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Breaking Nelson Mandela is dead (Original Post) malaise Dec 2013 OP
Sweet Rest mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #1
Perfectly said. Thank you. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2013 #9
A True mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #13
So departs a great man. Skidmore Dec 2013 #2
Muhammad Ali on Nelson Mandela's death: malaise Dec 2013 #66
..... octoberlib Dec 2013 #3
.... alsame Dec 2013 #4
R.I.P. Liberalynn Dec 2013 #5
... magical thyme Dec 2013 #6
.. gollygee Dec 2013 #7
rest in peace warrior1 Dec 2013 #8
How tragic! herding cats Dec 2013 #10
Link mfcorey1 Dec 2013 #11
:-( maddezmom Dec 2013 #12
This nonsense about him being the first black President in South Africa really pisses me off malaise Dec 2013 #14
Spot on madokie Dec 2013 #18
Do not forget the war criminal of a dick was one of four ReTHUGs malaise Dec 2013 #23
I did not know that madokie Dec 2013 #26
+1 TexasTowelie Dec 2013 #41
+1 countryjake Dec 2013 #33
Political titles were not important to him either. Skidmore Dec 2013 #67
Beautiully stated Skidmore malaise Dec 2013 #68
He was proof that one person can make a difference madokie Dec 2013 #15
A monumental life lived ... a monumental loss SaveOurDemocracy Dec 2013 #16
Rest in peace Nelson! hrmjustin Dec 2013 #17
An amazing, amazing man. progressoid Dec 2013 #19
RIP MadrasT Dec 2013 #20
Farewell Madiba, Who We Once Called Nelson Mandela ProSense Dec 2013 #21
Great coverage here malaise Dec 2013 #56
Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika struggle4progress Dec 2013 #22
Nice malaise Dec 2013 #25
I was utterly flabbergasted when the government released him from prison and negotiated struggle4progress Dec 2013 #35
Across Jamaica we banged pots and pans as he was released malaise Dec 2013 #36
May the memory of his name be a blessing struggle4progress Dec 2013 #40
RIP nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #24
South African National Anthem struggle4progress Dec 2013 #27
Very sad...RIP joeybee12 Dec 2013 #28
.... Suziq Dec 2013 #29
k&r for Nelson Mandela. He made the world a better place. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #30
There's comfort in knowing he lived to see democracy and equality come to his homeland. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2013 #31
Well it was a double edged sword malaise Dec 2013 #32
RIP Sir. You were one of the best! Rex Dec 2013 #34
I'm shedding tears Siwsan Dec 2013 #37
"Never discount the difference that one person can make" countryjake Dec 2013 #38
And we are less than we were this morning. Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #39
We shall not see his like again theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #42
Coverage from Jamaica malaise Dec 2013 #46
... spanone Dec 2013 #43
Jimmy Carter on Mandela's death malaise Dec 2013 #45
thanks for that... spanone Dec 2013 #47
I'm waiting for the war criminal of a dick malaise Dec 2013 #48
... 2naSalit Dec 2013 #44
We lived with Greatness. Octafish Dec 2013 #49
How lovely to watch people of all races outside Mandela's home malaise Dec 2013 #50
Mine, too. Octafish Dec 2013 #52
Mandela with my favorite cricketer - Brian Lara malaise Dec 2013 #63
I am humbled to add my condolences to this thread. Boomerproud Dec 2013 #51
Sad SusieQ01 Dec 2013 #53
Knew this was coming, still... very sad Va Lefty Dec 2013 #54
Your Light Is Eternal KittyWampus Dec 2013 #55
Love and RIP to Madiba stevenleser Dec 2013 #57
Have you seen the sign at the Apollo in Harlem tonight malaise Dec 2013 #60
Not yet. I need to check it out. Kinda too sad to go out. stevenleser Dec 2013 #65
Asimbonanga countryjake Dec 2013 #58
In South Africa the people are out in the streets celebrating his life - dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #59
Lovely to see malaise Dec 2013 #61
I woke up to Township music on the radio this morning on BBC2. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #73
I'm watching BBC International malaise Dec 2013 #74
() Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #62
Rest in peace Mr. Mandela. William769 Dec 2013 #64
I am annoyed watching my Facebook feed tonight TBF Dec 2013 #69
i have friends in South Africa weetie Dec 2013 #70
. BumRushDaShow Dec 2013 #71
A remakable man, and even his ability to survive was other-worldly. Kurovski Dec 2013 #72

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
1. Sweet Rest
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 05:48 PM
Dec 2013

to you Black Prince. Love to you and your family. Your struggle is over, the mantle will be carried on by others.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
66. Muhammad Ali on Nelson Mandela's death:
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:47 PM
Dec 2013

'His was a spirit born free, destined to soar above the rainbows. Today his spirit is soaring through the heavens. He is now forever free' - statement via @NBCNews

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2013/12/05/muhammad-ali-on-nelson-mandelas-death-his-was-a/

malaise

(268,998 posts)
14. This nonsense about him being the first black President in South Africa really pisses me off
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 05:55 PM
Dec 2013

Africans ruled South Africa for hundreds of years. It is our Continent.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
23. Do not forget the war criminal of a dick was one of four ReTHUGs
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:03 PM
Dec 2013

who voted against Mandela being freed.

Cheney was one of four republicans that voted against Mandela's release from prison.

When Rep. Dick Cheney voted against a 1986 resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela and recognition of the African National Congress, Americans did know this man had been waiting decades for his freedom. In a larger sense, so had all black South Africans. The tenets of American democracy -- one man, one vote -- were denied to the majority of citizens, along with the most basic economic and educational needs.

Yet Republican vice presidential candidate Cheney still defends his vote, saying on ABC's ``This Week'' that ``the ANC was then viewed as a terrorist organization. . . . I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago.'' What, then, does this tell us about what information Cheney considers before he takes a decision? And what the long-term consequences are likely to be, and on whom?

Pete Botha was a renowned racist and for Cheney to support him then speaks for itself.

In fact, while the United States maintained diplomatic ties with South Africa, former President P.W. Botha ordered the 1988 bombing of the South African Council of Churches in Johannesburg. Twenty-three people were injured. For decades, other government operatives did far worse, killing and maiming everyone from political activists to infants.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
26. I did not know that
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:05 PM
Dec 2013

thanks

the dick of a war criminal is on the wrong side of every issue without a doubt

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
67. Political titles were not important to him either.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:53 PM
Dec 2013

To me he stands above all nations in a way that only a few great teachers who have embodied the enlightened conscience of man have throughout history. We have been fortunate to have three of these great teachers on earth during our lifetimes--Gandhi, King, and Mandela. Great men of broad vision. Men of their peoples and of all peoples. Representative of their times and of all times because they grasp the parochial and eternal nature of the human condition and sought to tap the potential for goodness that lies within mankind.

As much as South Africa has lost in this one leader, we have all lost.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
35. I was utterly flabbergasted when the government released him from prison and negotiated
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:24 PM
Dec 2013

a new constitution. I really could not believe hew and the ANC had pulled it off. Such a long grim nightmare preceded that happy day! Mandiba and his comrades really knew their stuff. They assembled one tricky and unstable coalition after another, then sent the whole show on an international tour. And finally they extended a hand of friendship to their worst enemies and said: We can either live together, or we will face each other across the fields of dead and the smouldering ruins of our country. And it worked. Somehow it worked. Somehow the weapons were packed away, and the great bloody civil war we all saw looming on the horizon melted away like a morning fog

Oh, Mabdiba, you didn't win the whole struggle -- not even close! -- but what you did accomplish really was a miracle

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
40. May the memory of his name be a blessing
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:34 PM
Dec 2013

and with it may we also remember all those taken from life during the long dark night

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
31. There's comfort in knowing he lived to see democracy and equality come to his homeland.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:10 PM
Dec 2013

And lived a remarkable life.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
32. Well it was a double edged sword
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:17 PM
Dec 2013

because the terms for the democracy left him saddled with the debts accumulated during apartheid.

Obama to speak live in four minutes

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
34. RIP Sir. You were one of the best!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:24 PM
Dec 2013

A true inspiration to us all!!! Rest in Peace you King of Humanity. The world lost a great hero of the people tonight.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
37. I'm shedding tears
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dec 2013

Like Dr. King and Mahatma Gandhi, he was an amazing, fearless man who fought the good fight for justice.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
38. "Never discount the difference that one person can make"
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:32 PM
Dec 2013

President Obama on the death of Nelson Mandela ~ December 5, 2013


malaise

(268,998 posts)
45. Jimmy Carter on Mandela's death
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:46 PM
Dec 2013

Jimmy Carter said, "Rosalynn and I are deeply saddened by the death of Nelson Mandela. The people of South Africa and human rights advocates around the world have lost a great leader. His passion for freedom and justice created new hope for generations of oppressed people worldwide, and because of him, South Africa is today one of the world's leading democracies."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5juA9SEBJzZFFFWExI5ofV1Rlm-Ow?docId=7b1f426b-3879-442f-8f6b-555711dd0511

malaise

(268,998 posts)
48. I'm waiting for the war criminal of a dick
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:51 PM
Dec 2013

to speak so I can puke. Remember that scumbag voted against his release from prison.

Check out the tributes from Jamaica

http://rjr94fm.com/live.php

malaise

(268,998 posts)
50. How lovely to watch people of all races outside Mandela's home
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:02 PM
Dec 2013

Oh Happy Day - thank you Nelson Mandela - you were a major part of my life.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
58. Asimbonanga
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:29 PM
Dec 2013


Asimbonanga
(Mandela)


Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang' uMandela thina (We have not seen Mandela)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'ehleli khona (In the place where he is kept)

Oh the sea is cold and the sky is grey
Look across the Island into the Bay
We are all islands till comes the day
We cross the burning water

Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang' uMandela thina (We have not seen Mandela)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'ehleli khona (In the place where he is kept)

A seagull wings across the sea
Broken silence is what I dream
Who has the words to close the distance
Between you and me

Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang' uMandela thina (We have not seen Mandela)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'ehleli khona (In the place where he is kept)

Steve Biko

Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang 'umfowethu thina (we have not seen our brother)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'wafela khona (In the place where he died)

Victoria Mxenge

Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang 'umfowethu thina (we have not seen our brother)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'wafela khona (In the place where he died)

Neil Aggett

Hey wena (Hey you!)
Hey wena nawe (Hey you and you as well)
Siyofika nini la' siyakhona (When will we arrive at our destination)

Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang 'umfowethu thina (we have not seen our brother)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'wafela khona (In the place where he died)

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
59. In South Africa the people are out in the streets celebrating his life -
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:33 PM
Dec 2013

dancing in the streets. The mourning will follow.

RIP Mr Mandela.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
73. I woke up to Township music on the radio this morning on BBC2.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:12 AM
Dec 2013

From the past but appropriate too : Lira and Soweto Spiritual Singers tribute to Mr Nelson Mandela - Something inside so strong..



I'd already posted Labi Siffre's original in the video forum last night.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
74. I'm watching BBC International
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:29 AM
Dec 2013

Great coverage of aspects of Madiba's life, but what's missing is Britain's role in South Africa's apartheid history.

TBF

(32,060 posts)
69. I am annoyed watching my Facebook feed tonight
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:15 PM
Dec 2013

because the only tributes for Mr. Mandela are coming from folks who I know are liberal or left wing organizations. The right for all their cries of "freedom" are completely silent. That tells me all I need to know about their values.

weetie

(18 posts)
70. i have friends in South Africa
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:48 PM
Dec 2013

They wonder what happens now that he is gone. For a long time those who would cause a problem have been tamped down by his mere presence. Now what will happen? They are in fear of their lives even though they support Madiba's ideals. I guess being white may be crime enough.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
72. A remakable man, and even his ability to survive was other-worldly.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:46 AM
Dec 2013

It spoke to many of us about surviving and continuing the long haul, and being on the side of right.

He was a man, but also an emblem of history, and the long road it took for that history to set right its own path.

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