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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 11:12 AM Dec 2013

Girl, 11, told not to sell mistletoe, but begging is fine

By Dan Cassuto

PORTLAND, Ore. -- You can tell right away that Madison Root has a shrewd business sense.

She launched a small business on Saturday morning with all the right ingredients for success.

Location?

Portland Saturday Market -- where the crowds are.

Product?

Mistletoe -- perfect for Christmas.

Packaging?

Hand-wrapped and tied with a red bow.

Madison, 11, even cut and chopped the mistletoe herself from her uncle's farm in Newberg.

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/11-year-old-told-not-to-sell-mistletoe-but-begging-is-fine-234014261.html

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Girl, 11, told not to sell mistletoe, but begging is fine (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2013 OP
Then get proper approval treestar Dec 2013 #1
The individual mandate for private insurance came straight from the Heritage Foundation Fumesucker Dec 2013 #2
You posted that in the wrong place. treestar Dec 2013 #3
Right wing ideas are all equally bad Fumesucker Dec 2013 #5
Irrelevancies are also all equally bad... it's just that some are more irrelevant than others LanternWaste Dec 2013 #18
Tell that to treestar Fumesucker Dec 2013 #20
The kid is too young to sign a contract. The father could, but then the kid couldn't do the selling FarCenter Dec 2013 #4
And to top it off, then the kid, (or father) would have to do the paperwork for the real reason for RC Dec 2013 #15
Lemonade stands are a gateway enterprise to running numbers and dealing drugs. FarCenter Dec 2013 #19
Oh, like weed is a gateway drug to crack. RC Dec 2013 #21
Well if we don't like the laws, we can work to change them treestar Dec 2013 #23
Every permit application I've seen is based on a flat fee. Trillo Dec 2013 #7
Doesn't make it less fucking pathetic that our government is telling her to beg instead. joeglow3 Dec 2013 #12
because city ordinance bans commerce like that without proper approval......everyone should be equal lunasun Dec 2013 #6
Where did you see their political affiliation? joeglow3 Dec 2013 #13
Is some mistletoe toxic? MyshkinCommaPrince Dec 2013 #8
Well, it wasn't until Justin Bieber made a song about it snooper2 Dec 2013 #10
That is a pretty stupid headline... snooper2 Dec 2013 #9
I agree.... BronxBoy Dec 2013 #17
All she has to do is ask a licensed vendor to sell her stuff for her. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2013 #11
How about you make a donation to her and she GIVES you mistletow as thanks (?) KurtNYC Dec 2013 #14
Just about all of the farmers markets here in GA..... BronxBoy Dec 2013 #16
Stories like this pop up regularly... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #22
Yep, there's also one about an African immigrant grading hair treestar Dec 2013 #24

treestar

(82,383 posts)
1. Then get proper approval
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 11:22 AM
Dec 2013

That's all they had to do.

This is a typical right wing tactic.

Teach the kid that opening a business involves getting permits.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. The individual mandate for private insurance came straight from the Heritage Foundation
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 11:27 AM
Dec 2013

And yet many here on the DU defend it to their last breath.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. Irrelevancies are also all equally bad... it's just that some are more irrelevant than others
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 04:20 PM
Dec 2013

Irrelevancies are also all equally bad... it's just that some are more irrelevant than others.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
20. Tell that to treestar
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:33 PM
Dec 2013

They were the one who brought irrelevancies on board the conversation in the first place.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
4. The kid is too young to sign a contract. The father could, but then the kid couldn't do the selling
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 11:39 AM
Dec 2013

The kid would be too young to work for the father's business according to child labor laws.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
15. And to top it off, then the kid, (or father) would have to do the paperwork for the real reason for
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:20 PM
Dec 2013

the permits in the first place. Paying the sales tax and sometimes other taxes associated with selling stuff.
It's a wonder more kids don't end up in jail for operating illegal lemonade stands in the summer.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. Well if we don't like the laws, we can work to change them
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:09 AM
Dec 2013

Most of these types of laws are there for a reason.

So get the council to enact a program for kids to open little businesses of this type.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
7. Every permit application I've seen is based on a flat fee.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:06 PM
Dec 2013

Flat fees are highly regressive. Thus, keeping kids and other poor folks out of business would be one of the expectations. I'm skeptical that its purpose is educational.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. because city ordinance bans commerce like that without proper approval......everyone should be equal
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:02 PM
Dec 2013

You can buy whistles, order crepes and sign a marijuana petition all without walking more than ten steps.

But you can't open a business without going through the market's formal application process. =DUh

and really - for braces??

Nutters like to call themselves patriots but also so like to live without laws and pimp their kids I notice


Free market meme BS imo

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
8. Is some mistletoe toxic?
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:23 PM
Dec 2013

I've read that some types are toxic. I don't know if that's really true. If it is, I kind of wonder if mistletoe toxicity might play some part in any story like this.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
17. I agree....
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 03:56 PM
Dec 2013

making an investment in time and money to sell a product to raise money for any number of reasons is not the same as standing on a street corner and begging for money because you don't have any fucking thing to eat.

Now THAT's a false equivalency in my mind.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. All she has to do is ask a licensed vendor to sell her stuff for her.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:56 PM
Dec 2013

for instance, this vendor:

A vendor selling ceramic bowls told KATU News she wishes the rules made an exception for children.

"They should have a caveat for children trying to create options for commerce, especially this time of year," said Sharon Steen, co-owner of Perfect Bowls. "We encourage it. We want them to grow up and be entrepreneurs."





[font style=color:#FF0000;]there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?[/font]

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
16. Just about all of the farmers markets here in GA.....
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 03:40 PM
Dec 2013

require a written application ranging from very simple to pretty complex. In many cases this is not even close to going down to the city and applying for a permit. In addition to making sure that the vendors adhere to the rules of the market and helps to protect consumers, the rules also help protect the vendors who make a commitment to the market. Why should vendors make a commitment to keeping this public gathering going when anyone and their grandfather can just set up shop 20 feet away and sell products that might even undercut the vendors at the market?

Many markets even have a rule that there has to be at least one person 18 years or older at the table in order to sell. And many markets allow younger folks to sell as long as there is a qualified adult at the table.

Much ado about nothing if you ask me

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
22. Stories like this pop up regularly...
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 11:01 PM
Dec 2013

The last one I recall was some little girl who showed up at a state fair with her Lemonade stand and then cried to the media when the mean old state fair officials tossed her out.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. Yep, there's also one about an African immigrant grading hair
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:10 AM
Dec 2013

and found out she needed a license.

Right wingers use these extreme cases to argue that businesses should not be regulated.

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