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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:04 PM Dec 2013

Who Smells a Rat? (Monsanto & GMO Research)


What do you do when your scientific journal publishes a study that Monsanto doesn’t like? And the industry bombards you with complaints?

You hire a new editor. And retract the study.

In September 2012, the journal Food and Chemical Toxicology (FCT) published the findings of the first long-term study of rats fed genetically modified corn. The study’s authors, led by Gilles-Eric Séralini of the University of Caen, France, concluded that the GM corn caused cancerous tumors in the test rats.

The biotech industry wasted no time attacking the study, which was released about a month before Californians were set to vote “yes” or “no” on an initiative to require labels on foods containing genetically modified organisms (GMOs). The attacks were predictable. But who would have predicted what followed next?

Not long after the study came out, FCT created a new editorial position—Associate Editor for Biotechnology—and appointed none other than a former Monsanto employee, Richard E. Goodman, to the post.

Fast-forward to November 28, 2013, when the publisher of FCT announced it was retracting the study. Not because of fraud or misrepresentation of data. But because, upon further review, the journal’s editors had decided the study was “inconclusive.”


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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. I was gonna say they can't handle findings that affect their bottom line--
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:11 PM
Dec 2013

But obviously, this case shows they CAN handle such findings.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
6. I keep asking what is this "scientific materialism."
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 04:33 PM
Dec 2013

I never get an answer.

I looked it up on-line, got a number of fuzzy "definitions."

Apparently in some circles, guilt by accusation and asking for actual evidence that is peer-reviewed is "materialism."

"Dr" Andrew Wakefield used fake data to link autism to vaccines, that report has been withdrawn and Wakefield discredited.
Except among those who are still true believers, like Jenny McCarthy.

In the case mentioned in the OP, the methodology was flawed, the rats being used are prone to tumors in the first place.

So why is this study being still promoted?

One of three reasons, mainly:

1. The promoter is insane. Paranoid rejections of what is new and innovative is nothing new, you should have seen the laws that used to be in place to restrict this newfangled gadget called the "automobile."
In Saudi Arabia they still say women won't be able to have babies if they drive.

2. The agenda is paramount.
That agenda being that "big business" is out to poison us.
All evidence that shows otherwise is "evil" or "brainwashing."

3. Money. "Organic" food is a scam, just go to your local supermarket, and look at the price of milk, and notice the price of organic milk.
There is very little, if any, difference between a strawberry, and an "organic" one, yet the "organic" strawberry will undoubtedly be as much as 2 or even 3 times higher in price.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
7. my organic milk keeps much longer, though,
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:45 PM
Dec 2013

and that is important in a household that doesn't always regularly consume milk.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
9. Why is this study still being promoted?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 08:23 AM
Dec 2013

OK Arch, here's my response. If in some ultimate sense you want "answers," then your own faculties will no doubt avail you.

1. In the first place, since the start of the controversy the media has done an egregiously bad job of reporting on what the Seralini study actually said, as opposed to what corporate opponents said the study said. In the 2nd place, it is of glaringly obvious ethical concern that the "newly hired" editor who shitcanned the article is a former Monsanto employee. Hello? Is that not some kind of red flag?

2. As far as I can see, Seralini is not the active ingredient here in arguing for the study to get proper respect, but rather people and organizations who feel profoundly concerned that the staff of life (broadly speaking) is being mechanically overshadowed at a blistering pace, without careful truly independent long-term research. All of this accompanied by a long, well-documented pattern of corporate bullying and perverse ethical and business behavior. Hello? Red flag #2

3. Money? I don't think so. You should really go visit a bunch of these farms. Then bring up the money question again. To quote the late Oscar Wilde, "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. And a sentimentalist...is a man who sees an absurd value in everything, and doesn't know the market place of any single thing.” Maybe you will agree with me that most of the people on the organic side tend toward the sentimentalist end of the equation, and that the GMO, Inc. Corporate Dynamo tends to the cynical. At any rate, for some folks that is Red flag #3.



BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
8. LOL.......
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:59 PM
Dec 2013

Big AG spends millions of dollars to put out their point of view.quash any opposing viewpoints, sue family farms into oblivion and have their cronies entrenched in some of the highest regulatory bodies, courts and educational institutions in the land.

But it's us small sustainable farmers who are the money grubbing vermin.

Gotta love it, don't you?

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
3. There has been a massive Orchestrated Campaign to trash GMO studies that document problems
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:22 PM
Dec 2013

Pity the poor rats (and people) who are occultly fed the corporate mutant food like substances.



http://www.independentsciencenews.org/science-media/the-goodman-affair-monsanto-targets-the-heart-of-science/

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
10. European Network of Scientists (ENSSER) Comments on the Retraction of the Séralini et al. Study
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 01:46 PM
Dec 2013

Journal’s retraction of rat feeding paper is "a travesty of science" and looks like a bow to industry.

http://www.ensser.org/fileadmin/user_upload/ENSSERcommentsretraction_final.pdf

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
13. Seralini apparently considering a lawsuit
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:24 AM
Dec 2013

From Forbes:
"As the Genetic Literacy Project reports, the GMO wars are escalateing after the discrediting of a central pillar of the anti-crop biotechnology movement and the stumbling by a prominent science journal...."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/11/29/notorious-seralini-gmo-cancer-rat-study-retracted-ugly-legal-battle-looms/

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