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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:14 PM Mar 2012

UK Guardian: Nicolas Sarkozy courts rightwing voters with Schengen zone (open borders) threat

Nicolas Sarkozy has stepped up his courtship of hard-right voters by threatening to pull France out of the EU's borderless, passport-free Schengen zone unless Brussels clamps down on illegal immigration.

The rally was seen by many as Sarkozy's last chance to fire up his support-base in a faltering campaign for reelection. He is struggling to reverse the trend in the opinion polls which for months have consistently shown the Socialist frontrunner François Hollande easily beating him in the final presidential vote in May.

Sarkozy has been criticised by political opponents for shamelessly courting supporters of the extreme-right leader Marine Le Pen by proposing a referendum on illegal immigrants, complaining there were "too many foreigners" in France and raising the spectre of unsuspecting French people eating halal meat without knowing it.

At the rally in Villepinte, he maintained his staunchly rightwing approach, but shifted the slant to Europe. He suggested unchecked illegal immigrants would threaten European "civilisation" and "our way of life". He said that if there were no concrete results in Brussels on tightening borders within a year, he would pull France out of the Schengen system, Europe's open-border, passport-free travel regime which involves 26 countries. The free-movement of people is one of the cornerstones of a united, integrated Europe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/11/nicolas-sarkozy-french-elections-2012

Sounds like he got some of his right-wing anti-immigration talking points from the manifesto of Andres Brevik, the Norwegian mass killer.

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UK Guardian: Nicolas Sarkozy courts rightwing voters with Schengen zone (open borders) threat (Original Post) pampango Mar 2012 OP
Eating halal meat without knowing it? KamaAina Mar 2012 #1
I had a Butterball turkey at Thanksgiving Aerows Mar 2012 #2
They're what ? dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #3
A way of killing an animal for meat Aerows Mar 2012 #6
Iknow what halal is dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #7
Oh. LOL Aerows Mar 2012 #9
From memory dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #10
No, you said that in the UK butterballs were something else Aerows Mar 2012 #11
As-salaam aleykum! KamaAina Mar 2012 #4
I've always hated him... joeybee12 Mar 2012 #5
When desperate, appeal to the worst in people....... marmar Mar 2012 #8
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Eating halal meat without knowing it?
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:20 PM
Mar 2012
Quelle horreur! Does he think that a bite of halal chicken will turn you into a secret Muslin??

Many Gentiles select kosher meat (e.g. Hebrew National hot dogs) simply because they're better. To my knowledge none has surreptitiously converted to Judaism.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. I had a Butterball turkey at Thanksgiving
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:25 PM
Mar 2012

and they are halal. I couldn't tell you which direction Mecca is in, nor have I felt the urge to pray to it. I ate a kosher dill pickle at lunch, too, along with my ham sandwich

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. A way of killing an animal for meat
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:35 PM
Mar 2012

That is acceptable under Islam. I'm pretty sure the kosher dill I had for lunch was canceled out by the ham sandwich, and I'm pretty sure the Butterball was canceled out by the oyster dressing.

Wait, I don't know if oysters fall under the halal category or not. They probably do, though. If I lived in a desert I sure as hell wouldn't be eating oysters.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. Iknow what halal is
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:41 PM
Mar 2012

Ihave a feelin that what we refer to here in the UK as butterballs, having done so since the 60's, may differ from you tm ones over there.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. Oh. LOL
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 08:03 PM
Mar 2012

I can see now how my comment made absolutely no sense. Butterball is a brand of turkey here. I'd venture to say that most Americans know what they are. They are nothing like UK butterballs LOL.

That's kind of funny. I can only imagine that you thought I'd lost my mind

EDIT: On second thought, do I want to know what your version of a butterball is? I'm assuming it's not the confection.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
10. From memory
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 08:37 PM
Mar 2012

bearing in mind I've not bought one for at least 30 years - both turkeys and chickens had copious amounts of butter whatever injected/implanted into them prior to purchase. I'll have a nose around next time I'm out and report back further.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. No, you said that in the UK butterballs were something else
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:30 PM
Mar 2012

I know they are a confection. I was just wondering if they had some further meaning of which I was unaware.

marmar

(77,090 posts)
8. When desperate, appeal to the worst in people.......
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 07:50 PM
Mar 2012

...... I hope I live to see the day when this strategy no longer works for politicians.


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