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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 05:02 AM Dec 2013

NSA Intercepted Children’s Letters To Santa

FORT MEADE, MD – The National Security Agency routinely intercepts children’s letters to Santa, internal agency documents have revealed.
The documents describe an operation known as MILK COOKIES, based out of Fort Meade and run in conjunction with the U.S. Postal Service. COOKIES is the interception of the letters while MILK feeds them through a complex series of algorithms to spot any hidden messages.
Agency director Gen. Keith Alexander had previously testified to Congress in 2011 that the NSA would occasionally collect letters addressed to Santa, but insisted that it was totally accidental and that no one was actually reading or storing them.
The NSA is prohibited from directly monitoring American citizens under both Executive Order 12333 and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. However, because the letters are addressed to the North Pole, which falls outside of U.S. territory, they are considered potential foreign intelligence signals which the NSA is authorized to intercept.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, a former senior administration official defended the program: ”We’re only looking for any unusual presents, like children who ask Santa for pressure cookers, large amounts of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, hyzadrine rocket fuel, things like that. I mean a six-year old with a hammer is bad enough; just try to imagine that same six-year old with a truck bomb.”



Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/12/nsa-letters-to-santa/#ixzz2oC0OIfYa

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NSA Intercepted Children’s Letters To Santa (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 OP
Where's our anti-Snowden crowd? Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #1
probably giggling iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 #8
They are funny! Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #9
And often right. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #12
That's part of the problem RC Dec 2013 #16
Not what I meant, obviously. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #18
You do realize how little sense you are making. RC Dec 2013 #19
You really need to get outta your bubble, my friend. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #20
Thank you for confirming my suspicions. RC Dec 2013 #23
Appreciating satire. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #13
How much is Santa paying you!? Dash87 Dec 2013 #21
I thought it was possible to be anti-Snowden and still have problems with NSA? KittyWampus Dec 2013 #22
This describes me to a T. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #24
This looks like satire to me, TBH.....=) nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #2
No sure Santa would be willing to share his sled's hydrazine fuel anyhow sibelian Dec 2013 #3
Yes the Dufflebag is a Satire site Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #6
And people get paid for this? Paper Roses Dec 2013 #4
Woooosh!!!! nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #14
Loved it! Hilarious! JDPriestly Dec 2013 #5
Indeed. DuffelBlog is the military version of the onion. Love it The Straight Story Dec 2013 #7
Frankly, it wouldn't be surprising. "Collect it all" and all that... nt Pholus Dec 2013 #10
Come on. Please. It's the Defense Intelligence Agency that does that. jmowreader Dec 2013 #11
Lil Johnny and Susie are potential terrorists. lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #15
Damn them and their war on xmas!!! SummerSnow Dec 2013 #17
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
18. Not what I meant, obviously.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 11:38 AM
Dec 2013

Oh, and btw, you're wrong about that as well, as the majority of Snowden supporters that I've come across, outside DU, have been pretty well to the right themselves, especially the Paulite & Alex Jones types; many of the rightists who claim to be anti-Snowden are faking it and those who aren't are only saving face.

So far, most of the truly valid & forthcoming detractors have been on the left, mainly The People's View, etc.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
19. You do realize how little sense you are making.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:03 PM
Dec 2013

It is the Conservatives, those on the parnoid Right that support the surveillance state and are upset that Snowden has, and is still exposing the extent of the wrong doing of the NSA, constitutionally and other wise. Helping our enemies by exposing what we are doing around the world and all that crap. WE are that enemy the NSA is spying on. All of us, everywhere.

It is those of us against the surveillance state, that support what Snowden has done. We are mostly on the Left, i.e., Liberals. As per the 4th Amendment of the US Constitution, we Liberals strongly object to the invasion of our privacy. To be secure in our communications. The being OK with the wholesale, unconstitutional invasion of our privacy, is a paranoid Conservative mime.

Article (IV)

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
20. You really need to get outta your bubble, my friend.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:09 PM
Dec 2013

Because you obviously don't have the full story.

To be fair, some on the right who do support Snowden(and there are many!), are mainly happy that he, in their eyes, struck a blow against that "Kenyun Soshulist Marxist Muslum&quot tm) in the White House, and not necessarily caring about the NSA's activities(at least those done before Obama, anyhow), but it still does count. Frankly, given that Snowden is a Paulite himself, one can legitimately wonder if these same types of thoughts may have been running thru his own head.....it wouldn't surprise me one bit, sadly.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
23. Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:30 PM
Dec 2013

So what Snowden did was bad, because he is a Paulite himself? Therefore we should content ourselves with living under a Total Awareness, Authoritarian government? And do nothing, because Snowden was a Paulite? I don't think so.

You do realize you are posting a Right-wing talking point, designed to denigrate Snowden and what he did? Really.
I don't care what Edward Snowden's politics are. It is immaterial anyway. He is a real Patriot. He was true to his oath to uphold the Constitution. What he did in exposing the extent of the unlawful and unconstitutional data collection and spying the NSA is doing, took real courage. He got the ball rolling to rein in the reach of the NSA. How is that not a good thing?

For your viewing pleasure:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017165335

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
21. How much is Santa paying you!?
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:12 PM
Dec 2013

Obvious paid poster. How many chocolate chip cookies do you get per post?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
22. I thought it was possible to be anti-Snowden and still have problems with NSA?
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:13 PM
Dec 2013

Of course ideologues can't see anything but black and white.

I also have to chuckle since you took this seriously.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
24. This describes me to a T.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:00 PM
Dec 2013

Yes, I don't like Snowden. Not at all. But the NSA *is* in serious need of reform, and much of it. I think most of us can agree on that, at least, right?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
6. Yes the Dufflebag is a Satire site
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:06 AM
Dec 2013

but considering the NSA played World of Warcraft I thought its not beyond their waste of taxpayer's money.

LOL

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
7. Indeed. DuffelBlog is the military version of the onion. Love it
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 06:09 AM
Dec 2013

Always good for a laugh, and probably ahead of the times like the onion is on some things.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
11. Come on. Please. It's the Defense Intelligence Agency that does that.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:44 AM
Dec 2013

NSA tracks the movement of Santa's sleigh across the sky, and the NORAD guys stand on alert ready to scramble if he enters restricted airspace. It's a tradition.

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