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CK_John

(10,005 posts) Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:05 PM Dec 2013

What the GOP knows and Big ED doesn't. It's structural, There are no jobs.

This is why they are forgoing any extension of jobless benefits.. The GOP understand that Cyber-era productivity does not produce enough jobs for our population.

So their position is simply not to throw good money at this problem. It will not get them any votes or produce any solution.

Extent Soc Sec to those age 50, is a start.

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What the GOP knows and Big ED doesn't. It's structural, There are no jobs. (Original Post) CK_John Dec 2013 OP

Plenty of jobs that were sent over seas. If we had better laws this would not have happened. mucifer Dec 2013 #1

When robot welders put 9000 people out of 1 plant no need to blame others CK_John Dec 2013 #10

And start rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure like Cleita Dec 2013 #2

Can't do that infrastructure repair thing...it adds to the price of the property HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #6

You get what I mean. If Wall Street can't get their hands in the cookie jar they are going Cleita Dec 2013 #7

The place to start is purging the 3rd Way Bankster Budds from office. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #8

This will just have mac jobs move to contruction jobs, not a large net job number increase.. CK_John Dec 2013 #11

Don't construction jobs pay well? Also, we need to start replacing our dirty energy with Cleita Dec 2013 #12

Manufacturing is the most highly automated willl produce product but not many people jobs. CK_John Dec 2013 #13

We could borrow money from the Fed at zero interest and upaloopa Dec 2013 #3

Non-sense. The GOP opposes increased spending BECAUSE it would create jobs, not because it won't Taitertots Dec 2013 #4

"Extend Soc Sec to those age 50, is a start." djean111 Dec 2013 #5

Money is a concept that is backed up by political decisions. CK_John Dec 2013 #9

They know, they know. CK_John Dec 2013 #14

mucifer

(23,559 posts)

1. Plenty of jobs that were sent over seas. If we had better laws this would not have happened.

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:10 PM

Dec 2013

The cat's out of the bag now. The laws changed decades ago and greed is king.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)

10. When robot welders put 9000 people out of 1 plant no need to blame others

Reply to mucifer (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:40 PM

Dec 2013

It's technology not people moving.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)

2. And start rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure like

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:11 PM

Dec 2013

Obama wanted. Of course that money would go to labor and manufacturing and not the Wall Street banksters and oil billionaires which is why the Repukes don't want it.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

6. Can't do that infrastructure repair thing...it adds to the price of the property

Reply to Cleita (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:20 PM

Dec 2013

and Wall St wants to buy ALL the infrastructure and do it on the CHEAP.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)

7. You get what I mean. If Wall Street can't get their hands in the cookie jar they are going

Reply to HereSince1628 (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:25 PM

Dec 2013

to make sure nobody else does either. It's time to start bringing them down. It will take the Atty General to do it though and I don't think he will.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

8. The place to start is purging the 3rd Way Bankster Budds from office.

Reply to Cleita (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:30 PM

Dec 2013

We've got to run folks from the Progressive Wing to run in primaries and WIN there.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)

11. This will just have mac jobs move to contruction jobs, not a large net job number increase..

Reply to Cleita (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:44 PM

Dec 2013

Also construction has become highly automated.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)

12. Don't construction jobs pay well? Also, we need to start replacing our dirty energy with

Reply to CK_John (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:51 PM

Dec 2013

clean energy. That seems like more jobs to me. The steel needs to be made and parts manufactured so that will provide manufacturing jobs if our stupid Congress doesn't give the business to China.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)

13. Manufacturing is the most highly automated willl produce product but not many people jobs.

Reply to Cleita (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:59 PM

Dec 2013

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)

3. We could borrow money from the Fed at zero interest and

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:13 PM

Dec 2013

fund infrastructure repair and build new infrastructure. The idea was called infrastructure bank.
The repubs will not let it happen
All jobs are not systems related.

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)

4. Non-sense. The GOP opposes increased spending BECAUSE it would create jobs, not because it won't

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:15 PM

Dec 2013

If Obama spent money and caused a recovery, it would be the death of the Republican party for 20 years.

That said....
Turn the SS tax from a regressive tax, into a progressive tax. Remove the cap. Reduce the age to the youngest age that can be justified by the massive increase in funding.

djean111

(14,255 posts)

5. "Extend Soc Sec to those age 50, is a start."

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:16 PM

Dec 2013

That will just mean less and less money paid INTO Social Security. So, unless the cap is raised at the same time, lowering the age to 50 will either bankrupt the fund or cause payments to drop all across the board, which would be disastrous to the current recipients and not too good for the economy. As far as I can tell.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)

9. Money is a concept that is backed up by political decisions.

Reply to djean111 (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:31 PM

Dec 2013

CK_John

(10,005 posts)

14. They know, they know.

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:34 AM

Dec 2013

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