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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 02:53 PM Dec 2013

The Case For And Against Legalizing Marijuana



Uruguay's legislature is voting today to make their country the first in the world to legally regulate the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana, while here in the U.S., state lawmakers continue to weigh arguments over whether to follow Colorado and Washington by legalizing the drug for recreational use. Here are the arguments for and against legalizing marijuana:

PRO


•Americans would get to lie back, relax, and have healthy appetites for a change
•Convenience of being able to buy pot from local Walgreens versus inconvenience of having to buy pot from parking lot of local Walgreens
•No longer have to use belt to experience high
•Fuckin’ Terry can’t charge $80 for an eighth anymore
•The FDA would be able to finally regulate the quality and safety of marijuana, just as they flawlessly do with the thousands of prescription drugs currently on the market
•Would allow us to fulfill our lifelong dream of blowing pot smoke right in a cop’s face
•Reduced stigma surrounding people with cannabis-leaf face tattoos
•We could smoke a ton of pot

CON

•No room to fit a “D” into “Legalize It” tattoo
•State prosecutors would have far fewer options for incarcerating inner-city minority youths for decades
•Would require costly rewriting of nation’s D.A.R.E. curriculum
•17-year-old Jennifer Kalpers thought pot was pretty cool. That is, until she got high and went out driving with her friends. Kalpers accidentally swerved into a telephone pole, killing her instantly. Still think smoking pot is cool?
•You and your dealer would slowly drift apart
•Scent of T-shirt from first Red Hot Chili Peppers concert would lose its mystique
•Increased unemployment among drug-sniffing dogs
•Marijuana advocates will have triumphant story to tell

http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-case-for-and-against-legalizing-marijuana,34791/
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randome

(34,845 posts)
3. The #1 con for me is the fact that putting smoke into your lungs will have detrimental effects.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 03:45 PM
Dec 2013

And the points and counterpoints have been made like this:

* You don't have to smoke it!
* Yes, but most people won't take the time to vape or bake.

* Marijuana smoke might be good for you.
* No.

* People just want to be free!
* No, they want to get high. I have no problem with people getting high but the idea that putting a weed in your mouth and setting it on fire is part of a 'back to nature' credo seems ridiculous.

Legalizing marijuana, like anything else, will not change who people fundamentally are. It is not a 'solution' to anything.

All that being said, obviously the 'War' on Drugs has cost too much money and too many people's lives. Legalize away but we should all be aware of the downsides, too.
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intaglio

(8,170 posts)
5. So don't smoke it
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 04:38 PM
Dec 2013

you can add it to foodstuffs, add it to hot chocolate or a latte, use vaporizers ...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. But I bet most people won't take the time to do that.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 04:42 PM
Dec 2013

The more immediate hit is to light up. I suppose we'll see, after maybe a few years, if there is an uptick in respiratory disease or not in those states that have legalized and/or decriminalized.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
8. That's an interesting idea but I would think the effect would be minimized.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 04:48 PM
Dec 2013

Maybe not? Anyone have experience with that?
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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
9. Your under the illusion that there is this pent up demand of men and women who given
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 04:51 PM
Dec 2013

the choice to legally use cannabis will suddenly start puffing away. This is not what legalization is about.

Legalization is about taking the millions of otherwise law abiding people who already use cannabis and keeping them out of the criminal justice system which does more harm than any smoke.

You pretend like there aren't already millions of smokers who can get cannabis already no problem and do so every day, EVEN in prison.

If this is a problem at all. Its a health problem not a criminal justice problem. Your status quo has the tragic consequences of people being murdered by the police because of it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Good point. I am not defending the status quo so much, however, as pointing out other risks.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:13 PM
Dec 2013

'Murdered by the police' doesn't even come close to the scale of murders by drug dealers, though.

Those Mexican cartels aren't going to go looking for office jobs when marijuana is more widely available. We will still need to deal with them and our home-grown versions. And that's a never-ending problem.
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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
13. Nobody serious thinks the cartels are going away because we legalize weed.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:19 PM
Dec 2013

If, however, it were legalized across the board in the US, that would put a big dent in cartel profits.

Of course, we insist on criminalizing and prohibiting other substances as well, ensuring that the cartels will have plentiful lucrative business opportunities.

And even if we legalized everything, criminals would still need to make a living, yes. But to the extent we legalize drugs, we suck the air out of the cartels' business model and the huge profits out of their pockets.

As for US gangs, I would advise more social justice-oriented policies. Those gangs don't just appear out of nothing.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
12. Why do we need to wait a few years for "an uptick in respiratory disease?"
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:14 PM
Dec 2013

Millions of us have been smoking it for decades now. You'd think the uptick would be apparent already, if there were one.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. I'm guessing there haven't exactly been controlled studies done on pot smokers, though.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:28 PM
Dec 2013

My concerns may be overblown, of course. I just think putting smoke into one's lungs should be discouraged, regardless of legality.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
15. I'm all for the science. No matter where it leads.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:31 PM
Dec 2013

And there's no doubt that cannabis can have some medicinal value beyond pain relief to cancer patients.

But where things get truly confusing is when studies and proponents try to paint it as a 'miracle' substance that can cure just about everything. Hyperbole is no one's friend.
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