beyond descriptions that only pictures can describe, and also some things horrid and we can see they need fixed.
On the whole, I think the internet is the best thing since sliced bread.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)The first world has been in reactionary mode since 1975-1985. Hardly an advertisement for the liberalizing effects of mass communication in the first world. In the third world that story may not be the same. One size not fitting all, etc..
I get that people WANT to think i-tech is helpful because they like i-tech... but as an engine of social progress (in the first world)?
Where? How?
shraby
(21,946 posts)Learning how other people live, up front and personal...and the internet is as close as most of us will get to that experience. Communication between people of different cultures, backgrounds, economic status, etc. always serves to teach what does and what does not work for the improvement of people's lives.
Today we have communication beyond what anyone ever dreamed possible even 30 years ago. A lot of it will be wasted on trivial pursuits, but a good share of it will make a difference in personal lives and social progress in general. Not everything comes by leaps and bounds, but by putting one step in front of the other.