but DUers by and large tend to love them so there's not much else for me to say...

Larry Klayman is a nut. Therefore, the NSA is right.

So it's a little difficult to think this through right now.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

Authoritarians never have to think anything through...the authorities they recognize do all the thinking, and their authoritarian followers just nod their head and just do anything that those they hold in authority want them to.

It makes life very simple for authoritarians, never questioning authority, always thinking and doing what they are told to think and do. It's not my thing at all, but hey, like they say, it takes all kinds to make a world.

Right verdict.

Guy might be crazy, but the snooping is still unconstitutional.

and should be ashamed of themselves.

Pronto!

And some of the people defending the NSA are responsible for the deaths of upwards of one million innocent souls.
So you can tell me I'm making common cause with a teabagger if you'd like. But I'll turn right around and remind you that you're in bed with mass murderers. See how that works? Good.

Read my OP again.

I didn't tell you or anyone anything. All I did was copy and paste directly from the Huffington Post. I made no comment in the OP.

If you consider this to be some kind of an attack on yourself, perhaps you're taking the interwebz a little too seriously. Maybe it's time to relax and step away from the keyboard.

LOL

You're a big spy-on-everyone fan, most here know it, and I'm not going to dumb down in order to believe the dishonesty you just tried to sell. Don't make the mistake of thinking everyone is as easily-led and gullible as you'd like to think.

You also have a history of engaging in personal attacks without addressing the actual issues. I actually find it to be quite amusing.



Who knew copy and pasting an article from Huffpo without adding commentary could cause so much angst?



BTW, What was dishonest about the Huffpo article I posted? What was inaccurate?

I'm constrained from uttering that word here, but I truly wish I could tell you exactly how I feel about your efforts to bolster the domestic spying apparatus.

Oh and by the way, start posting links showing where I personally attack people without addressing the issues. My transparency page certainly doesn't back up your accusation. So go ahead and post some links showing me what you're talking about, or withdraw your accusation. You've already shown in two threads today that honesty doesn't hold any weight with you. You say things you know not to be truthful. Again, there's a word for this, but reminding you that nothing you ever say can be taken at face value will need to suffice for now, given the rules that govern the site.

Finally, I'll address the issue: that Larry Klayman sure is a piece of shit. But aren't you glad someone brought the suit (in addition to the ACLU)? Or do you believe that the suit has no merit! and if so, why not?

are not to be taken seriously.

But really, you do crack me up.

is being deliberately tailored for us folks on the left.

Or perhaps those conservative sites which shall remain nameless have their own version of this stuff?

It's team politics. Find any evidence that someone isn't on "your team" and lambast people who care about policy over personality for daring to associate with an unclean.

unclean, unclean

"This is the worst violation of constitutional rights in American history. The NSA is an outlaw organization that is out of control."


He's fucking right on that.

At a glance:

As federal judge

Leon was nominated to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia by George W. Bush on September 10, 2001, to the seat vacated by Norma Holloway Johnson. Confirmed by the Senate on February 14, 2002, he received commission five days later.

Leon was responsible for adjudicating the habeas corpus petitions of several dozen captives held at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.[1][2][3] Boumediene v. Bush, which was eventually considered by the Supreme Court, was first heard by Leon. By August 28, 2008, Leon had 24 cases assigned to him. [1]

The Associated Press reported Leon hoped to resolve those cases before the presidential inauguration in 2009 and was concerned that the public and the detainees will be barred from observing the hearings: "If it can't be done, I have great concern that these hearings will be virtually or exclusively classified, closed to the public and, I might add, to the detainees."

During a hearing on October 23, 2008 Leon commented on the ambiguity of the term "enemy combatant" and criticized Congress and the Supreme Court for "We are here today, much to my dismay, I might add, to deal with a legal question that in my judgment should have been resolved a long time ago. I don't understand, I really don't, how the Supreme Court made the decision it made and left that question open... I don't understand how the Congress could let it go this long without resolving." [2]

On November 20, Judge Leon ordered five detainees released from Guantanamo Bay Naval Base due to insufficient evidence.[4][5]

In January 2010, Judge Leon preliminarily enjoined the Food and Drug Administration from blocking the importation of electronic cigarettes.[6]

On November 7, 2011, Judge Leon issued a preliminary injunction against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for ordering graphic images on cigarette packs. On February 29, 2012, Judge Leon's final ruling held that the graphic images & statements violated the commercial right to free speech, citing the first amendment of the constitution.

On January 2, 2013, Judge Leon ruled that a memo linking the Palestinian Authority to a suicide bombing that killed two American teenagers and one Israeli teen be returned to the PA or destroyed. The memo had been inadvertently turned over to attorneys for the families of the victims in a lawsuit over the killings. In a motion for a stay of Judge Leon's order, lawyers for the plaintiffs said if they return or destroy the memo, "this critically important evidence of murder will likely be lost forever.” [7]

On December 16, 2013, Judge Leon ruled that the NSA's bulk collection of Americans' telephony records likely violated the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, though he stayed enforcement of his injunction pending appeal to the D.C. Circuit.[8].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Leon

Is he closely affiliated with the birther movement? Does he have a ballerina girlfriend and boxes in his garage? All else is irelevent.

was focusing on the attorney. The federal judge is, in my mind, the relevant individual.

Therefore the judge and his ruling is irrelevant. It's the bad things, so we should not like this at all.

Another fake GOP scandal.

This case needs to go to the Supremes to find out exactly what kind of country we are, and whether the Constitution has any meaning anymore.

This case brought "Standing" into play...

And their may be more cases to follow.

These will be the "acid tests" on whether the America we were taught existed, still does.

true.

Not sure where you're coming from here.

I'm glad to see a judge stand up for our constitutional rights, though I'm sure the ruling will be overturned soon.

deals. Hm. Why would that be?

Or something.