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packman

(16,296 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 02:13 PM Dec 2013

I'll have some amoxicillian with the steak, please

No need to get a prescription for antibiotics from your local doc, just get a piece of beef, or some chicken from the deli

Chart giving MILLIONS-MILLIONS, I tell you, of pounds of antibiotics given to people as compared to what we have going in the food chain.

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From:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/12/1262148/-New-FDA-guidelines-on-reducing-antibiotic-misuse-in-livestock-industry-is-a-bunch-of-bologna

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packman

(16,296 posts)
2. Please elaborate
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013

butcher your own? Vegetarian? Farmer Market buyer? Special brand name? Organic only? Roadkill?

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
4. and if you are lucky enough to live in the right places
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 02:48 PM
Dec 2013

you can still find LOCAL ranchers/farmers who still offer "local-raised" beef/pork/chickens.

When we lived in Colorado, Kansas & New Mexico, we bought our beef by the hind-quarter. It was cut to our specifications and our ground beef was always 95/5 lean.. The places we chose usually ran "specials" too which (in NM) included several lbs of bacon..some chickens, and the best homemade sausage we ever ate)

It was packaged in perfect sizes for our family, and considering the waste & bones we had to trim away when buying at local grocery stores, was probably not all that much more expensive.

Yhese days we do not eat much meat, and our kids are grown, so it;s probably not in the cards for us, but for people with young families, this is still possible in a lot of places.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
6. There are local farmers all over the country, you just have to look for them. Do
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:11 PM
Dec 2013

a web search for your area using the string "Locally raised meat for xxxx", with xxxx being where you live.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
9. Yes, but I will still bet
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:45 PM
Dec 2013

that beef has had a dose of antibiotics somewhere along its life. The question posed is, "How can you be really sure?". I would like to think that there is truth-in-labeling, but I gave up that naivite when I found out Tang wasn't 100% orange juice and the government wasn't spying on the ordinary citizen.
I would love to buy organic and grassfed, but am too cynical about being ripped off on a higher priced food that isn't truly organic and grassfed.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
5. If you go on the Web, you can find small family farmers whose objective is to grow free range,
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:08 PM
Dec 2013

antibody free, steroid free, animal protein feed free meat. You just have to look. Also Costco is stocking more meat from such farmers. You just have to make an effort to look and be willing to pay a little more money.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. Unless you like salmonela with your chicken, use of antibiotics in livestock has its place
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:36 PM
Dec 2013

What the Kos article is saying is that antimicrobials should not be used for production and should instead only be used therapeutically under the direction of a vet, which is absolutely correct.

I'd wager that wherever you are getting your meat from is still using antibiotics therapeutically, and if they aren't you should probably reconsider whether you want to buy from them or not. The use of antimicrobials even in healthy animals increases the yield. Some producers have abstained from using them solely to increase production which is the responsible thing to do. That doesn't mean they aren't using them therapeutically, and they should be.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Your treatment plan is not a good one
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:44 PM
Dec 2013

Just because antimicrobials are given to livestock, doesn't mean any significant amount can be found in the end product. The government tests for antibiotic contamination and the standards are measured in parts per million unlike the dosage rates of prescription antibiotics which are measured in milligrams. The current violation rate of the standards is 0.1%, and again we're talking about parts per million vs the normal human therapeutic dosage rate which is not even in the same ballpark.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/shared/PDF/2010_Red_Book.pdf

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