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From The Guardian (WaPo LBN link here):
Details of the giant database of location-tracking information, and the sophisticated ways in which the NSA uses the data to establish relationships between people, have been revealed by the Washington Post, which cited documents supplied by whistleblower Edward Snowden and intelligence officials.
The spy agency is said to be tracking the movements of at least hundreds of millions of devices in what amounts to a staggeringly powerful surveillance tool. It means the NSA can, through mobile phones, track individuals anywhere they travel including into private homes or retrace previously traveled journeys.
The data can also be used to study patterns of behaviour to reveal personal information and relationships between different users.
Note that the articles mention the capture of location is incidental. Quite the incident, then. Oops!
On edit: Forgot to add - for anyone wanting to get rid of the All Seeing Eyes, or at least retain some digital privacy, consider using the excellent and very comprehensive list of open source software & addons at http://prism-break.org
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)In conversations with The Washington Post over Barton Gellman and Ashkan Soltani's recent story on cellphone location tracking, an intelligence agency lawyer told Gellman, "obviously there is no Fourth Amendment expectation in communications metadata. But some experts say it's far from obvious that the 1979 Supreme Court case on which the administration bases this view gives the government unfettered power to scoop up Americans' cellphone location data.
That Supreme Court case, called Smith v. Maryland, started with a 1976 robbery of a woman named Patricia McDonough in Baltimore. Soon afterward, she began receiving threatening calls from a man who identified himself as the robber. In one of those calls, the man on the line asked her to come outside, where she saw a 1975 Monte Carlo she had earlier described to the police drive by slowly.
The police spotted a man matching McDonough's description of the robber driving a 1975 Monte Carlo in her neighborhood later that month and traced the license plate to a Michael Lee Smith. Without getting a warrant, the police requested the telephone company install a pen register device to record the numbers dialed from Smith's home. The pen register revealed a call to McDonough, and Smith was arrested.
Smith argued that police violated his Fourth Amendment right to privacy by failing to get a warrant for the pen register. But the Supreme Court disagreed with him. The high court ruled that the audio of the phone call is protected by the Fourth Amendment, but the numbers he dialed is not. Ever since then, law enforcement agencies have invoked Smith v. Maryland to argue that while the contents of communications enjoy Constitutional protection, "metadata" like phone numbers dialed does not. The NSA argues that the same ruling applies to location metadata.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/04/the-nsa-says-it-obviously-can-track-locations-without-a-warrant-thats-not-so-obvious/
klook
(12,155 posts)But the surveillance of an individual suspect is nothing like the worldwide dragnet collecting data on billions of non-suspects.
The NSA program treats everyone as a suspect. How this is supposed to be legally defensible is beyond me.
randome
(34,845 posts)I'm not saying I'm in favor of everything the NSA does but that's how it's 'legally defensible'.
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Aerows
(39,961 posts)"I'm not saying I'm in favor of everything the NSA does." No one would know it with the way that you continuously jump into these threads and minimize, rationalize and explain how you think this is all perfectly legal, we all know this is happening, and we should just accept it.
That sounds like condoning to me.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)how will they know where to aim the drones?
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)IP droning
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)elias7
(4,005 posts)hell, you just posted on a subversive website
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)because smart ones connect 40.000 times per hour with all kinds of adresses.
Given what we know now, it's no longer necessary to chip everybody to track us. We chipped ourselves, in order to text "i'm in the traffic jam" and to read Facebook on the toilet.
The only valid reason I can think of to have a mobile is to warn people in case of emergency.
I predict a boom in NSA-free technology, providers and services.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)No wonder Feinstein keeps screaming about how many enemies America has. Apparently over 2/3rds of the planet are tarrarrists.
This shit would be laughable, if there weren't so much money and power behind it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)marmar
(77,080 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I wonder if that would work?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)anyone who thinks some minor reforms are going to fix all of this are deluding themselves...