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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:57 AM Dec 2013

Time to be Afraid in America: The Frightening Pattern of Throwing Police Power at Social Problems

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/time-be-afraid-america-frightening-pattern-throwing-police-power-social-problems



If all you’ve got is a hammer, then everything starts to look like a nail. And if police and prosecutors are your only tool, sooner or later everything and everyone will be treated as criminal. This is increasingly the American way of life, a path that involves “solving” social problems (and even some non-problems) by throwing cops at them, with generally disastrous results. Wall-to-wall criminal law encroaches ever more on everyday life as police power is applied in ways that would have been unthinkable just a generation ago.

By now, the militarization of the police has advanced to the point where "the War on Crime” and “the War on Drugs” are no longer metaphors but bland understatements. There is the proliferation of heavily armed SWAT teams, even in small towns; the use of shock-and-awe tactics to bust small-time bookies; the no-knock raids to recover trace amounts of drugs that often result in the killing of family dogs, if not family members; and in communities where drug treatment programs once were key, the waging of a drug version of counterinsurgency war. (All of this is ably reported on journalist Radley Balko’s blog and in his book, The Rise of the Warrior Cop.) But American over-policing involves far more than the widely reported up-armoring of your local precinct. It’s also the way police power has entered the DNA of social policy, turning just about every sphere of American life into a police matter.

The School-to-Prison Pipeline

It starts in our schools, where discipline is increasingly outsourced to police personnel. What not long ago would have been seen as normal childhood misbehavior -- doodling on a desk, farting in class, a kindergartener’s tantrum -- can leave a kid in handcuffs, removed from school, or even booked at the local precinct. Such “criminals” can be as young as seven-year-old Wilson Reyes, a New Yorker who was handcuffed and interrogated under suspicion of stealing five dollars from a classmate. (Turned out he didn’t do it.)

Though it's a national phenomenon, Mississippi currently leads the way in turning school behavior into a police issue. The Hospitality State has imposed felony charges on schoolchildren for “crimes” like throwing peanuts on a bus. Wearing the wrong color belt to school got one child handcuffed to a railing for several hours. All of this goes under the rubric of “ zero-tolerance” discipline, which turns out to be just another form of violence legally imported into schools.
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Time to be Afraid in America: The Frightening Pattern of Throwing Police Power at Social Problems (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2013 OP
I regret I have but one rec to give... KG Dec 2013 #1
Me too...............nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #10
Wearing the wrong color belt to school got one child handcuffed... dchill Dec 2013 #2
not to one up it DustyJoe Dec 2013 #31
Maybe they should just ask... dchill Dec 2013 #34
I agree with this, however DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #3
"What should be (sic) arm the cops with?" spike91nz Dec 2013 #5
and empathy. That would be an amazing armament. Ed Suspicious Dec 2013 #19
+1 to you & Spike. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #26
nice, but DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #37
well Locrian Dec 2013 #6
Why do cops need to be armed to serve a simple warrant - especially if it is over some Hestia Dec 2013 #11
a daisey? Rockyj Dec 2013 #33
K&R n/t Feral Child Dec 2013 #4
k/r marmar Dec 2013 #7
police state mtasselin Dec 2013 #8
You are correct - what other conclusion could be drawn from all of this - fear of any police? Hestia Dec 2013 #12
K&R DamnYankeeInHouston Dec 2013 #9
Chase Madar is a lawyer in New York. Coyotl Dec 2013 #13
please, been afraid heaven05 Dec 2013 #14
and "the War on Poverty" reddread Dec 2013 #15
NO FEAR! DeSwiss Dec 2013 #16
Please....... the_sly_pig Dec 2013 #17
... xchrom Dec 2013 #18
Your picture made me giggle... the_sly_pig Dec 2013 #36
You can put lipstick on a cop sorefeet Dec 2013 #23
true dat. the_sly_pig Dec 2013 #35
Excellent analysis. jsr Dec 2013 #20
There is no school to prison pipeline, there IS a family and community to prison pipeline. kylie5432 Dec 2013 #21
USING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS TO SOLVE SOCIAL PROBLEMS IS A WASTE. xchrom Dec 2013 #22
The child must have mental model of how to accept and respect information not self-generated sibelian Dec 2013 #29
In Denver, Occupy has been fighting the "urban camping ban" mountain grammy Dec 2013 #24
I think it was Henry Kissinger who said . . . Brigid Dec 2013 #25
Joseph Heller, Catch-22 csziggy Dec 2013 #40
Kissinger said: "Even a paranoid can have enemies." csziggy Dec 2013 #43
k/r Dawson Leery Dec 2013 #27
We've applied this model in Latin America for decades. eomer Dec 2013 #28
First they came for...... Th1onein Dec 2013 #30
As someone who has never, ever been in trouble with the law--- marew Dec 2013 #32
Would George Lucas be amazed? yuiyoshida Dec 2013 #38
big K and R bbgrunt Dec 2013 #39
Deja vu, anyone? They say that history never repeats, but it does rhyme..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #41
All this to go along with the melding of our military, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies... devils chaplain Dec 2013 #42
bump... nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #44

dchill

(38,521 posts)
2. Wearing the wrong color belt to school got one child handcuffed...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 07:27 AM
Dec 2013

God's in His heaven.
All's right with the world.
Amen.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
3. I agree with this, however
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 07:32 AM
Dec 2013

There is one devil's advocate position I have to offer. Yes, Swats are oversued, but one of the reasons they came about is because certain gangs have miltary grade firepower. Yes, there are drug gangs that will indeed start showering the streets with lead, like they did in Miami. What should be arm the cops with?

CrispyQ

(36,503 posts)
26. +1 to you & Spike.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:31 PM
Dec 2013

What a depressing article. I'm so glad I'm not trying to raise children in this culture.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
6. well
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:19 AM
Dec 2013

If the drug laws were different, if governments were not complicit in drug and arms trading all over the world. If there were better regulations on weapons (esp the militarized ones) etc. Then maybe we wouldn't need so many swat teams?




 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
11. Why do cops need to be armed to serve a simple warrant - especially if it is over some
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:11 AM
Dec 2013

bullshit the cops came up with in the first place? Not every home has a weapon but thanks to the NRA and militarization of the police, because they have one everyone must have one correct?

Do you think it is okay to arrest those boys waiting for a school bus and threatening to arrest their coach for asking why in the hell are they being arrested for in the first place? Just For Waiting For A School Bus - like it's easy to get kids to go to school in the first place. I hope everyone of them become Civil Rights Attorneys.

The arrests and 4th Amendment violations are not aberrations but the norm these days. Along with judges who sign the warrants because they are afraid of losing their jobs because they aren't "tough on crime".

mtasselin

(666 posts)
8. police state
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:46 AM
Dec 2013

The government our government, is going to use the police to control the American people, they know that an upraising is coming. All the military trucks that are coming back from our mid-east wars are going to be put to good use against us "We the People".

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
12. You are correct - what other conclusion could be drawn from all of this - fear of any police?
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:14 AM
Dec 2013

The Revolution will have to go Old School.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. Chase Madar is a lawyer in New York.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:17 AM
Dec 2013
http://www.alternet.org/authors/chase-madar

Stories by Chase Madar

Chase Madar is a lawyer in New York. He reviews and reports for the London Review of Books, Le Monde Diplomatique, the American Conservative Magazine and CounterPunch.

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reddread

(6,896 posts)
15. and "the War on Poverty"
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:23 AM
Dec 2013

all hit by the same hammer.
can we blame Bush for this?
or should we accept culpability?

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
17. Please.......
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:42 AM
Dec 2013

Are there abusive cops? Yep. Is there an abdication of responsibility by schools? Yep. Is there an abdication of responsibility by parents? Yep.

Why don't we look at lawyers that will file a lawsuit against someone for putting their socks on backwards.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
23. You can put lipstick on a cop
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:10 AM
Dec 2013

but he's still a pig. Americas enemies are right here in our own back yard. They are our protectors??

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
35. true dat.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:08 PM
Dec 2013

You can also take a very complex issue, subjectively pick out the things you don't like and blame whomever you wish. We certainly wouldn't need police whatsoever if all our brothers and sisters would simply abide by the laws of the land.

 

kylie5432

(34 posts)
21. There is no school to prison pipeline, there IS a family and community to prison pipeline.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:01 AM
Dec 2013

Cut the crap with the "doodling on desks." Misbehavior is much more severe than this...unfortunately, parents don't do the job of parenting so we have to. Wearing the 'wrong" colors? You meant to say gang colors didn't you? And throwing things on a bus can put someone's eye out just like it did a few years ago when a spitball was aimed at a kid in Northern CA. He lost his sight.
Turns out the kid throwing the spitball had numerous other problems as well as his brother and they were constant sources of problems in school with things like bullying.

Yes the militarization of the police is real but the economic segregation of schools is a worse problem because urban kids don't see models of success. They don't think of their teachers as "successes" and in fact see us put under the microscope constantly. Our superintendent in LAUSD disrespects us so why can't they? You people have no idea how bad the behavior is in the classroom and how the district send "classroom management" people who are just clueless around to teach us how to "manage our classrooms."

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
22. USING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS TO SOLVE SOCIAL PROBLEMS IS A WASTE.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:07 AM
Dec 2013

what exactly don't you understand about that?

all you did was post some hand waving distraction.

people really do come into contact with the police for far to many STUPID -- and worse -- maybe even perfectly legal reasons -- as we criminalize every thing -- from counties, municipalities and states.

it's a stupid brutal waste.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
29. The child must have mental model of how to accept and respect information not self-generated
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:36 PM
Dec 2013

or peer generated BEFORE entering school or they won't learn it. This is the job of the parent.

If the parent hasn't managed to convince the child that sometimes it needs to listen rather than react, it's probably too late by the time they reach school. Why should the child listen to a teacher if the teacher's voice means nothing?

So, the police come in. Force becomes the rule. That's the result, yes... but we can't imagine that that should be our goal.

I blame the parents, fair and square. I also blame a society that places children on little pedestals while they're costing each other their sight and, in some bullying cases, their lives. Some kids, rarely, are just totally disrespectful, selfish little pieces of shit without a single wholesome emotion in them. They can be better... but that won't happen through the police.

It's the whole thing that supports itself that's the problem, the entire system needs to bw washed out with better ideas.

I agree that one of the first things we have to get hold of is that kids aren't always little angels, but we have to be very careful how we handle that. Children don't think in neat, straight cause and effect relationships like adults, they think in big mythic categories. They aren't fully aware of themselves at that age. Putting a policeman in charge of them carries the very real risk of encouraging them to identify positively with criminals early on entirely because they perceive that's the "side" they're on.

(Also, none of that's to say that the school won't contain the occasional stupid cop. Some cops are very, very stupid.)

mountain grammy

(26,645 posts)
24. In Denver, Occupy has been fighting the "urban camping ban"
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:28 AM
Dec 2013

which makes homelessness illegal! How is that possible when there is not enough shelter for all the homeless? When the city council, led by the mayor and a coalition of downtown businesses, decide people who, for whatever reason, do not have a place to live are not allowed to sleep outside, it becomes their responsibility to find a place for these human beings to sleep.
Occupy Denver has been hammering home the plight of the homeless in Denver. The following post was on their facebook page. Please note, the police were there in force, staying warm in their vehicles.

"Anons took to the streets of Denver the night of December 5th under the call out of Help the Homeless/OpXmas. Temperatures dropped to -5 as about 30 people handed out jackets and blankets to all who needed them. Across the country the elites and their protectors are criminalizing homelessness while robbing people of their homes. "Shits fucked up. Shits fucked up and bullshit" as well as chants of "Repeal The Urban Camping Ban" and "Sleeping Is a human right" echoed throughout downtown. Our high spirits kept us warm as over 25 cop cars idled near by to "protect and serve" the shit out of us. There was an abundance of donations, one passerby even took his jacket off and handed it to an anon for donations."

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
25. I think it was Henry Kissinger who said . . .
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 12:26 PM
Dec 2013

You aren't paranoid if they really are out to get you.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
40. Joseph Heller, Catch-22
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:49 PM
Dec 2013

“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
30. First they came for......
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:54 PM
Dec 2013

Look, this is a symptom of class warfare. As a country loses it's middle class and the institutions that they once trusted crumble, there is a backlash. These militarized forces are there for just that; to put down that natural uprising of the people who know that they are being screwed. It's not going to get better; it's going to get worse.

The rich own our government. The mechanisms of democracy have failed. We are going to lose our planet, and all of humanity will become extinct if we don't do something about it.

marew

(1,588 posts)
32. As someone who has never, ever been in trouble with the law---
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:06 PM
Dec 2013

I have seen a new arrogance emerging. There have been several accounts where cops have shot innocent dogs who have done nothing aggressive. In fact one dog was running away from a policeman. I mentioned this to a cop- having two big lovable older dogs myself- one of which is blind. She asked where I saw this and I said I see it in the news, the internet, etc. The cop's response was "don't listen to the news or go on the net." Not even a denial that it is actually happening! And we see this attitude so much towards people also.
I used to trust cops- no more!
I am a senior citizen. It wasn't always like this. Times have definitely changed!

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
41. Deja vu, anyone? They say that history never repeats, but it does rhyme.....
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:20 AM
Dec 2013

It honestly seems like many the worst attributes of the Fifties and Sixties have really started to come together during this past decade or so. There may yet be another social revolution on the horizon.....but when it does happen, the short term won't be pretty, I'm afraid. You think a few renegade cops with surplus military gear are scary? They certainly can be. But what has me *really* worried is the seemingly massive resurgence of far-right militancy in the days since Obama took office; I'm afraid this is only just the beginning of their shenanigans, ladies and gents. Much worse may yet come.....

devils chaplain

(602 posts)
42. All this to go along with the melding of our military, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies...
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:21 AM
Dec 2013

This kind of thing has been done before in history, and it's not good.

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