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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts) Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:21 AM Dec 2013

Family returns home from visiting dying relative to find stranger has moved into their house

Family returns home from visiting dying relative to find stranger has moved into their house, changed all the locks and claimed it as HIS under obscure Ohio law

A family Ohio were in for a nasty surprised after they returned from a visit out-of-town visit to a dying relative to find someone else had moved into their house.

Their outrage has now turned into a court battle, pitting them against a man who says he has the court documents to prove the house is now his.

Robert Carr moved into the home that had been occupied for 21 years, changed the locks and emptied the house.

When the family confronted Carr, he showed them a document he filed with the the County Court.

It's called a 'quiet title' and lays claim to the property because Carr says the family abandoned the house and gave up all their rights.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516220/Man-seizes-abandoned-family-homes-Ohio-whilst-owners-town.html#ixzz2mbeGp9zV

I actually got this from a friend who lives in Dayton. You've got some strange laws over there if this for real.

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Family returns home from visiting dying relative to find stranger has moved into their house (Original Post) dipsydoodle Dec 2013 OP

It's not Ohio law that's the problem here: it's yet another "sovereign citizen" scam struggle4progress Dec 2013 #1

execpt for the loss of all of their Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #4

You are right. By "procedure nuisance," I meant to emphasize the fact that struggle4progress Dec 2013 #7

they have to start over... Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #8

Great. Another "sovereign citizen"-nutjob. DetlefK Dec 2013 #2

Does the Daily Mail have any proofreaders? Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #3

This sovereign citizen bullshit has to stop sharp_stick Dec 2013 #5

If he doesn't go to jail over this one, I predict Mr. Carr's scam will eventually end Buns_of_Fire Dec 2013 #6

Update, he's been arrested Revanchist Dec 2013 #9

In which case that's the best news today dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #11

Good. Now make it stick and lock this creep away for a good long while. nt Buns_of_Fire Dec 2013 #12

It's not going to work. Period. nt Lex Dec 2013 #10

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)

1. It's not Ohio law that's the problem here: it's yet another "sovereign citizen" scam

Reply to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:31 AM

Dec 2013

The guy worked a team of folk to watch when people left town, then he'd file papers claiming under various legal theories that the property was his: there was quite a lot of perjury involved

He was doing this at break-neck speed for a while: on one day, he filed seven cases. It's fraud, and he'll end up in jail for it, but it's a procedural nuisance for the actual homeowners meanwhile

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)

4. execpt for the loss of all of their

Reply to struggle4progress (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:47 AM

Dec 2013

Belongings, and the money to fight and relocate.

It is not just a proceedural nuisance.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)

7. You are right. By "procedure nuisance," I meant to emphasize the fact that

Reply to Niceguy1 (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:59 AM

Dec 2013

they don't get to walk right back into their house, which really really sucks

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)

8. they have to start over...

Reply to struggle4progress (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:00 AM

Dec 2013

They will be lucky to avoid bankruptcy.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

2. Great. Another "sovereign citizen"-nutjob.

Reply to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:32 AM

Dec 2013

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)

3. Does the Daily Mail have any proofreaders?

Reply to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:58 AM

Dec 2013

"A family Ohio were in for a nasty surprised"

"returned from a visit out-of-town visit"

In one section of the article, the name of the town is "Springfield"; in another section, it is "Springdale".

At any rate, Mr. Carr sounds like a real piece of work.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)

5. This sovereign citizen bullshit has to stop

Reply to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:49 AM

Dec 2013

these fuckers tried something similar in Calgary a few months ago. It took the owner nearly two years to punt the asshole.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/calgary-homeowner-tours-home-for-first-time-since-sovereign-citizen-evicted/article14612035/

Buns_of_Fire

(17,177 posts)

6. If he doesn't go to jail over this one, I predict Mr. Carr's scam will eventually end

Reply to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:50 AM

Dec 2013

most unpleasantly for him. It'll take just one instance of the wrong house chosen, with the wrong homeowner, and his head is going to wind up a "sovereign citizen" of his own ass.

That, or he'll be offered a multi-million-dollar position on Wall Street.