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malaise

(269,028 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:04 AM Dec 2013

Lay off Michelle Obama: Why white feminists need to lean back

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/29/lay_off_michelle_obama_why_white_feminists_need_to_lean_back/
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In a column at Politico last week entitled “Leaning Out: How Michelle Obama Became a Feminist Nightmare,” Michelle Cottle cast First Lady Obama as a feminist failure, declaring that though “somebody will shatter the conventional first lady mold,” it “won’t be Michelle Obama.”

My message to white feminists is simple: Lean back. Way back. And take your paws off Michelle Obama. Black women have never been the model for mainstream American womanhood, and to act as though she takes something away from the (white) feminist movement is intellectually disingenuous and historically dishonest. Your molds were never designed to contain the likes of a Michelle Obama in the first place. And feminism’s biggest nightmare isn’t Michelle Obama; it is white feminists’ consistent inability to not be racist.

Though Cottle fully acknowledges that the intersection of race and gender “puts Michelle in a treacherous spot,” she co-signs the assessment of Linda Hirschman, who argues that the FLOTUS, in terms of gender, has largely relied on “an almost music-hall-level imitation of a warm-and-fuzzy, unthreatening, bucolic female from some imaginary era from the past.”

There are many problems with this assessment. Neither Cottle nor Hirschman manages to make her assessment of Michelle Obama’s gender politics or performance while holding race constant. But it is race that shapes black women’s access to narratives of womanhood, and the protection that comes with femininity. In other words, black women were never viewed as “unthreatening and bucolic.” (Let us not forget the routine dustups that emerge whenever the first lady shows her arms or her legs in public.) That narrative has been the sole and privileged access of heterosexual, middle-class white women. And white women do not want to acknowledge that this narrative has given them a particular kind of white female privilege — such narratives about delicate and unthreatening white femininity drove the creation of the black male rapist myth and necessitated the labor of black women domestics to maintain white women’s unsullied delicacy and virtue.

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Lay off Michelle Obama: Why white feminists need to lean back (Original Post) malaise Dec 2013 OP
They've missed the point Warpy Dec 2013 #1
"fire breathing feminist"? fuck that sick meme. cali Dec 2013 #2
+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #5
She can't win malaise Dec 2013 #18
she is awesome. She lives her life with choices she makes tempered around her unique situation. roguevalley Dec 2013 #29
I think a feminist is more than just a person who chooses her life malaise Dec 2013 #30
No First Lady can win Warpy Dec 2013 #35
Michelle Obama is not a feminist nightmare but she is a feminist failure as have been Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #3
Michelle Obama is a feminist failure? Why am I not surprised you think this way? nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #34
Just curious, but what would a feminist success FLOTUS look like? WowSeriously Dec 2013 #4
I'd love to know as well malaise Dec 2013 #9
uh oh, more outrage has ensued... giftedgirl77 Dec 2013 #26
"White feminists" blah blah "unthreatening" blah blah blah... last1standing Dec 2013 #6
Pretty much malaise Dec 2013 #13
I think she should go natural... last1standing Dec 2013 #24
Great post. Should be its own Salon article. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #14
Agree n/t malaise Dec 2013 #17
Thanks, but my lousy proof-reading skills will ensure I'm never a writer. last1standing Dec 2013 #25
That's what editors and proof readers are for.. Fumesucker Dec 2013 #31
Nicely put. Stevepol Dec 2013 #15
last1standing, I commend you for your excellent post. Way better than I would've been able to write NBachers Dec 2013 #19
Michelle Obama is acting as a Feminist by doing what works for her and her family. enough Dec 2013 #7
and that would be another stupid myth about feminism. thanks for adding that. cali Dec 2013 #8
I'm a white feminist and I haven't heard all this supposed criticism of Michelle Obama. (nt) Nine Dec 2013 #10
don't you know that all white feminists are alike? tsk, tsk. cali Dec 2013 #11
Note to the writer (and OP): Michelle Cottle is not the model for white feminists. She is an idiot. Mass Dec 2013 #12
Sure malaise Dec 2013 #16
Did you catch MHP on the topic of this column? Skidmore Dec 2013 #20
Thanks - I missed that malaise Dec 2013 #28
Delish, Skidmore.. thank you! from your link.. Cha Dec 2013 #37
I'd never heard Michelle Obama described as a feminist nightmare gollygee Dec 2013 #21
Excellent commentary from *She the People* in WaPo this morning: Raine1967 Dec 2013 #22
Good read malaise Dec 2013 #39
It is anti-feminist for women to command other women how they should act. CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #23
+1 liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #32
2016 Obama - Biden Reformed Bully Dec 2013 #27
Michelle is Michelle, and anyone who wants to make her any different Arkana Dec 2013 #33
To make that claim athena Dec 2013 #36
Historical context loyalsister Dec 2013 #38

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
1. They've missed the point
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:12 AM
Dec 2013

Portraying her role as a typical housewife and mother has done more to mainstream black women than anything but commercials. While it might not seem "correctly" feminist much of the time, her role has been very powerful in this respect. She has known exactly where the line is and how to walk it. I think she's an absolute master of PR. I am in awe of her ability to hold it together.

Had she been a fire breathing feminist, she'd have turned off a lot of women that she has reached, instead.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
29. she is awesome. She lives her life with choices she makes tempered around her unique situation.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 02:59 PM
Dec 2013

Personally, a feminist is a person who chooses their life. Period. No woman out there should live their life for anyone else unless they choose it. She is a miracle of dignity in a shit world.

malaise

(269,028 posts)
30. I think a feminist is more than just a person who chooses her life
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 03:04 PM
Dec 2013

but I agree with you re Michelle Obama.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
35. No First Lady can win
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 03:41 PM
Dec 2013

She's always savaged by the opposing party and sometimes by people in their own party. She's the lightning rod for all criticism and shaming pushed at all women. She gets it the worst.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
3. Michelle Obama is not a feminist nightmare but she is a feminist failure as have been
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:16 AM
Dec 2013

all first ladies since Eleanor Roosevelt.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
6. "White feminists" blah blah "unthreatening" blah blah blah...
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:49 AM
Dec 2013

Sorry, but this article reads like solution desperately seeking a problem.

I think it's about time for everyone "[l]ean back. Way back," and try to remember what feminism is supposed to be about. Feminism is the philosophy that women are equal participants in life and therefore should have the opportunities for self-fulfillment as men. Are people upset that Michelle Obama has chosen to look after her children after engaging in a successful career? Are they upset that she dedicates her life to helping the President of the United States achieve an agenda they both likely share?

In my view, Michelle Obama is very much a feminist, or at least is a living model for what feminists can achieve. She has educated herself and worked on par with men on an equal footing. She is raising children. She runs the East Wing of the White House. She advises the President. She has set her own goals, sometimes in conjunction with her husband, and has succeeded in each of them.

What more could any feminist demand?

As for inserting race into the equation, Brittney Cooper's article manages to be just as stereotypical as the arguments she tries to battle. All black women do not see themselves the same. Some black women see themselves first as black while some see themselves first as women. Then there are some black women who could not compartmentalize the two categories and see both as historically repressed minorities who have had to struggle for equality in a white man's world. There are even some black women who think all of this is load of crap and set their own course in life irrespective of what anyone else thinks.

I see Michelle Obama as an empowered woman who has made good decisions in her own life and is now raising two young women who will be equipped to do the same. No, she isn't holding daily rallies to condemn racism and sexism. No, she's not writing articles that lambast a white, male-centric worldview. Instead, she's setting a daily example of black/feminist self-fulfillment.

After all, true equality isn't about which choices one makes; it is about having the ability to freely choose for oneself.

malaise

(269,028 posts)
13. Pretty much
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:51 AM
Dec 2013

Still, I'd like to hear what she should have done that she hasn't done.
The only thing she hasn't done for me is wear her natural hair.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
24. I think she should go natural...
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:40 AM
Dec 2013

Not as a statement, but because I think it would frame her face very nicely. However, if that's the biggest complaint that either of us has, she'd doing something right.

Anyone who knows my opinions here at DU knows I'm not President Obama's greatest supporter. On the other hand, I despise petty, shallow, and misleading attacks based on nothing but an agenda and a gullible audience to soak it up. I believe this article falls in that mode. If there's one thing that President Obama has absolutely done right, it's to marry an incredible woman who has managed to stand strong in the face of withering personal attacks. It says a lot about him that he wasn't afraid to marry a woman who could challenge him on an intellectual level.

NBachers

(17,119 posts)
19. last1standing, I commend you for your excellent post. Way better than I would've been able to write
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:04 AM
Dec 2013

I am glad you wrote it, and I agree with the ideas you have presented.

enough

(13,259 posts)
7. Michelle Obama is acting as a Feminist by doing what works for her and her family.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:34 AM
Dec 2013

I have never understood why so much of the discussion of feminism takes the form of women telling other women how they should behave and what they should do that they are not doing. To my mind, the underlying tenet of feminism is that women can chose what they want to do and how they want to live.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. and that would be another stupid myth about feminism. thanks for adding that.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:42 AM
Dec 2013

so much of the discussion of feminism does NOT take the form of women telling other women how they should behave.

but appreciate your demonstration of the ignorance around feminism.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
12. Note to the writer (and OP): Michelle Cottle is not the model for white feminists. She is an idiot.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:46 AM
Dec 2013

Can we establish that?

Cha

(297,275 posts)
37. Delish, Skidmore.. thank you! from your link..
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:49 AM
Dec 2013

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The internet — including the feminist media — responded with a resounding "Shut up, Michelle Cottle," but no argument has been quite as complete and succinct as the one delivered by true feminist hero Melissa Harris-Perry during the "Open Letters" segment of her MSNBC show this Sunday.

"Dear Michelle Cottle, are you serious?" Began the incredulous Harris-Perry. "You and your handful of 'feminist sources' claim that First Lady Obama is not a feminist because she says her most important job is being mom-in-chief to her two daughters...Given how simplistic your piece is, let me make this very simple: you are wrong."


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"She is saying that her daughters — her vulnerable, brilliant, beautiful black daughters — are the most important thing to her."

What a mess Michelle Cottle made for herself.

Thanks for the OP, malaise

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
21. I'd never heard Michelle Obama described as a feminist nightmare
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:27 AM
Dec 2013

But I'm a stay-at-home-mom to two daughters so maybe I am a feminist nightmare as well. (a bit of light sarcasm in case that isn't clear. )

As far as "leaning in" and "leaning back," I think it's a good idea for those of the privileged group (whatever that is in any given case) to "lean back" more in most circumstances and most discussions.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
22. Excellent commentary from *She the People* in WaPo this morning:
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:40 AM
Dec 2013
First in family values? How a White House image could change perceptions
(...)

But the holiday season, when family relationships, good and bad, move to the forefront, might be just the time to consider how the image of the Obamas in the White House — mother, father, two daughters, grandmother — has affected ideas about the American family in general, and the African American family in particular.

In this case, the personal is political because in America, the very idea of the strong black family is revolutionary in the popular imagination, if not reality.

(...)

Yet this most “traditional” picture of family gets little credit from those who most loudly espouse that vision as ideal as well as some of those thought more friendly to the current White House occupants.

Years ago, I wrote a column taking some white feminists to task for not coming to the aid of an embattled Michelle Obama, and it was depressing to see the same back and forth surface after a recent Politico article called the first lady “a feminist nightmare” for choosing causes and a family-first priority not deemed worthy of her time and education. The author was criticized for both narrowly defining feminism and casually dismissing work on behalf of childhood nutrition and encouraging educational goals. A chorus of columns reminded those without a sense of history that a black woman being able to choose to raise her children might be a dream rather than nightmare. The first lady’s parents sacrificed so that her mother could do the same.

In an interview in 2008, Michelle Obama told me, “Sometimes I do believe that people don’t believe I exist.” She could have broadened the sentiment to her whole family.
Complete article here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2013/12/02/first-in-family-values-how-a-white-house-image-could-change-perceptions/?wprss=rss_she-the-people&clsrd


 

CorrectOfCenter

(101 posts)
23. It is anti-feminist for women to command other women how they should act.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:53 AM
Dec 2013

There's always some ideological group attacking people in power for whatever reason.

Learn that everyone has a different looking glass than you and lighten the fuck up.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
33. Michelle is Michelle, and anyone who wants to make her any different
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 03:17 PM
Dec 2013

shows an astounding lack of understanding of what feminism is.

Michelle Obama has chosen to chart her own course as first lady, and she's made it work for her. Why do these so-called "feminists" have a problem with that?

athena

(4,187 posts)
36. To make that claim
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:20 AM
Dec 2013

To claim that Michelle Obama is anything resembling a feminist nightmare, one would have to be under the delusional impression that racism is dead. Who remembers the cartoons depicting her as a terrorist during the 2008 campaign? Who has forgotten the claim that she was an angry hippie, unsuited to the position of first lady? By being a perfect example of the traditional, elegant, soft-spoken first lady, Michelle Obama is doing more to fight racist stereotypes than she could ever hope to achieve fighting sexist stereotypes according to the second-wave white feminist model. We must all choose our battles.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
38. Historical context
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 06:21 AM
Dec 2013

For many many years African American women raised the children of white families. Much of what white women claimed as liberation was nothing new to women who had to work outside the home due to economic pressures.

Once daycare emerged as a solution for white working women, many African American women were thrilled to be able to be parents exclusively to their own children.

Race is a factor and I agree that too many white women are reluctant to consider that reality.

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