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Killing a Lion is the MOST COWARDLY THING you can do (Original Post) MrScorpio Dec 2013 OP
It's certainly up there. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #1
Exactly BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #2
Melissa likes to kill animals for fun. Look at the below sight if you can. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #3
Assholes with Guns, I think. nt valerief Dec 2013 #16
Interesting that the comments are running 20:1 against her. grantcart Dec 2013 #49
Post on FB to get rid of her and on her fan page Maraya1969 Dec 2013 #52
Does she have an email addy? Who does she work for? nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #54
Don't know yet but the "Stop" page was set up and does not have Maraya1969 Dec 2013 #59
These psychos would kill humans if they had a permit. NealK Dec 2013 #78
I just don't understand trophy hunting NoOneMan Dec 2013 #4
When I first saw the picture of her with dead lion... Cracklin Charlie Dec 2013 #14
"Who shoots something after remarking/noticing how beautiful it is?" NoOneMan Dec 2013 #17
who do you know passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #26
No one NoOneMan Dec 2013 #27
Serial killers? Tom Ripley Dec 2013 #74
Melissa Bachman should be ashamed of herself Matariki Dec 2013 #5
She should do it like the Massai and then we will talk JCMach1 Dec 2013 #6
I so want to SLAP that stupid grin off her face. nt lunamagica Dec 2013 #7
these are disgusting cowards imbeciles samsingh Dec 2013 #8
Is she related to Michelle Bachman the politician? NickB79 Dec 2013 #9
If you want to kill a lion, go out there with a pointy stick and do it the old fashioned way. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #10
Amen! Moostache Dec 2013 #15
Exactly. They're snipers, not hunters. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #61
It's a rite of passage in some African societies Retrograde Dec 2013 #11
if it's beautiful, ma'am, why is it dead? spanone Dec 2013 #12
Definitely. There was a photo of Donald Trump's kids a few years ago with a cheetah they shot. Hoyt Dec 2013 #13
I saw a photo of them with an elephant they had shot. Disgusting people. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #53
Now that's messed up sakabatou Dec 2013 #83
with a rifle, sure arely staircase Dec 2013 #18
That is sick! She has no respect for life, what-so-ever! meti57b Dec 2013 #19
No expert, but from what little I do know basically everything in this is false Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #20
But a protected area... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #57
Horrific. liberalmuse Dec 2013 #21
She's the definition of true zentrum Dec 2013 #22
My wife was in tears after hitting a deer that jumped out in front of her car the other day. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #23
Justification leftwingbuffalowing Dec 2013 #24
more than just an opinion G_j Dec 2013 #28
I think you're right, and I think most other people feel similar. penultimate Dec 2013 #30
In Sarah Palin's Alaska The Wizard Dec 2013 #25
I'll never understand people who kill for sport.... penultimate Dec 2013 #29
That was a canned hunt, chances are Finnmccool Dec 2013 #31
Been reading a few researchers say the same thing about the bravado that surrounded whaling... rwsanders Dec 2013 #32
Maybe not THE most cowardly thing... that would be beating up a dog. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #33
A post from the Change.org petition. go west young man Dec 2013 #35
right on navarth Dec 2013 #46
People that love death, love to kill for sport imo. Rex Dec 2013 #36
I agree. And immoral, as well. Triana Dec 2013 #37
I can't stand to see that pic of her with that poor, majestic lion! She has no values whatsoever!! hue Dec 2013 #38
Vomit... Lithos Dec 2013 #39
Could have just as easily Flatpicker Dec 2013 #40
"This male lion is so beautiful that I must kill it." Dash87 Dec 2013 #41
I think killing lions is a fine idea cliffordu Dec 2013 #42
I personally recommend this weapon nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #43
+ 1 In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #69
Is She Going to Eat the Lion? Wolf Frankula Dec 2013 #44
LOL, being proud if killing an unarmed animal. Never understood it. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #45
This woman is an ASSHOLE navarth Dec 2013 #47
Wait a minute… assholes are have a necessary function in life! MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #55
Petition Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #48
Was signing but they ask for ones street address. efhmc Dec 2013 #72
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2013 #50
Lions aren't afraid because they've learned that people in those tblue Dec 2013 #51
It's just a shame that the lion LibDemAlways Dec 2013 #56
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #58
This disgusts me! blondie58 Dec 2013 #60
I can't help but think of this: Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #62
That sums it up... KansDem Dec 2013 #66
All that woman proved was... nikto Dec 2013 #63
"Loads of men shoot loads of lions all the time" oberliner Dec 2013 #64
When the dominant pride male is killed Enthusiast Dec 2013 #65
weapons weissmam Dec 2013 #67
Unless you do it with a toothbrush. Burma Jones Dec 2013 #68
In my world her picture is pornographic randr Dec 2013 #70
shes a coward rdking647 Dec 2013 #71
She is living proof that a woman can also be a pathetic little man Tom Ripley Dec 2013 #73
Nuances of African Hunting Breaker Morant Dec 2013 #75
What you killed davidthegnome Dec 2013 #80
Why do this? davidthegnome Dec 2013 #76
Disgusting. NealK Dec 2013 #77
She's filth...knr joeybee12 Dec 2013 #79
I hope Feral Child Dec 2013 #81
My impression* of full-fledged 'hunting' is that it involves a wide range of petronius Dec 2013 #82
I'd advise you to skip deer hunting in Texas. Paladin Dec 2013 #84

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
1. It's certainly up there.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:08 PM
Dec 2013

Sickening people who do this kind of thing.

Sad an animal has to die to feed somebody's ego.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
2. Exactly
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:16 PM
Dec 2013

I am so fucking disgusted by that picture. The OP made a very good point. I hope to be so lucky as to see lions in the wild, hopefully psycho bastards like Ms. Bachmann and the king of Spain won't have slaughtered them all yet.

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
52. Post on FB to get rid of her and on her fan page
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 11:34 PM
Dec 2013

Please post on these FB pages about her if you have an account.

The first link is a page to get rid of her and the second is a fan site of hers. The members are horrifying so they are worth explaining things to.

Well maybe not explaining but a few choice words about how pathetic and COWARDLY they all are will work.


https://www.facebook.com/events/232475696912873/
https://www.facebook.com/MelissaBachmanSupporters

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
59. Don't know yet but the "Stop" page was set up and does not have
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:41 AM
Dec 2013

many likes I think. Either way they might have the email. I've been reading and she and some other chick who does this are getting tons of hate mail.

I just read this: "TV presenter Melissa Bachman posted a photo of lion she allegedly shot and killed on Twitter, and was met with the full force of the animal-loving internet.
Bachman tweeted, saying: “An incredible day hunting in South Africa! Stalked inside 60-yards on this beautiful male lion…what a hunt!’ The tweet included a photo of Bachman and her gun looming over a (presumably dead) male lion. African lions are not an endangered species, but their status is considered “vulnerable.”
Bachman is currently a producer and co-host for the show Winchester Deadly Passion. She’s also no stranger to controversy as she was previously dropped as a contestant on the National Geographic TV show Ultimate Survivor Alaska after a petition on Change.org called for her dismissal as Bachman is a “contracted trophy killer.” The petition gained over 13,000 signatures in just 24 hours."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesevilla/tv-presenter-melissa-bachman-angers-entire-internet-after-sh

And there is a petition to get her out of Africa that that is closed now but it got almost 500,000 names in one day.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
4. I just don't understand trophy hunting
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:19 PM
Dec 2013

Its makes no sense to be proud of just killing something beautiful. It certainly doesn't seem natural to me and I don't understand why societies condone it.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
14. When I first saw the picture of her with dead lion...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 04:04 PM
Dec 2013

I thought it was so odd that she called him a beautiful male lion.

Was she just like...oh, it's so beautiful! Blam!

Who shoots something after remarking/noticing how beautiful it is?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
5. Melissa Bachman should be ashamed of herself
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:28 PM
Dec 2013

That photo essay really puts it in perspective. Thanks.

on edit: seriously, how would she possibly think that anyone could look at the beautiful lion and her stupid arrogant grin and think "way to go lady"? She must spend her time with psychopaths.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
6. She should do it like the Massai and then we will talk
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:45 PM
Dec 2013


Of course this is more typical of the hunting they do today



because conservation and tourism has become integral to their economy...

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
9. Is she related to Michelle Bachman the politician?
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:52 PM
Dec 2013

Two rightwing nutjobs from Minnesota with similar last names?

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
15. Amen!
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 04:06 PM
Dec 2013

I am so sick and tired of "sportsman" hunters...there is nothing sporting about firing lead projectiles from an invention you had NOTHING to do with conceiving or realizing into an animal that would otherwise rip out your lungs and eat your liver before you could blink.

Wanna impress me lady? Hunt that lion with a knife and kill it and THEN I will be impressed. Otherwise you're nothing more than a sniper not a hunter.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
11. It's a rite of passage in some African societies
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:55 PM
Dec 2013

But it's more controlled, and in part intended to cull the old, weak males from the packs (they'd otherwise die of starvation). I worked with a guy from Ethiopia who participated in one: he and some friends put their names in the state lottery for a license, and eventually got one. They were told how to identify "their" lion (they couldn't just go shoot one at random), and given a week to hunt, IIRC. No lions were actually seen, but he reported that plenty of beer was consumed.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Definitely. There was a photo of Donald Trump's kids a few years ago with a cheetah they shot.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 04:00 PM
Dec 2013

How friggin sick.
 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
20. No expert, but from what little I do know basically everything in this is false
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 04:39 PM
Dec 2013

Or, to be more precise, the things he states are only true in areas where these animals are protected and are actually fed.

Anyone who thinks actually hunting Lions is a SAFE activity -- particularly in heavy brush -- is out of their gourd or being deliberately misleading.

That said, I am not a fan of trophy hunting like this, but I understand that properly managed hunting can provide a valuable source of income and incentive to protect the animals from poaching.

Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #34)

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
21. Horrific.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 04:46 PM
Dec 2013

It boggles the mind how someone could murder such a beautiful, majestic creature and be proud of it. She belongs in the same hell as Cheney.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
23. My wife was in tears after hitting a deer that jumped out in front of her car the other day.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 04:49 PM
Dec 2013

How anyone could have that big stupid grin on their face after deliberately killing such a beautiful creature is just beyond my comprehension.

24. Justification
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 05:08 PM
Dec 2013

I am a vegetarian, but I do not believe that eating meat is inherently wrong. I do believe though, that killing an animal is only justifiable in means of self-defense or for a source of food. Killing an animal just for fun or so that you can have its head on your wall, is, in my opinion, wrong.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
25. In Sarah Palin's Alaska
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 05:11 PM
Dec 2013

they hunt wolves from helicopters with automatic weapons. Mankind can do much better.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
29. I'll never understand people who kill for sport....
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 05:32 PM
Dec 2013

I have no problem with people who hunt animals they will eat, but the sport hunting is twisted. I take it she is just going to have the poor guy stuffed? Senseless and cowardly to kill an animal that isn't any threat to you or that you don'r plan on eating.

Finnmccool

(74 posts)
31. That was a canned hunt, chances are
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 05:36 PM
Dec 2013

that Lion was raised on a Lion farm and was in a cage hours before she killed it.

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)
32. Been reading a few researchers say the same thing about the bravado that surrounded whaling...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 05:42 PM
Dec 2013

They only act nasty when someone is trying to kill them. Imagine that?
Maybe there's a foreign policy lesson in that somewhere.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. Maybe not THE most cowardly thing... that would be beating up a dog.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 05:45 PM
Dec 2013

But it's certainly in the ballpark!

I hope Melissa bachman enjoys every bite of that lion, and pity that the roles were not reversed. Fuck her and her ilk.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
35. A post from the Change.org petition.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:41 PM
Dec 2013

It's not mine. I just found it worth posting for everyone to see. Credit goes to Richard in Maryland.

It is the epitome of mans complete disregard for nature, for the pursuit of our own approval and self esteem. Look at her, she looks so proud with her big gun and smiley punch-me-in-my-stupid face family picture. You, lady, are what is wrong with the world. Take with no consequences. Shoot, kill, consume, destroy. That animal was born to a mother, was a father to many children, and was good at its pure existence. It might have been 10/20 years old, endured droughts, hunger, all the elements and everything thrown at it, BUT YOU came along with a nice big gun, probably 5 other tough guys driving with you, and your digital camera, and TOOK that all away! I hope you are proud, and when you are old and dying, remember in your last moments, what a great representation you have made of yourself and your contribution to earth. You didn't kill a lion, you stood behind a machine and pulled a little trigger, you pathetic, sad excuse of a human. Your money, your hunting antics, your insecurity to look at an amazing animal with the need to kill it instead of appreciating it and letting it be, are the traits of a coward. How much did you pay for that kodak moment? Did the lion get any of that money? I don't think so... If you enjoy that kind of blood sport it would be an equal match to pay to have you shot, put some proud pictures up on a blog, and make sure your family doesn't get a cent! Sounds fair! I really, really, really wish all the cyber-bullying the world has left to give, to give it all to you..... you asked for the attention, the moment you claimed your prize!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. People that love death, love to kill for sport imo.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:49 PM
Dec 2013

It gives one a window into their incredibly sick and twisted minds.

You should NEVER kill a lion (rhino, elephant, etc..) unless he is charging you to make you into poo later the next day. I have heard of lions becoming man killers and I can understand the need to kill them to protect the human heard, but killing a lion for sport only proves one loves death (or murdering something) more than life imo.

Killing something for food, totally different subject imo...see "lion charging to make you into poo" for a reference.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
40. Could have just as easily
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 07:34 PM
Dec 2013

Hunted it with a camera lens.

Then you have your ego boost. (I got within 60 yards of a lion.)
And the lion could have kept his life.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
42. I think killing lions is a fine idea
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 07:57 PM
Dec 2013

And a true test of your courage.

Just as long as the only thing you have to do the job is a sharp stick.

And NO backup.


 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
43. I personally recommend this weapon
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:02 PM
Dec 2013


Of course with one of these...



Both make it home, and you do get your "trophy."

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
44. Is She Going to Eat the Lion?
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 09:15 PM
Dec 2013

No? Leave the lion alone.

Was the lion trying to kill her or hers? No? Leave the lion alone.

Wolf

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
55. Wait a minute… assholes are have a necessary function in life!
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 11:39 PM
Dec 2013

The "hunter" in the photo is little bag of piss poor protoplasm.

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
72. Was signing but they ask for ones street address.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:03 AM
Dec 2013

No can do. Unfortunately, that leads to paper mail.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
51. Lions aren't afraid because they've learned that people in those
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 11:29 PM
Dec 2013

safari vehicles are harmless. But lions are not stupid. If people start shooting them from vehicles, you can bet the lions won't be so nonchalant anymore when they see the safari wagons coming. I was fortunate to go on safari and see them in the bush. Breathtaking experience and yes they are so close by you can hardly believe it.

How anyone could shoot one is beyond me. You don't eat lion, and I wouldn't shoot one if I did. I just heard there aren't that many in the wild anymore. Man, I hate that woman for shooting that lion. I'm nonviolent, so I'd better shut up before I write something I'll regret. Suffice it today, she's on my shit list.

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
60. This disgusts me!
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:57 AM
Dec 2013

I am not a hunter and quite honestly, I don't know how anyone can take another souls life. I lean Buddhist- I don't kill anything. I didn't realize how easy it is- thanks for the cool pictures.

"Every creature has a soul although the body may be different. "
Hippocrates

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
63. All that woman proved was...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:02 AM
Dec 2013

That a PIG can kill a lion.



I wish the woman bad luck, in any way possible.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
64. "Loads of men shoot loads of lions all the time"
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:24 AM
Dec 2013

Fellow Daily Maverick columnist Ivo Vegter points out that thousands of legal lion hunts are carried out in game parks across the country in an industry that contributes over R6.2 billion (£385m) to the South African economy, and questions why this particular case has received international notoriety.

"Is it not curious that a perfectly legal hunt justifies crudely insulting a woman in sexist terms?" he asks. "Loads of men shoot loads of lions all the time", he says, but none of them make it onto BuzzFeed or "get called sexist names by Ricky Gervais".

The hunting safari was organised by Maroi Conservancy who issued a statement on Facebook insisting that they would not apologise for facilitating the legal hunt. They argue that the meat from the animals is given to the local community and that funds from the hunts help to manage "sustainable conservancy" in the region.

South African Minister for Environmental Affairs, Edna Molewa has defended game farming and hunting, saying it contributes significantly "to conservation, tourism development, job creation and sustainable development, especially in rural areas, and is part of the broader biodiversity economy".

http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/56178/melissa-bachman-why-its-wrong-hate-us-lion-killer#ixzz2myKL1iHe

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
65. When the dominant pride male is killed
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:01 AM
Dec 2013

a replacement dominant male will then take over the pride's territory.

The new dominant pride male will kill all the cubs sired by the previous male.

It makes this sort of "hunting" doubly egregious.

I was a deer hunter until recently. This lion hunting isn't hunting.

weissmam

(905 posts)
67. weapons
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:08 AM
Dec 2013

while there are very good reasons to own fire-arms and to some degree I understand hunting, I think that people (who are not law enforcement and military) that are too into fire-arms are lacking elsewhere if you know what I mean

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
71. shes a coward
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:49 AM
Dec 2013

only a coward uses a gun to kill a wild animal that isnt threating her.
if she used a sword or a knife id have some respect for her but using a gun makes her a coward

 
75. Nuances of African Hunting
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:06 PM
Dec 2013

I realize there is little interest here in people looking at the nuances of hunting in Africa and its place in saving wildlife in Africa, but I will throw my experience and thoughts out there for those who may be interested in taking a further look.

1) Fundamental to any discussion of African wildlife and hunting is the understanding that wildlife has to "Pay its own way" in Africa. This is unfortunate, but it a simple fact of life.

2)I recommend the book "Game Changer: Animal Rights and the Fate of Africa's Wildlife." by Glen Martin. This book looks at the case for hunting and its role in saving Africa's wildlife. It also takes a critical look at the animal rights movement and ecotourism and the damage they are doing to wildlife.

I doubt few here have ever read anything like it, but as "Open-minded" liberals I would expect everyone to read the book to be able to discuss the subject rationally.

3)The original photo essay is misleading. Lions in tourism areas as documented in the essay which are acclimated to vehicle presence are essentially different animals than lions in wild hunting areas.

4) It is easy for western Liberals to advocate photo tourism without considering deeper issues. As discussed in "Game Changer" and witnessed by myself, there are areas that are not suitable for photographic tourism. How is game supposed to be saved in those areas, other than through the dollars brought in by hunting?

5) (Expansion of #4) I went hunting in Zimbabwe this summer and part of my hunt took place on a property called "Breakfast Farm." Breakfast Farm is not suitable for photographic safaris. For various reasons, you could tell that Breakfast Farm is doing a good job of preserving wildlife habitat and populations.

The meat from the game that I shot went to the villages and they were very happy to get it. They also received a fair amount of money for the 2 animals that I shot on their property.

The fact that I hunted there and provided meat and money to Breakfast Farm helped give them an incentive to maintain wildlife habitat and populations. Without hunting to provide income, Breakfast Farm would have little incentive to maintain habitat and populations and the game would be poached out and the land developed for grazing and crop land.

Furthermore, Breakfast Farm is an inherent part of a much larger, intact ecosystem. The loss of Breakfast Farm as a buffer to these other areas (including national parks) would harm the whole ecosystem.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
80. What you killed
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:47 PM
Dec 2013

was used in the appropriate way. People were fed, so it's death was not a sad waste. Animals in the wild also hunt for food, this is a natural thing, and more or less proper. When the kill benefits the community, the hunter, or the hunter's family, I have no moral objection to it.

That said, I also have known hunters who have left the animals to rot after killing them - aside from perhaps the head, which they take as a trophy to be stuffed and mounted upon their wall. Does having such a trophy in one's home indicate a mighty hunter or huntress? I don't think so.

When there is need, nearly everything in nature will kill to support it's continued existence. That said, it is largely only humans who mindlessly slaughter without need, or apparent benefit. This is one of the most despicable things about our species. Hunting, killing, should never simply be for the sake of an ego boost, bragging rights, or perhaps a response to boredom. If we do not approach such thing with the seriousness and respect it deserves, then I feel that we are greatly lessened by the experience, becoming something less than animal.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
76. Why do this?
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:30 PM
Dec 2013

Will she be skinning the lion and using it's fur/pelt/mane/whatever to keep warm? Probably not. She probably won't be eating the meat. Does she intend to earn a profit through selling it's dead body? I just honestly don't understand the purpose of this. I always feel a little sad when I see a moose or a deer on the back of a truck, waiting to be weighed and turned into steaks and burgers... but I understand that at least people will benefit from it in some relatively honest way. What I can't understand is the purpose of killing something just for bragging rights. Kill a lion from many yards away, or perhaps a tiger, cougar, grizzly bear... okay, so you can actually shoot a large target that you're aiming at, that you probably had the jump on. Where is the sport in that?

Living up here in Northern Maine, I understand killing animals for food, or in self defense (an angry bear is a thing of terror, though the black bear rarely bothers humans). I don't understand though, why anyone would kill something just for a trophy. With a gun, from a safe distance. Sport? Seems more like mindless slaughter.

A couple months ago I was on my way home from work, it was a brisk autumn day, the foliage was beautiful, leaves of red, green, orange and yellow filled the forest around the lake where my family lives. As I made it to the lake road, several yards in front of me an enormous moose walked out into the road. I stopped the car and stared at it for a minute. Rolled down the window and shouted, "Hey, quit blocking traffic!". The moose turned and stared at me with a look resembling amused boredom. I swallowed, hoping it didn't decide to charge my little ford focus. It just wandered around the road for a few minutes before finally trotting off into the trees. I shook my head, chuckling, but also a little relieved that I hadn't run into it out on the highway.

The thought of someone shooting that giant from forty yards away fills me with sadness. It was near hunting season, so it's possible that that is exactly what happened. I'm not Dr. Do Little, I talk to the animals, but they don't talk back. Yet I still have a healthy respect and fondness for most of them. I suppose I could hunt for food if I had to, but I consider hunting merely for sport despicable and cowardly.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
81. I hope
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:05 PM
Dec 2013

(I really do) that someday her "professional guide/back-up killer" slips up and she gets mauled by one of her intended trophies.

I don't want her to die, oh, no. I want her to spend a large chunk of her inherited wealth over the next 40-60 years paying people to lift her in and out of the bathtub and spoon-feed her.

I want her to shit in a colostomy-bag for the rest of her wasted, privileged life.

Sorry, folks, I won't go off like this often but I'm very honest about my feelings toward such people.

I don't believe in karma, but I hope for it.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
82. My impression* of full-fledged 'hunting' is that it involves a wide range of
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:48 PM
Dec 2013

activities extending long before and long after the hunt itself, for example:

  • Before: training physically for the rigor of the hunt, mastering the gear to be used, studying the environment and habits of the prey species;

  • During: finding, tracking, stalking the prey, killing it humanely, field-dressing, packing out;

  • After: butchering, storing, cooking, consuming, washing the dishes.
My respect for a hunter goes up proportionally to the degree that they make an effort toward and have an interest in participating in every aspect of the hunt.

However, I get the sense that there are some 'hunters' on these safaris who are simply transported to where they can take a shot, and then go home with a photo and a chunk of dead beast for the wall. All I can see there is that the pleasure is in the killing-an-animal part, and that's contemptible.

It's perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that there are positive spinoffs to this behavior (local food, money, and conservation) while still despising the actions of the so-called 'hunter.'

* I don't hunt, except in the ocean with a speargun, so take my opinion FWIW...

Paladin

(28,266 posts)
84. I'd advise you to skip deer hunting in Texas.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:01 PM
Dec 2013

It doesn't qualify as "hunting"; it's basically just "aiming." The longer I live, the more I regret taking part in it.

And to hell with this wretched woman and her "trophy."
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