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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:35 PM Dec 2013

Private Prison Company Allegedly Put 73-Year-Old Grandmother In Solitary Confinement For 34 Days

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/12/02/3008961/private-prison-grandmother/

Carol Lester, a 73-year-old grandmother serving time in New Mexico Women’s Correctional Facility in Grants, is suing Corrections Corporation of America, one of the largest private prison companies in the world, and Corizon, Inc, a private prison health care company, for denying her medical care and keeping her in solitary confinement for over a month.

Lester’s lawsuit, filed in late November, charges that the warden deliberately put her in solitary confinement because she complained to lawmakers and Department of Corrections officials that she and other women were being denied medical care.

Lester plead guilty to embezzling money from her employer to feed a gambling addiction in 2010. Soon after beginning her three-year sentence, the lawsuit charges that the privately run prison stopped giving her the prescribed medication she had been taking for thyroid cancer and gave her a new medication that made her sick. Lester started fainting on a regular basis, and medical staff told her she may have a serious heart condition. However, they did not send her to a specialist or a hospital, and her health deteriorated rapidly.

According to the complaint, she took up a letter writing campaign with fellow inmates who were also being denied medical care. Her letters prompted a delegation of state legislators and the head of health services for the Department of Corrections to visit the prison to talk with inmates about their concerns.
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Private Prison Company Allegedly Put 73-Year-Old Grandmother In Solitary Confinement For 34 Days (Original Post) eridani Dec 2013 OP
All private prisons should be shut down. No one should be profiting from this. They are writing our sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #1
What you said libodem Dec 2013 #2
I'll see your shut 'em down and raise you some treatment for the execs... Systematic Chaos Dec 2013 #3
i positively loathe "reality" teevee.. frylock Dec 2013 #20
Only a psychotic, depraved sick fuck would dare profit from this bullshit Blue Owl Dec 2013 #4
Yes, this story, among so many others, putting a woman in solitary confinement because she tried to sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #7
Well said sabrina. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #5
Thank you, sabrina. For-profit prisons should never, ever have been allowed. nt Hekate Dec 2013 #10
+1 and she wasn't sentenced to death for her crime. Yet they're trying to kill her. n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #45
+1000000000000^10 Initech Dec 2013 #21
Agreed RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #33
I could not agree more! FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #34
+ Infinity with a cherry on top, there is no moral or logical reason for the Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #35
+1. Privatization on steroids. As brutal as the rest of the Commons being stolen. n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #46
Make this an OP, sabrina. LAGC Dec 2013 #37
I hope so too. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #44
+1,000 malaise Dec 2013 #48
+1 gollygee Dec 2013 #51
+ A shit load! nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #54
Nobody can explain to me how it's cheaper to hire a company than it is to do it yourself. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #62
Agree. We the people should be responsible for those our Cleita Dec 2013 #63
Her Grandmother status has nothing to do with this case maxsolomon Dec 2013 #6
Which has what, exactly, to do with this story or the issue it raises? n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #9
It's sensationalistic maxsolomon Dec 2013 #16
Yeah, because downplaying your hand in the media is always the winning strategy. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #28
maybe max owns CCA stock. nt grasswire Dec 2013 #39
That's an unfair ad hominem Orrex Dec 2013 #55
Denying her medical care was not part of the sentence. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #57
30 year old ax murderer abused while in prison SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2013 #11
Torture of anyone and all MUST be prohibited - truedelphi Dec 2013 #14
Even the guilty... SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2013 #38
yes that is true. Jailing a convicted person was supposed to truedelphi Dec 2013 #47
That is so true dbackjon Dec 2013 #43
Terrific point. Orrex Dec 2013 #56
She committed a non-violent crime and the for-profit system condemned her to illness and death Hekate Dec 2013 #13
What does that have to do with the topic of the OP? She pled guilty to a crime, does that sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #17
Did I fucking say that? maxsolomon Dec 2013 #18
Well if she really is a grandmother, I don't the problem with providing that information. It makes sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #29
well said, thanks! nt Tumbulu Dec 2013 #36
Wonderful response, Sabrina..........nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #59
News reports always do that. RebelOne Dec 2013 #41
I think the idea here gollygee Dec 2013 #52
Probably true, but it cuts both ways Orrex Dec 2013 #58
I imagine also that many will make no mention of the actual substance of her complaints LanternWaste Dec 2013 #61
I appreciate her taking a stand against the pro-profit prisons. nt Ilsa Dec 2013 #8
I'll never understand the concept of "private prisons" KansDem Dec 2013 #12
which is the case today Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #27
Yeah, but once you're there, it's the corporation that holds you against you will KansDem Dec 2013 #30
there isn't any which is also the case Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #32
this is some coldhearted shit heaven05 Dec 2013 #15
The kicker is they probably get a larger per diem for keeping her in the hole. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #19
I wondered about that too. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #23
Misogyny run rampant. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #22
Leave it to a great Los Angeles heavy metal band to tell the truth about private prisons: Initech Dec 2013 #24
Nothing seems to change...have you seen the movie Chatahoochee? HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #25
Shut down all private prisons, but leave one open... CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #26
A lot of them do need to be investigated and many most likely do belong in jail. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #31
I thought the same thing. She just didn't embezzle enough........nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #60
Would it have been less horrific if the 73 year old woman had no children? nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #40
What we've got here is failure to communicate. lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #42
wow. this is the right and ethical way to get somethi g done BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #49
Jesus, save us from these monsters................nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #50
We need to recognize that this is only the beginning of the atrocities. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #53

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. All private prisons should be shut down. No one should be profiting from this. They are writing our
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:41 PM
Dec 2013

laws, committing horrendous human rights violations, and if we actually lived in a country where such things as human rights mattered, handing over the prison system to a bunch of profiteers who have created a new slavery, would never have happened in the first place.

I hope she take every penny in profit they ever made and that it shuts them down permanently.

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
3. I'll see your shut 'em down and raise you some treatment for the execs...
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:56 PM
Dec 2013

...which would make some truly captivating 24/7 television.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. Yes, this story, among so many others, putting a woman in solitary confinement because she tried to
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:15 PM
Dec 2013

stop them from committing what is a crime, denying people medicine they need to remain alive, demonstrates just how psychotic and sick these morons who themselves belong out of society imho, really are.

I'm sickened by what is going on in this country that claims to be so righteous, so 'free'.

Thanks for your comment, you said it succinctly.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
34. I could not agree more!
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:37 PM
Dec 2013

Even a few years ago I would not have believed that my nation would stoop to this.

Uncle Joe

(58,363 posts)
35. + Infinity with a cherry on top, there is no moral or logical reason for the
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:44 PM
Dec 2013

for profit prison industry to exist.

They can only serve to corrupt government turning it into a autocratic, fascist regime in alienation against the people.

The very concept of for profit prisons is anathema to any society claiming to revere freedom and democracy.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
63. Agree. We the people should be responsible for those our
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 03:55 PM
Dec 2013

courts incarcerate. These two institutions are entwined in each other. What's next? Privatizing our justice system? I hope not.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
6. Her Grandmother status has nothing to do with this case
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:14 PM
Dec 2013

But calling her a 73-year old Embezzler doesn't generate as much outrage I suppose.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. It's sensationalistic
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:55 PM
Dec 2013

I object on principle to emotional manipulation, as I do to for-profit prisons.

73-year old woman would have sufficed.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
28. Yeah, because downplaying your hand in the media is always the winning strategy.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013

I have no idea what point you're trying to make with this. Here is another in a seemingly infinite list of outrageous abuses that seeks some relief through media exposure, and you want to complain that "It's sensationalistic"? What country do you live in?

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
55. That's an unfair ad hominem
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:48 AM
Dec 2013

The point can be addressed without accusing the poster of exploiting the story for personal gain.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
57. Denying her medical care was not part of the sentence.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:49 AM
Dec 2013

I hope we haven't reached that level yet. But it's not far off.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
11. 30 year old ax murderer abused while in prison
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:43 PM
Dec 2013

Lets all cheer.

Are we civilized or are we not civilized?

We should stop all abuse that occurs in prison.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
14. Torture of anyone and all MUST be prohibited -
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:54 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:05 PM - Edit history (1)

especially given with how the over zealous DA's around the country are willing to throw the Ryan Ferguson's in jail, to rot forever, while untested DNA found at the crime scene also rots and molders in a vault somewhere.

Luckily young Ryan was recently released, but only because his father spent ten years advocating and was able to find a determined defense attorney to work the case correctly.

But there are a hell of a lot of other innocents, of all ages, behind bars for no real reason other than local authorities needed a conviction.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
47. yes that is true. Jailing a convicted person was supposed to
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:08 PM
Dec 2013

Provide rehabilitation. However, the disgusting and dangerous life style that encloses people once they are jailed makes it difficult for anyone to have anything but PTSD as a result of their experience.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
43. That is so true
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:36 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-dproscetti-special,0,2956003.special


This case hit so close to home - she was a high school classmate.


The rush to find suspects led to four innocents to be imprisoned, and the family more pain and grief than had it been investigated properly in the first place.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/chi-020210roscetti,0,4725558.story

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
13. She committed a non-violent crime and the for-profit system condemned her to illness and death
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:44 PM
Dec 2013

Not receiving the right cancer medication? Solitary? Really?

Do you remember what you were doing when you first heard about the for-profit prisons being built? What crossed your mind? Or did it escape your notice that private facilities by their nature have no public oversight? Or what? The scandals have been trickling out for years.

I know what crossed my mind -- a very appalled "What could possibly go wrong with this notion?"

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. What does that have to do with the topic of the OP? She pled guilty to a crime, does that
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:57 PM
Dec 2013

mean she should be subjected to torture, and/or a denial of medication that could cost her, and the other inmates their lives?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
18. Did I fucking say that?
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:58 PM
Dec 2013

Of course she shouldn't. As I said above, calling her a 73-year old WOMAN would suffice.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. Well if she really is a grandmother, I don't the problem with providing that information. It makes
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:15 PM
Dec 2013

her treatment more than just her problem, it means there are children who probably love her and whose own lives are likely to be adversely affected if they learn that someone they love has been treated this way, as if she were sub-human. When rights are denied to one person, it often doesn't just affect that one person, it affects those in their immediate families, their friends, and then society as a whole.

It doesn't matter, whether she is a grandmother or not, or an ax murderer or a thief, but it adds context to the story and if it brings home the horror of these prisons by allowing people to relate to her in a human way, sometimes people need to know that just because someone committed one crime, doesn't mean we should not care about them, if it humanizes them, then it is a good way to get more attention and empathy for a story that badly needs attention.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
41. News reports always do that.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:21 PM
Dec 2013

The 25-year-old mother, the 30-year-old father, the 80-year-great-grandmother, and so on.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
52. I think the idea here
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:41 AM
Dec 2013

is that people are often put in solitary because they're a danger to other inmates, but that is less likely with someone that old.

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
58. Probably true, but it cuts both ways
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:50 AM
Dec 2013

If she had instead gone on a killing spree, the media would certainly describe her as a 73-year-old grandmother.


It's sensationalistic, but it's the nature of the beast.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
61. I imagine also that many will make no mention of the actual substance of her complaints
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:17 PM
Dec 2013

"doesn't generate as much outrage I suppose..."

I imagine also that many will make no mention of the actual substance of her complaints and rather focus on the irrelevant to better validate their own petulant outrage as well...

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
12. I'll never understand the concept of "private prisons"
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:44 PM
Dec 2013

Only the state can take away your inalienable rights if you break it's laws and hold you against your will. Incarcerating a offender in a "private prison" flies in the face of a government "of, for, and by" the people. It gives corporatists the "right" to hold you against your will.

If I ever break the law and get sent to prison, I want it to be because my crime was against "the people" and not "the investors."

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
27. which is the case today
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:08 PM
Dec 2013

I hate private prisons but in reality the government still has control over who gets there.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
30. Yeah, but once you're there, it's the corporation that holds you against you will
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:15 PM
Dec 2013

I suppose it's the image of being held by private enterprise.

Besides, isn't the OP about a woman who was thrown into isolation by the corporation and given nauseating meds by the corporation?

Where's the accountability?

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
32. there isn't any which is also the case
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:20 PM
Dec 2013

in all prisons private or public run..it is a universal issue. ..California, a very blue state abuses prisoners, too. and the Democratic governor is fighting the fixes.

its a no win situation

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. this is some coldhearted shit
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:54 PM
Dec 2013

america what happened? Oh never mind, mr. greed is good reagan, bush sr, jr happened.geez 73 years old in solitary for asking for medical care. The more I think about this, the angrier I get.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
25. Nothing seems to change...have you seen the movie Chatahoochee?
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:03 PM
Dec 2013

Based on a true story from the 1950's...southern mental health facility used to warehouse criminals from overflowing prisons among the patients. Complete failure to treat, punishing abuses that even killed detainees.

Fought by a letter writing campaign from the inside documenting all the abuse. Ultimately gained attention of a state senator who initiated investigations that put an end to it in that place at that time.



 

CorrectOfCenter

(101 posts)
26. Shut down all private prisons, but leave one open...
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dec 2013

For all the politicians, judges and corporate executives that have profited from these monstrosities.

And hand over control to former inmates that were abused.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. A lot of them do need to be investigated and many most likely do belong in jail.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:19 PM
Dec 2013

But money talks, as we see with our very own War Criminals, and Wall St. Criminals. Too bad that woman didn't embezzle billions, she would have been living in a mansion. Her real crime was not committing one that made her 'too big to fail'. Jail is for the little people these days. The big criminals get bailed out, by the little people.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
42. What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:28 PM
Dec 2013







"Be a dayum trouble maker ... you spend the night in the box."


I abhor simple minded ignoramuses who let their authority go to their heads.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
49. wow. this is the right and ethical way to get somethi g done
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:10 PM
Dec 2013

But it also requires strength in numbers..... unity to support each other.

Very cool. (Awful what they did to the women there but she did something.)

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
53. We need to recognize that this is only the beginning of the atrocities.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:45 AM
Dec 2013

As Fascism progresses the outrages will grow and the intimidation level will amp up until people are afraid to speak out. The nation has reached a crisis level.

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