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WHOA! No wonder that train derailed! (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Dec 2013 OP
Sounds like the similar recent case in Spain. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #1
My first thought as well. nt onehandle Dec 2013 #5
Was that texting or on the phone? n/t malaise Dec 2013 #8
Phone, supposedly Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #9
Damn malaise Dec 2013 #10
Sounds like the line need to be modified. Speed control technology allows beacons and bluestate10 Dec 2013 #2
My father in law is retired railroad underpants Dec 2013 #3
It would have to be a massive equipment failure for it NOT to be a human failure. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #7
I have a bad feeling in my gut about this one. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2013 #4
Just a little bit more Revanchist Dec 2013 #6
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
9. Phone, supposedly
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:22 PM
Dec 2013

he was on the phone talking about which platform he was going to stop at and apparently got distracted enough to miss the braking point (on a stretch of the line without automatic control).

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
2. Sounds like the line need to be modified. Speed control technology allows beacons and
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:01 PM
Dec 2013

sensing equipment to over-ride the conductor and slow the train if speed is too high at a specific location, like a mile or half-mile before the danger spot.

underpants

(182,818 posts)
3. My father in law is retired railroad
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 08:02 PM
Dec 2013

He has told me plenty about all the considerations and the route knowledge that is necessary. He had maybe (we think) a 5th grade education...maybe 7th but he needed to go to work and get out of the holler. Both his children went to college.

This is just gross neglect by that crew it sounds like.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. It would have to be a massive equipment failure for it NOT to be a human failure.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 09:07 PM
Dec 2013

The default attitude of train brakes is to be engaged, a safety feature on all trains that dates back many many generations (it varies by country and system).

When there's a fault in the system, the brakes will engage.

Thus, it's unlikely that brakes are to blame.

Modern locomotive units have governors, don't they? If these fail, or if they can be overridden, it takes some serious human failure to allow (or cause) that to happen and then to fail to engage brakes, I would think.

I can't see how this could be anything but human error/failure.

How sad.

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