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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts) Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:41 PM Dec 2013

American teacher shot dead while jogging in Benghazi

Gunmen shot and killed a young American teacher as he was jogging in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi on Thursday, amid an upsurge of violence between radicals and security forces.

Ronnie Smith, a chemistry teacher at the city’s international school, was killed while on his regular afternoon running route in Dubai Street, an upmarket area of the city.

His death comes with Libya enduring some of the worst violence since the 2011 revolution, with nearly three weeks of clashes between militias and the army in both Benghazi and Tripoli, the capital. Three Libyan army soldiers were killed in the eastern port city earlier on Thursday.

Last week the army stormed four bases of Ansar al-Sharia, the Islamist militia blamed by some for the killing last year of American ambassador Chris Stevens at the US consulate. Bombings and assassinations have continued on a near-daily basis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/05/american-teacher-ronnie-smith-shot-dead-jogging-benghazi

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American teacher shot dead while jogging in Benghazi (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 OP

This guy in Benghazi, the old guy in North Korea...do people not fucking read the news? TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #1

Here we go again... JaneyVee Dec 2013 #2

To paraphrase a triumphant Hillary Clinton: He came, he saw, he died. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #3

Your agenda is showing. Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #5

Which one? The anti-Hillary as imperial gloater agenda? I plead guilty. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #10

Yeah, brutal dictator, civilian chemistry teacher, exactly the same. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #13

Attempted cheapjack insults notwithstanding, I feel sorry for the dead teacher. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #18

You're the one whose entry in this thread was to gloat over his death. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #19

The Clinton Penis/Christmas card machine AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #21

But not sorry enough to avoid gloating over his death to make a political point. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #23

You mean like Hillary Clinton? "We came, we saw, he died." Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #25

"tu quoque" Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #26

The Teabaggers will get a lot of mileage out of this. Paladin Dec 2013 #4

IMPEACH! zappaman Dec 2013 #6

Pathetic assholes BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #7

How do we know this wasn't a CIA or Fox News operative that shot them Dreamer Tatum Dec 2013 #8

you serious? Puzzledtraveller Dec 2013 #12

Oh, sorry. The CIA and Fox are out planting flowers right now. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2013 #16

Here...maybe humanize yourself a little BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #22

There are posters downthread who could use your concern. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2013 #24

It's Obama's Fault yellowwoodII Dec 2013 #9

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #17

There are serious lingering issues about our Libyan intervention. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #11

I am fairly certain Clinton's penis had something to do with this. Bandit Dec 2013 #14

Yeah. Jogging in Benghazi strikes me as totally safe for Americans Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #15

Relative to what? jberryhill Dec 2013 #27

It's Obama's fault AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #20

44 People are murdered every day in the USA gerogie2 Dec 2013 #28

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

1. This guy in Benghazi, the old guy in North Korea...do people not fucking read the news?

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:57 PM

Dec 2013

Unless you're in the military or state department, you can pretty easily avoid anti-American hellholes.

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

2. Here we go again...

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:57 PM

Dec 2013

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

3. To paraphrase a triumphant Hillary Clinton: He came, he saw, he died.

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:01 PM

Dec 2013

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)

5. Your agenda is showing.

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:07 PM

Dec 2013

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

10. Which one? The anti-Hillary as imperial gloater agenda? I plead guilty.

Reply to Ikonoklast (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:21 PM

Dec 2013

Her remarks celebrating the death of Gaddafi were disgusting and despicable. A real low point in her career.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

13. Yeah, brutal dictator, civilian chemistry teacher, exactly the same.

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:26 PM

Dec 2013

Well, to you anyways . . . so long as the dead teacher is an American.

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

18. Attempted cheapjack insults notwithstanding, I feel sorry for the dead teacher.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:56 PM

Dec 2013

And you can take your imputations and put them where they belong. Your remarks are almost as disgusting as Hillary's.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

19. You're the one whose entry in this thread was to gloat over his death.

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:13 PM

Dec 2013

Probably should not object to people assuming you mean what you say.

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)

21. The Clinton Penis/Christmas card machine

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:23 PM

Dec 2013

is at it again. Ken Starr Redoux.

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)

23. But not sorry enough to avoid gloating over his death to make a political point.

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:29 PM

Dec 2013

The high ground...perhaps you've heard of it.

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

25. You mean like Hillary Clinton? "We came, we saw, he died."

Reply to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #23)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:44 PM

Dec 2013

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)

26. "tu quoque"

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:50 PM

Dec 2013

Look it up...

Paladin

(28,257 posts)

4. The Teabaggers will get a lot of mileage out of this.

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:04 PM

Dec 2013

They'll claim that Obama is personally responsible for this teacher getting killed...while jogging...in Benghazi.

Condolences to the teacher's family, but damn. Jogging in Benghazi?

zappaman

(20,606 posts)

6. IMPEACH!

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:09 PM

Dec 2013

Also, my car had a flat tire this morning, thanks Obama...

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)

7. Pathetic assholes

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:18 PM

Dec 2013

killing a teacher.

RIP, Mr. Smith.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)

8. How do we know this wasn't a CIA or Fox News operative that shot them

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:19 PM

Dec 2013

to keep Benghazi in the news?

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)

12. you serious?

Reply to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:26 PM

Dec 2013

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)

16. Oh, sorry. The CIA and Fox are out planting flowers right now. nt

Reply to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:34 PM

Dec 2013

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)

22. Here...maybe humanize yourself a little

Reply to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:28 PM

Dec 2013

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/american-teacher-shot-killed-benghazi-article-1.1538237

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)

24. There are posters downthread who could use your concern. nt

Reply to BeyondGeography (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:29 PM

Dec 2013

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)

9. It's Obama's Fault

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:20 PM

Dec 2013

Oh, goodie! Fox will have another chance to say, "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

11. There are serious lingering issues about our Libyan intervention.

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:23 PM

Dec 2013

And they don't go away just because Fox News is screaming "Benghazi!" all the time.

Just who was it we intervened to save in Benghazi, and how did that work out for us?

Bandit

(21,475 posts)

14. I am fairly certain Clinton's penis had something to do with this.

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:27 PM

Dec 2013

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)

15. Yeah. Jogging in Benghazi strikes me as totally safe for Americans

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:34 PM

Dec 2013

Does this guy think he's in a cozy Midwestern town?

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)

27. Relative to what?

Reply to Pretzel_Warrior (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 04:08 PM

Dec 2013

I've been in a number of places with dodgy reputations, but they still have typically lower rates of violent crime than major US cities.

There are some basic precautions and a sense of situational awareness required, but the statistics are what they are.

Even when you hear of "violent clash at riot in City X", the bottom line is that a riot in a major city occurs in one place, at one time. A couple of blocks away is "business as usual in City X" even while the riot is going on.

There was a study a while back that indicated regular news viewers grossly overestimate the dangers of everyday life, which is a consequence of the fact that the ordinary is not "news".

The headlines never say "Most All Of One Billion Muslims Had A Normal Day, Just Like Any Other Day".

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)

20. It's Obama's fault

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:21 PM

Dec 2013

Why didn't he have Seal Team 6 personally escorting the guy on his jog? Obama had time to dispatch them between when the gun was aimed and the trigger was pulled. Why the delay? And the talking points were initially inaccurate maybe kinda! Issa, ISSA!

gerogie2

(450 posts)

28. 44 People are murdered every day in the USA

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 04:09 PM

Dec 2013

Why is this news?

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