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Stupid:
Public Policy Polling (PDF). March 10-11, 2012. Alabama and Mississippi Republican primary voters. ±4.0% in Alabama. ±3.8% in Mississippi. No trendlines.
Alabama Republican Primary voters:
Do you think Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, or are you not sure?
Christian: 14
Muslim: 45
Not sure: 41
Do you believe in evolution, or not?
Believe in evolution: 26
Do not: 60
Not sure: 13
Mississippi Republican Primary voters:
Do you think Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, or are you not sure?
Christian: 12
Muslim: 52
Not sure: 36
Do you believe in evolution, or not?
Believe in evolution: 22
Do not: 66
Not sure: 11
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/12/1073548/-Alabama-and-Mississippi-Republicans-don-t-believe-in-evolution-but-do-believe-Obama-is-a-Muslim?via=blog_1
bowens43
(16,064 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)They are stupid stupid people.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)stupidity. Not ignorance, which can be remedied, but hard-core, to-the-bone stupidity.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Especially since there are generally 3 parts to it, in the eyes of many people (those of us not majoring in biology fields)
There is
1. change within species - chickens developing certain features, depends on the environment
2. change between species - chickens changing into ducks or geese over very long spans of time
3. life developing from non-life - Oparin, et. al.
A person might object to the third part, and call that "non-belief in evolution".
The other part is, what is your baseline? How do those results compare to Alabama and Mississippi Democratic primary voters, and how does it compare to, say, California or Massachusetts Republicans and Democrats?
TBF
(32,089 posts)You're confusing me and I have post-graduate education (obviously not in biology)
But I do like your last sentence - it would be very interesting to see a comparison.
asjr
(10,479 posts)same as elsewhere. Those statistics do not surprise me. This the twenty-first century in most of the planet but not in these two states. It scares me to death. Most of these people are "educated" by others who have been "
educated" in the rural church. There are no question marks appearing in their heads. If pappy or granny says it is true, it is true.
TBF
(32,089 posts)and I completely understand what you're talking about. Very scary because it's likely to spread with FAUX news operating 24/7 ...
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I live in MS. I'm not about to claim that you are wrong about many of the people in MS and AL, but you really should include TN. I realize North Mississippi and North Alabama is like a third world country, but there are parts of TN that are just as bad. We do at least have the coast (where I live) and it is completely different.
asjr
(10,479 posts)TN voted for Santorum. I hope it will not in the election in Nov. but like AL and MS once a redneck, always a redneck. It is handed down from family to family. My aunt who will be 100 yrs old in April once was appalled that I had voted Democratic. She is not a redneck but she told me it was a family tradition to vote Republican. So there are many reasons many can come up with to vote Republican.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)whether something "special" was needed to spark the primordial soup into life.
A lot of fundies actually accept micro-evolution, since it is so obvious: bacteria evolving resistance to antibiotics, white moths turning darker & finally black during England's coal-fired Industrial Revolution and then back whiteward again when they stopped using so much coal & everything was no longer coated in soot.
They have a lot of trouble buying the major changes, & actually raise some interesting points. E.g. what selective advantage does the bunch of tissue that will eventually become an eye give to the organism before it has evolved into a sense organ? I.e., why should it start on the path to eyedom, when the intermediate stages would seem to provide no selective advantage?
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)with #1 being micro evolution and #2 being macro.
The other part is #3 requires a special spark for life and #2 would question whether there is a special spark to go from animal to humanity.
Although TBF is correct in that the average person has not studied it as much as the average college educated evangelical who denies evolution.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)and some evolution deniers do get fairly deep in the weeds on this issue.
I went to the link from Kos and they did not cover any other parties or states, although 3% of Republican primary voters (in this survey) in Alabama called themselves Democrats and 21% called themselves independents.
hlthe2b
(102,352 posts)Just sayin....
Talk about your self-fulfilling prophesies
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)It is a particularly hardy strain of teh stupid.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)It's not something you can believe or disbelieve in...either you understand it or you don't; if not, prove it wrong.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)and they are right!!!
Frankly, I think that your average white conservative in the deep south is just a cartoon anyway. Decades of inbreeding of the genetically challenged has done it's job. They are the republican base and they always will be.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)guitar man
(15,996 posts)These are people of the land. The common clay of the new South.You know... morons.
"what did he say?"
"he said the President is near"
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)just say out of spite.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)they are an emabrassment.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I know that there are people out there that are this ignorant, but those numbers just floor me.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)its no wonder this country is so f'kd up.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Many of the same folks that think Obama is a Muslim will flog the Rev. Wright horse again and again.
How can a Muslim have a Christian pastor?