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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:37 PM Dec 2013

Netanyahu Gives Pope A Book About Spanish Inquisition

I hope the Pope gave him a lecture about illegal settlements

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/netanyahu-gives-pope-francis-book-about-spanish-inquisition

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu brought Pope Francis a copy of a book about the Spanish Inquisition when the two of them met on Monday, according to the Associated Press.

The book was written by the prime minister's late father, Ben-Zion Netanyahu. Netanyahu also gave the pope a silver menorah.

According to a description on Amazon, the elder Netanyahu's book argued the Inquisition "gave birth to an anti-Semitism based on race that would have terrible consequences for centuries to come."

Netanyahu inscribed the front page of the copy he gave to the pope, "To his Holiness Pope Franciscus, a great shepherd of our common heritage."

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Netanyahu Gives Pope A Book About Spanish Inquisition (Original Post) eridani Dec 2013 OP
Doesn't he think the Pope knows about it? Cleita Dec 2013 #1
I learned about it from Mel Brooks... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #14
Not so much. He made a joke of it. Cleita Dec 2013 #15
Are you seriously telling me the Spanish Inquisition wasn't a broadway musical? Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #16
LOL! n/t Cleita Dec 2013 #17
It's good to be the king DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #22
Did you learn about the inquisitions against the Albigensian and Cathar heresies? JDPriestly Dec 2013 #32
I'm sure I did since heresies and how they were dealt with were Cleita Dec 2013 #34
What a prick LittleBlue Dec 2013 #2
That is an odd choice - particularly in light of Israels stance towards the palestinians. el_bryanto Dec 2013 #3
Cool. Albeit, any Argentine priest knows plenty about the Spanish Inquisition. Coyotl Dec 2013 #4
Tell that to the Nazis, they killed jews regardless of their current religion. Kurska Dec 2013 #13
When did Jewish become a "race"? First off, there are no races of people, just Coyotl Dec 2013 #19
Never missing an opportunity to be an ass. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #5
Good surprise choice. Noooobody expects a book about the Spanish Inquisition. HERVEPA Dec 2013 #6
LOL Blue Owl Dec 2013 #7
awesome Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #8
Aha! Someone got wise to why I posted the OP with that title eridani Dec 2013 #11
beat me to it eShirl Dec 2013 #26
Well, I don't drink coffee, so I guess I have the advantage. :-) HERVEPA Dec 2013 #30
lol really. Cha Dec 2013 #28
the george bush of isreal dembotoz Dec 2013 #9
No, more like the Dick Cheney of Israel, much more evil Cleita Dec 2013 #35
Because the auto-da-fe was like an illegal settlement? WinkyDink Dec 2013 #10
Plenty of Palestinians get burned in air raids n/t eridani Dec 2013 #12
Try reading more on the scope of the Inquisition. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #39
or suicide bombing HERVEPA Dec 2013 #18
But one side is an imperial power and the other is its victim eridani Dec 2013 #24
Yuh. Suicide bombing is like kids kicking the front seat. Exactly. How did I not see that? HERVEPA Dec 2013 #31
It's about having real power vs having no power eridani Dec 2013 #36
One could argue the merits of your one-sided points, but the comparison is still nuts. HERVEPA Dec 2013 #40
Imperialists never have a valid side, period n/t eridani Dec 2013 #42
Actually, Muslims live in peace in Israel proper. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #33
Yes, I know that. Do Jews "live in peace in Saudi Arabia proper"? Or pick your islamic state. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #38
I know a lot of Jews who had to leave Muslim countries like Morocco and Algeria and others although JDPriestly Dec 2013 #41
"he never met Will Rogers I'd be willing to say" - James McMurtry IDemo Dec 2013 #20
A dick move by a well known dick. DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #21
"it's been GREAT for my management technique!" nt MisterP Dec 2013 #23
I'll bet nobody expected that. eShirl Dec 2013 #25
Honestly, I'm not a big fan of Likud OR the RCC. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #27
I am really starting to despise this man. Egnever Dec 2013 #29
books make good gifts Enrique Dec 2013 #37

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. Not so much. He made a joke of it.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:15 PM
Dec 2013

The real Inquisition is where torture techniques were refined that we even use today, water boarding being one of the more infamous ones.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. Are you seriously telling me the Spanish Inquisition wasn't a broadway musical?
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:21 PM
Dec 2013

Well Brooks' re-telling of the French Revolution is *still* verified as 100% factually accurate, right??

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
34. I'm sure I did since heresies and how they were dealt with were
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 12:58 AM
Dec 2013

covered, but this Catholic school girl (fifty years ago) was quite bored about it so I don't remember details. I do remember the Inquisition because I have Spanish ancestry and it caught my attention. A man who studied for the priesthood, especially a Jesuit, would be scholarly about Church history. That's my point.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
2. What a prick
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:43 PM
Dec 2013

Totally inept statesmen. His childish games have always taken precedence over adult diplomacy.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Cool. Albeit, any Argentine priest knows plenty about the Spanish Inquisition.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013

Anti-Semitism is much older than the Inquisition and is based on religion, not race.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
13. Tell that to the Nazis, they killed jews regardless of their current religion.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:09 PM
Dec 2013

It is a very commonly a "race" thing for many people, including the greatest crime against the jewish people in history.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
19. When did Jewish become a "race"? First off, there are no races of people, just
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:24 PM
Dec 2013

the perception of race by uneducated people. Second, what distinguished Jewish people from others if their religious tradition, one which does not exactly encourage marriage to outsiders.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
11. Aha! Someone got wise to why I posted the OP with that title
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:08 PM
Dec 2013

I was afraid I would have to do this myself, but DU never fails!

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
26. beat me to it
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:36 AM
Dec 2013


my thread-scanning, post title skimming skills are severely compromised before I've had my morning caffeine
 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
18. or suicide bombing
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 07:34 PM
Dec 2013

I despise Netanyahu, but the lack of balance of posters on this site is also annoying.
Both sides do sucky things.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
24. But one side is an imperial power and the other is its victim
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:27 AM
Dec 2013

The sucky things the Palestinians do are analogous to kids kicking the front seats of the car because their parents (the ones with all the money and the drivers' licenses) are taking them to Auntie Em's in Kansas instead of to Disneyland. That's dangerous because it's distracting, but other than bawling and yelling and making their parents wish they had chosen Disneyland, what other options do powerless kids have?

Palestinians have no army, navy or air force. They have been stripped of land and water rights, and are utterly powerless to reverse that situation. If you've had everything that makes life mean something taken from you by an imperial power, suicide bombing and high school science project tin can rockets are about the only options you have.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
36. It's about having real power vs having no power
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 05:54 AM
Dec 2013

Israel, with massive military power, practices the imperial terrorism of war. The Palestinians are utterly powerless in any way that matters--they can't get their land or water rights back, and they can't stop military attacks on their communities. Suicide bombing is the terrorism of the weak, and it's hardly a surprise that people will do it if you strip them of everything that means something to them.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
33. Actually, Muslims live in peace in Israel proper.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 12:16 AM
Dec 2013

Hopefully, Kerry's attempt at peace talks will work.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
41. I know a lot of Jews who had to leave Muslim countries like Morocco and Algeria and others although
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 05:25 PM
Dec 2013

their families had lived their for hundreds of years. I met many in France back in 1965. I also met some in Los Angeles maybe 15 years ago.

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