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(1,451 posts)to you Black Prince. Love to you and your family. Your struggle is over, the mantle will be carried on by others.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,620 posts)mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)Freedom Fighter.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)The world has less light in it now.
malaise
(268,998 posts)'His was a spirit born free, destined to soar above the rainbows. Today his spirit is soaring through the heavens. He is now forever free' - statement via @NBCNews
http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2013/12/05/muhammad-ali-on-nelson-mandelas-death-his-was-a/
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)He was an amazing person.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)maddezmom
(135,060 posts)RIP Mr. Mandela
malaise
(268,998 posts)Africans ruled South Africa for hundreds of years. It is our Continent.
malaise
(268,998 posts)who voted against Mandela being freed.
Cheney was one of four republicans that voted against Mandela's release from prison.
When Rep. Dick Cheney voted against a 1986 resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela and recognition of the African National Congress, Americans did know this man had been waiting decades for his freedom. In a larger sense, so had all black South Africans. The tenets of American democracy -- one man, one vote -- were denied to the majority of citizens, along with the most basic economic and educational needs.
Yet Republican vice presidential candidate Cheney still defends his vote, saying on ABC's ``This Week'' that ``the ANC was then viewed as a terrorist organization. . . . I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago.'' What, then, does this tell us about what information Cheney considers before he takes a decision? And what the long-term consequences are likely to be, and on whom?
Pete Botha was a renowned racist and for Cheney to support him then speaks for itself.
In fact, while the United States maintained diplomatic ties with South Africa, former President P.W. Botha ordered the 1988 bombing of the South African Council of Churches in Johannesburg. Twenty-three people were injured. For decades, other government operatives did far worse, killing and maiming everyone from political activists to infants.
madokie
(51,076 posts)thanks
the dick of a war criminal is on the wrong side of every issue without a doubt
Thanks for the background info.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)To me he stands above all nations in a way that only a few great teachers who have embodied the enlightened conscience of man have throughout history. We have been fortunate to have three of these great teachers on earth during our lifetimes--Gandhi, King, and Mandela. Great men of broad vision. Men of their peoples and of all peoples. Representative of their times and of all times because they grasp the parochial and eternal nature of the human condition and sought to tap the potential for goodness that lies within mankind.
As much as South Africa has lost in this one leader, we have all lost.
malaise
(268,998 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)Good man.
The world is a little lighter today.
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)progressoid
(49,990 posts)RIP.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/05/1221633/-Farewell-Madiba-Who-We-Once-Called-Nelson-Mandela
Rip Mandela
malaise
(268,998 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)He came to Jamaica. I was there - in two places. Saw him in the flesh - I am so sad.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)a new constitution. I really could not believe hew and the ANC had pulled it off. Such a long grim nightmare preceded that happy day! Mandiba and his comrades really knew their stuff. They assembled one tricky and unstable coalition after another, then sent the whole show on an international tour. And finally they extended a hand of friendship to their worst enemies and said: We can either live together, or we will face each other across the fields of dead and the smouldering ruins of our country. And it worked. Somehow it worked. Somehow the weapons were packed away, and the great bloody civil war we all saw looming on the horizon melted away like a morning fog
Oh, Mabdiba, you didn't win the whole struggle -- not even close! -- but what you did accomplish really was a miracle
malaise
(268,998 posts)That tradition goes back to emancipation
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)and with it may we also remember all those taken from life during the long dark night
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)And lived a remarkable life.
malaise
(268,998 posts)because the terms for the democracy left him saddled with the debts accumulated during apartheid.
Obama to speak live in four minutes
Rex
(65,616 posts)A true inspiration to us all!!! Rest in Peace you King of Humanity. The world lost a great hero of the people tonight.
Siwsan
(26,262 posts)Like Dr. King and Mahatma Gandhi, he was an amazing, fearless man who fought the good fight for justice.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)President Obama on the death of Nelson Mandela ~ December 5, 2013
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Bow your heads, as no other, this person deserves our respect.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)But he has left his footpath for us to follow.
RIP, Mr. Mandela...
malaise
(268,998 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)Jimmy Carter said, "Rosalynn and I are deeply saddened by the death of Nelson Mandela. The people of South Africa and human rights advocates around the world have lost a great leader. His passion for freedom and justice created new hope for generations of oppressed people worldwide, and because of him, South Africa is today one of the world's leading democracies."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5juA9SEBJzZFFFWExI5ofV1Rlm-Ow?docId=7b1f426b-3879-442f-8f6b-555711dd0511
spanone
(135,832 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)to speak so I can puke. Remember that scumbag voted against his release from prison.
Check out the tributes from Jamaica
http://rjr94fm.com/live.php
Octafish
(55,745 posts)May his Vision continue through our Actions.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Oh Happy Day - thank you Nelson Mandela - you were a major part of my life.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)We love him in Detroit.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)Please, do not forget this man and his legacy.
That's all.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)safe journey to a great man
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)May we kindle it in our own hearts that it may grow ever brighter.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)Lovely
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)Asimbonanga
(Mandela)
Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang' uMandela thina (We have not seen Mandela)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'ehleli khona (In the place where he is kept)
Oh the sea is cold and the sky is grey
Look across the Island into the Bay
We are all islands till comes the day
We cross the burning water
Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang' uMandela thina (We have not seen Mandela)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'ehleli khona (In the place where he is kept)
A seagull wings across the sea
Broken silence is what I dream
Who has the words to close the distance
Between you and me
Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang' uMandela thina (We have not seen Mandela)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'ehleli khona (In the place where he is kept)
Steve Biko
Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang 'umfowethu thina (we have not seen our brother)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'wafela khona (In the place where he died)
Victoria Mxenge
Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang 'umfowethu thina (we have not seen our brother)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'wafela khona (In the place where he died)
Neil Aggett
Hey wena (Hey you!)
Hey wena nawe (Hey you and you as well)
Siyofika nini la' siyakhona (When will we arrive at our destination)
Asimbonanga (We have not seen him)
Asimbonang 'umfowethu thina (we have not seen our brother)
Laph'ekhona (In the place where he is)
Laph'wafela khona (In the place where he died)
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)dancing in the streets. The mourning will follow.
RIP Mr Mandela.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Amazing local coverage here
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)From the past but appropriate too : Lira and Soweto Spiritual Singers tribute to Mr Nelson Mandela - Something inside so strong..
I'd already posted Labi Siffre's original in the video forum last night.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Great coverage of aspects of Madiba's life, but what's missing is Britain's role in South Africa's apartheid history.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)TBF
(32,060 posts)because the only tributes for Mr. Mandela are coming from folks who I know are liberal or left wing organizations. The right for all their cries of "freedom" are completely silent. That tells me all I need to know about their values.
weetie
(18 posts)They wonder what happens now that he is gone. For a long time those who would cause a problem have been tamped down by his mere presence. Now what will happen? They are in fear of their lives even though they support Madiba's ideals. I guess being white may be crime enough.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)It spoke to many of us about surviving and continuing the long haul, and being on the side of right.
He was a man, but also an emblem of history, and the long road it took for that history to set right its own path.