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Redfairen

(1,276 posts) Thu Dec 5, 2013, 04:46 PM Dec 2013

Rick Warren: Contraception Mandate Is Like Making A Jewish Deli Sell Pork

Requiring employers to provide insurance covering contraception is no different than forcing a Jewish deli to sell pork, evangelical Christian pastor and bestselling author Rick Warren said Wednesday.

"I don't have a problem personally with contraception but I support anybody's right to not have to pay for it if they don't believe in it," Warren said on HuffPost Live.

"That's what I support. That's called freedom of speech. In other words, if all of a sudden they made a law that said every Jewish deli in Manhattan has to start selling pork, I would be out there with the rabbis protesting that. Why? I don't have a problem with pork, but I believe in your right to not have to sell pork if it's not in your faith."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-warren-contraception-mandate-like-making-a-jewish-deli-sell-pork

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Rick Warren: Contraception Mandate Is Like Making A Jewish Deli Sell Pork (Original Post) Redfairen Dec 2013 OP

Gee, I thought he was supposed to fade into obscurity after 2009. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #1

What about supporting HIPPA? Turbineguy Dec 2013 #2

Somehow there is a difference SheilaT Dec 2013 #3

Or maybe that the Jewish deli . . . Brigid Dec 2013 #9

Bingo TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #13

He is a racist mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #4

"..if they don't believe in it..." Cal Carpenter Dec 2013 #5

Are there any Jewish delis in Manhattan that do *not* already sell ham sandwiches? ieoeja Dec 2013 #6

Coincidentally, he's pushing a new diet book now. bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #7

Gosh - Conflate much Rick? Blue Idaho Dec 2013 #8

More like gollygee Dec 2013 #10

It's just one prayer! joeybee12 Dec 2013 #11

Looks like Warren has a new book to flog. Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #12

I do not like this guy. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #14

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)

1. Gee, I thought he was supposed to fade into obscurity after 2009.

Reply to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 04:47 PM

Dec 2013

Or mend his ways. One of the two.

Looks like neither happened.

Turbineguy

(37,331 posts)

2. What about supporting HIPPA?

Reply to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 04:49 PM

Dec 2013

What if it's none of your fucking business what your employees do in their spare time?

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

3. Somehow there is a difference

Reply to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 05:51 PM

Dec 2013

between making a Jewish deli sell pork, and including contraception in health care coverage. Can't quite figure out what it is, but there's a difference.

Maybe, the fact that a customer who wants pork can easily go to another deli or sandwich shop, but employees can't quite as easily move to another job.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)

9. Or maybe that the Jewish deli . . .

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:09 PM

Dec 2013

Is simply deciding what will be on their menu: Kosher food. It's sort of like a Chinese restaurant not serving tacos. It doesn't affect an employee's life.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)

13. Bingo

Reply to Brigid (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:26 PM

Dec 2013

Proper healthcare is not a snack, and the comparison trivializes the subject in the most reprehensible way.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)

4. He is a racist

Reply to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 05:55 PM

Dec 2013

homophobe for sure. I view him as a Faux Entertainment News contributor.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)

5. "..if they don't believe in it..."

Reply to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:01 PM

Dec 2013

It's not Santa Claus. It's fucking MEDICINE.

Asshole.

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)

6. Are there any Jewish delis in Manhattan that do *not* already sell ham sandwiches?

Reply to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:01 PM

Dec 2013

If in reality Jewish delis already sell ham sandwiches because their religion has nothing to do with their business ... then Mr Warren just killed that particular meme.