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PORT HURON, Mich. (AP) -- A Michigan woman accused of lying about having cancer has been convicted in a separate case of falsely accusing two men of rape.
A St. Clair County judge Thursday sent Sara Ylen (WHY'-lin) to jail to await sentencing on Jan. 17. Jurors took less than 30 minutes to convict her.
Ylen's also charged with fraud in Sanilac County for allegedly faking cancer for years.
Ylen accused two men of attacking her at her Lexington home last year. Police say she used makeup to create what looked like bruises.
Prosecutor Suzette Samuels says Ylen's story reads "like a cheap novel."
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mythology
(9,527 posts)I feel I can safely conclude that this woman needs the serious counseling. I hope she gets it so she doesn't have to resort to things like this.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)The man she accused, James Grissom, insisted he was innocent. He served about a decade in prison before his 2003 conviction was overturned last year based on new evidence about Ylen's credibility.
This man should have a good civil suit. There is nothing that will give him back those ten years. She should serve at least as long as his term behind bars. Unbelievable that she could do this to another person through the justice system.
Upton
(9,709 posts)I should think it's only fair she gets the same amount..
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Response to Purveyor (Original post)
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BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Just a cogent person without a persecution complex. Obviously the experience was awful for the man, but for you to use that to pretend that false accusations are common is repulsive. People are falsely convicted of all kinds of crimes. Is that all the fault of us demonic women too? Is the fact that only 4% of rapists are actually convicted too much for you? That 20% of American women are raped obviously makes no impression. Don't forget I saw you insist that jails were too crowded to keep a man who had raped over 25 women in prison and who had reoffended the very day of his last release. That you consider violent assault on a large percentage of the women in America and on DU as an opportunity to make snide remarks reveals a great deal.
Remdi95
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)If there is one false accusation of rape for every thousand righteous accusations .... that one false accusation invalidates the remaining 999!
What happened to that poor man is horrific and unconscionable. I truly hope that justice is served (though it will not replace the man's ten years lost).
Clearly the hidden post above is being used to stigmatize women and rape victims. A very successful tactic used to bolster prejudice and marginalize people ... how many people folk buy into the meme "all Muslims are terrorists" because of the actions of a TINY fraction of folk committing heinous acts in the name of Islam? Those sentiments would never be tolerated here, however, there does appear to be a great deal of tolerance for misogyny
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)CHECKMATE FEMINISTS.
Seriously, MRA fail. The woman in this case needs to be put behind bars for what she did, but this is in no way the norm.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)What's frustrating is that in so many rape cases, the woman is discouraged from filing charges, or not taken seriously by police/prosecutors, or is put on trial herself and has irrelevant things about her life used to paint her as "trash" since that would prove that she couldn't have been raped.
There are two problems. 1. We know that a few cases where someone is found guilty are false - just as with all other crimes - and that people serve prison time in those cases just like when falsely accused of murder, robbery, etc. 2. But we also know that there are lots of cases where people are guilty and aren't found guilty, and often aren't even charged. It's frustrating to have the reality of the second problem be dismissed so casually because of the reality of the first problem. They can both exist at the same time.
kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)person be found guilty, which I believe is a correct moral/ethical position to hold, does put 'problem 1' above 'problem 2'. Do you believe, as a principle, that we would rather see 100 guilty persons be set free than have 1 innocent person be found guilty? If not, could you explain your position so I can understand it better?
I do see that both are problems though, just of vastly different importance from a legal/moral/ethical standpoint.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)find to be the correct moral/ethical position?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)I don't want to see anyone guilty free, and I don't want to see anyone innocent convicted. I reject the idea that we have to allow rapists to roam free in case someone might get convicted falsely. If that were the ideal, we would never convict anyone of any crime. That's the only certain way to make sure no one innocent is ever convicted of anything.
That statement you discuss is about being innocent until proven guilty. I do agree that in the courts a person is innocent until proven guilty and that it should remain so. I don't believe it's an ideal that anyone guilty be set free. I think this young man's conviction was likely a result of racism, and that social justice in that area would probably help keep a great number of people from being unjustly convicted of crimes.
kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)would be to never convict anyone of anything. Our system of justice (I would argue by design) knows that, in practice, many factually guilty persons will be found not guilty due to the state not meeting the very high standard of beyond a reasonable doubt (in criminal actions). The reason for that design is to try and make sure factually innocent persons are not found guilty. Do you agree with this premise? If so, do you think that is a good thing? Doesn't that, in effect, say that we as a society think your 'problem 1' is a bigger problem than 'problem 2'?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)cover up. reports are not taken. judges are not giving time to convicted rapists. rapes are being downgraded, not investigated. do you believe that is a good thing?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It isn't only, or even mostly, a matter of proving that a crime occurred, it's also a matter of proving that the defendant is the guilty party.
The court which convicted the wrong guy is to blame for the real criminal's next victim.
http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/
gollygee
(22,336 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It isn't just about justice to the accused, but also to future victims.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Most rapes are never even reported.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)short of falsely accusing them of child molestation. That poor guy's life in prison was probably horrible.