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madmom

(9,681 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:24 PM Dec 2013

So idiot cousin just posted this on facebook, anyone know what's behind this?...

http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/obama-gun-restrictions-continue-with-bullet-lead-factory-shutdown.html

.."The Obama administration is continuing its attack on the second amendment by imposing severe restrictions on bullet lead. The Environmental Protection Agency has forced the Doe Run Lead Smelter, located in Heculaneum, Mo., to permanently shut down its doors. The agency had been trying to get the smelter, which produces lead used in bullets, to close down its doors since 2008. The smelter had been operating since 1892, but the factory will shut down at the end of this month and make it more difficult for Americans to purchase bullets for guns."
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So idiot cousin just posted this on facebook, anyone know what's behind this?... (Original Post) madmom Dec 2013 OP
Sounds like efforts to close this place started before Obama took office. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #1
Allen West and NRA are behind this 'story' CurtEastPoint Dec 2013 #2
Blaming Obama for something that began in 2008. arcane1 Dec 2013 #3
Fear, ignorance and a Facebook account. Ron Green Dec 2013 #4
Firstly I would question any site called the reagan coalition and below I've copy and pasted a few monmouth3 Dec 2013 #5
Yea, I saw it today too, its more right wing "creative writing". phleshdef Dec 2013 #6
yep G_j Dec 2013 #12
Lead poisoning. I think that's behind your cousin's idiocy. Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #7
Probably part of the push for non-lead bullets. silverweb Dec 2013 #8
Sigh... Well, here's the real deal with LEAD in the environment Hekate Dec 2013 #9
Tell your idiot cousin he is a fuckin asshole and to try using google...it took me 5 seconds to Drew Richards Dec 2013 #10
2008? Turbineguy Dec 2013 #11
lol starting in 2008 treestar Dec 2013 #13
this was in the works long mercuryblues Dec 2013 #14
The Doe Run Lead Smelter does not supply lead to ammunition suppliers. Lochloosa Dec 2013 #15
Plop this pic on your own FaceBook page... countryjake Dec 2013 #16
I grew up in that neck of the woods, sex/drugs and rock and roll right by the river there snooper2 Dec 2013 #17
Breightbart is behind that. PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #18
As everyone else said, it's pure bullshit. CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #19
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. Blaming Obama for something that began in 2008.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:29 PM
Dec 2013


I don't know if the story is true or not, but that part jumped out at me.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
5. Firstly I would question any site called the reagan coalition and below I've copy and pasted a few
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:31 PM
Dec 2013

of their other offerings:

Trayvon Footage From Tragic Night the Media Hid From You
Michelle Obama Says WH Concerts Are For the ‘Rich’ and ‘Fancy’
More Michelle Obama Disdain
NAVY SEAL Speaks Out: Forcibly Incarcerated After Criticizing Obama
Obama Screws Up ‘Jesus’ Comment, Video Goes Viral

G_j

(40,367 posts)
12. yep
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:42 PM
Dec 2013

from the first link:

The EPA first went after the Doe Run Co. and its smelting operation in 2008. President Obama took office in 2009. If enforcement of environmental safeguards was used to secretly undermine access to ammunition, the plot was launched by the notorious gun-grabbers in the Bush/Cheney administration.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
8. Probably part of the push for non-lead bullets.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:32 PM
Dec 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Lead is highly toxic to animals (including humans) and to the environment. Here in California, lead has been banned in certain types of hunting ammunition for that reason. Bullets can be made of other, less-toxic substances.

If the EPA is shutting down lead smelters, it's because lead is toxic, and that's a good thing.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
9. Sigh... Well, here's the real deal with LEAD in the environment
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:38 PM
Dec 2013

Animals who were never shot themselves end up ingesting it and they sicken and die. Some of them, like the California condor, are at the brink of extinction. Others are not, but they still sicken and die.

Lead bullets are a holdover from the flintlock era, when a gun owner needed to make his own bullets and keep the powder in his powder horn dry. It's easy to melt lead down in a campfire or fireplace (try not to inhale the lead fumes) and you can re-use the bullets.

We don't use flintlocks anymore, and there are alternatives to lead that are not so dangerous to the environment.

Lead is poisonous. So is the NRA.

Drew Richards

(1,558 posts)
10. Tell your idiot cousin he is a fuckin asshole and to try using google...it took me 5 seconds to
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:41 PM
Dec 2013

find out what is going on...

Oh and its old news too...from 2010...

They are a major polluter that has had a free hand pretending to monitor itself and failing poorly...

People are sick and dying from lead toxicity in the AIR WATER and SOIL...

They have been screwing with the EPA and been on the EPA's Radar since 2000...way before President Obama.

http://www.epa.gov/region7/cleanup/superfund/superfund_herculaneum_lead_smelter_mo.htm

NOW from his own radical source trying to blame Obama the first paragraph explains WHY they are actually shutting down...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16881-epa-closure-of-last-lead-smelting-plant-to-impact-ammunition-production

"The job cuts were expected. The plant, which has operated for more than a century and is the lone remaining lea"d smelter in the United States, announced in 2010 that it will cease operations at the end of this year.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said the company “made a business decision” to shut down the smelter instead of installing pollution control technologies needed to reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions as required by the Clean Air Act."


Drew...

Lochloosa

(16,065 posts)
15. The Doe Run Lead Smelter does not supply lead to ammunition suppliers.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013

This smelter processed raw lead. All ammunition suppliers use recycled lead in bullets.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. I grew up in that neck of the woods, sex/drugs and rock and roll right by the river there
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:07 PM
Dec 2013

LOL...

Ah back in the day...

Okay, back in the 90's



I'll have to say though, my pee never did glow in the dark. Although if you catch a catfish out of the Mississippi it just might

 

CorrectOfCenter

(101 posts)
19. As everyone else said, it's pure bullshit.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

Too bad.

Regulations making it harder to make guns and ammo would be a nice workaround to the NRAssholes in Congress.

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