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MrYikes

(720 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:36 PM Dec 2013

So the repubs call for a single payer health plan....

just in time for the 2016 elections and thereafter get dems to block it. So it costs them nothing, but leaves them looking good. Therefore to block this, the dems need to advance the single payer idea first, but with the idea that it will succeed.

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So the repubs call for a single payer health plan.... (Original Post) MrYikes Dec 2013 OP
Probability zero. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #1
Many Dems have been calling for this all along. So they would welcome it, pnwmom Dec 2013 #2
LMFAO... Republicans do something right? SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #3
the dems would block it MrYikes Dec 2013 #5
Yeah.. you failed to mention the Elimination of SS in your OP SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #7
Okay you win, I'll remain quiet. nt MrYikes Dec 2013 #8
Bend back around to sanity? No, they'll keep finding ways to be more regressive. TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #4
Move the Overton Window to the Left Bortman33 Dec 2013 #6
Bwahahahaha!!! Now that's funny. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #9
Not gonna happen. politichew Dec 2013 #10
The repubs propose single payer edhopper Dec 2013 #11

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
2. Many Dems have been calling for this all along. So they would welcome it,
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:09 PM
Dec 2013

not try to block it. It's only the Rethugs who are knee-jerk obstructionists.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
3. LMFAO... Republicans do something right?
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:10 PM
Dec 2013

Yeah when hell freezes over. And why would Democrats block it? Just because Republicans proposed it? No, that's how they do business.

The Republican platform is going to be the same as it's been for years:

"If Democrats get elected it's going to be the end of America as we know it!" Whine, bitch, cry, rinse and spin and start all over..

MrYikes

(720 posts)
5. the dems would block it
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 09:49 PM
Dec 2013

if the repubs attached a rider to eliminate social security. The bill would not pass.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
7. Yeah.. you failed to mention the Elimination of SS in your OP
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 10:09 PM
Dec 2013

But since you are just making shit up you could also say the Dems would block it if The Repubs "attached a rider" to legalize slavery.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
4. Bend back around to sanity? No, they'll keep finding ways to be more regressive.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:01 PM
Dec 2013

Which is maybe the #1 reason Turd Wayism is stubbornly stupid, the tactics don't have the supposedly desired outcomes. The TeaPubliKlans aren't forced to the middle nor are they pushed over the edge of the political spectrum, instead we have acted as willing accomplice in moving the entire political spectrum to the right and despite all the phony ass talk about "the big tent" the very same folks work tirelessly to cut off the ideas and ideals that don't play well with the corporate right. The "tent" is only permitted to grow to the right.

It is marketing meant to cut off arguments about failing to serve the "small people", pithy marketing speak for shut the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

 

Bortman33

(102 posts)
6. Move the Overton Window to the Left
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 10:08 PM
Dec 2013

Here's a start

FDR's 2nd Bill of Rights ~

“Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.”

 

politichew

(230 posts)
10. Not gonna happen.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 11:43 AM
Dec 2013

And the fools that keep telling pollsters they disapprove of the ACA because it's not liberal enough don't deserve it.

If the ACA fails, people will distrust government from meddling in health care for years to come. Good luck getting single-payer then!

So single-payer supporters (like me) need to suck it up and start defending this law as the great progressive accomplishment it is because it's the reality and will be for years to come and stop pushing for replacing it with a plan that is more liberal. That would destroy this Democratic president's legacy and set us back for years in championing government's ability to do things.

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