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applegrove

(118,658 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:48 PM Dec 2013

"Don't Blame Robots For Declining Wages -- Blame Dissolving Unions"

Don't Blame Robots For Declining Wages -- Blame Dissolving Unions

Tali Kristal at Talking Points Memo

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/dont-blame-robots-for-declining-wages-blame-dissolving-unions

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Some scholars argue that one explanation for this gap is technological changes, including the widespread introduction of computers into the workplace, which over the past few decades left workers less productive than machines and other equipment. This in turn, the argument goes, encouraged firms to reduce their hiring and curb wages and benefits for their employees. Other analysts disagree with this blame-the-robots angle and stress the role of political forces – especially the weakening of labor unions, which has left workers with less power to fight for their own interests.

Until now, there has been no statistical analysis that directly compares these two opposing approaches to explain workers’ falling economic fortunes. I designed my research to address this debate head on. Using decades-long data, I found that broad economic trends masked big differences in various industrial sectors.

The largest declines in the share of income going to workers happened in industries like manufacturing and transportation where unions were once powerful. In other industries like finance, trade and private services, where there was never much of a union presence, the share of economic gains going to workers either remained steady or slightly increased.

In other words, I found a large decline in labor’s compensation and a hefty increase in corporate profits only in sectors that once had high rates of union membership. This suggests that a decline in union membership – which led to disempowerment of workers when bargaining with employers – was the main factor allowing the executives and owners in those sectors to grab the lion’s share of the fruits of economic growth.


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"Don't Blame Robots For Declining Wages -- Blame Dissolving Unions" (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2013 OP
too many scabs K lib Dec 2013 #1
Another No Shit Sherlock moment FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #2
For those who rant against unions, may I suggest the following double feature: Brigid Dec 2013 #3
Is it that membership is declining, or that the jobs are? Glassunion Dec 2013 #4
Disagree. ananda Dec 2013 #5
Labor now competes in a global marketplace. badtoworse Dec 2013 #6
The robot meme is neoliberal propaganda to take people's minds off the fact duffyduff Dec 2013 #7
Blame the politicians that passed anti-worker legislation over the last century. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #8
If you are going to take mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #9

K lib

(153 posts)
1. too many scabs
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:59 PM
Dec 2013

unfortunately we have too many people who can benefit from a union who rant against it, vote against it, or try to stop a strike when they themselves make only 10 dollars a hour. Real shame when some can't see the bigger picture.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
3. For those who rant against unions, may I suggest the following double feature:
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:30 PM
Dec 2013

"Matewan" and "Harlan County USA."

This is what unions are about, and why they came into being in the first place.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
4. Is it that membership is declining, or that the jobs are?
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:31 PM
Dec 2013

IIRC the percentage of those employed in manufacturing and who are members of a union is pretty static over the past 15 years. However we have lost about 7 million manufacturing jobs in the same time frame.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
5. Disagree.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:33 PM
Dec 2013

Due to globalization, outsourcing, and movement of vast amounts of money
offshore, unionization is rendered more and more irrelevant.

And robotics is simply taking away jobs from people who get slave/serf
wages, the last holdout for the job market.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
6. Labor now competes in a global marketplace.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:35 PM
Dec 2013

Today, most manufactured goods can be made in a significant number of countries. American labor is now in the position of having to compete with workers elsewhere in the world who are willing to do same the job for less money. Labor is no different than any other commodity in that competition will drive down the price.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
7. The robot meme is neoliberal propaganda to take people's minds off the fact
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:43 PM
Dec 2013

it is the trade policies and other destructive D.C. policies that favor the tiny number of financial elite over everybody else that's the problem.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
8. Blame the politicians that passed anti-worker legislation over the last century.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:45 PM
Dec 2013

But most of all, never forget who did it and how it was done.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
9. If you are going to take
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:50 PM
Dec 2013

3.8 Trillion dollars out of an economy you must blame robots, aliens, abortions, liberals, violent video games and no fathers in the blah community

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