She, like Bill (NAFTA), is too corporate. At least we know that going into it. I feel a bit like I was taken by Obama's hope and change message. I think he's done a great job given all the obstruction. He has surprised me with his TPP stance. I'm afraid of an 11th hour decision on KXL.

I'm not happy at all with his TPP support.

I don't see how this can benefit us and our country. Maybe I'm not looking hard or deeply enough, but I just can't see what the benefit of TPP. I really can't.

We need a progressive President. If not Warren, perhaps another.

They are pretending it isn't real.

Let's just think about it this way: If Warren was asked to sign this secret letter in support of Hillary Clinton for President, could she really say No? So was it really an endorsement or just a practical way to not have people all over her for daring to challenge the grate Clinton.

No, she couldn't. This letter nonsense is just that - nonsense. Probably Bill's or Lanny's made up story.

She signed a secret letter with 25 other women, started by a Clinton supporter, which merely encourages Hillary to run.

Do you want her to deny the lie that this is a public endorsement?

Words mean whatever we want them to mean. Dictionaries are for losers.

And DU seems to be for liars

2014 isn't even over and this site is being used as a medium to suppress progressive Democratic female senators from running in 2016, as what could only be part of some campaign. Its shameful

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hence teh lol

But it is happening. A lot.

If warren wants to run, she will run.

It probably comes straight from the Clinton headquarters. And that is good news to me.

The Clinton machine is quite real and quite powerful.

-Laelth

Newt Gingrich coined that term back in the 90s.

Noam Scheiber mentioned it in a recent essay. It's real, even if it wasn't as old when Newt Gingrich named it. There's nothing wrong with it, btw, but let's be honest about its existence.

Here: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115509/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clintons-nightmare

-Laelth

She is the least scary politician to come down the pike in a decade.

But it sure is weird, and it sure is widespread.

They're angry, they bend the meanings of words, and they post nothing about why Warren shouldn't run, just that she'll lose, she belongs in the Senate, and that her supporters are really, really stupid and/or Republican infiltrators.

Very odd.

In the first few replies you will normally get the lie. Sometimes its instant.

Im not saying its aliens, but.....

DU isn't a propaganda engine meant to throws lies onto

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In fact, I'm seriously thinking going full Independent. The "Democrats" have moved far too right for far too long, and I see ZERO impetus to move Left from this batch of so-called "DEMS." Disgusting.

to where you will have zero influence in the real world is a sound idea, knock yourself out.

Hillary is all for any trade agreements for screwing us. I don't trust Hillary, like I don't trust Bill!

January, just after Ms. Warren had taken her oath of office?

They believe Senator Warren will eventually jump into the race. Or, at least, they hope she will.

-Laelth

It just makes me think less of Senator Warren if she doesn't see Hillary's values are anathema to the values and issues Warren ran on for her Senate seat and the reasons that so many of us are trying to draft her to run.

Who ever the nominee is I'll vote for them. In a lot of ways I'd like to see Hillary be the first woman President but it won't matter if someone else gets the nod or she bows out cause I'm voting Democratic all the way.

Michelle & Jill

then again, EW may not be ready to run for president, anyway. She was just elected as a freshman Senator a little over a year ago. It's a long time between now and 2016, and there are still the midterm elections to focus on, so it's best to wait and see who will step forward. Regardless of which Democrat gets the nomination, it's important to give them a strong progressive majority in both Houses.

And endorsement is a public, exclusive announcement of support for candidate running for political office.

A secret encouragement to run is not an endorsement.

How odd, since there's nothing about an "endorsement". A political endorsement is a quite different animal than 'encouraging someone to run'.

-Laelth

of some of our fears regarding her positions so maybe she will address them publically and reconsider them.

She's a smart woman. I'm sure she is politically adept to know when to evolve with the changing political landscape.

Or, is this thread like peanut butter to ants?




SHE ISN'T FUCKING RUNNING LOL

Well, not really-- since Warren by no means "endorsed" Hillary Clinton.

I imagine Hillary won't be getting a whole lot of "secret letters" once people know that she or (more likely) her people leak the info.