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neverforget

(9,436 posts)
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 02:19 AM Dec 2013

Oil, grain trains put squeeze on Amtrak

Oil, grain trains put squeeze on Amtrak
Empire Builder route to Northwest experiences delays
WASHINGTON -- Freight congestion has caused massive delays and even cancellations of a popular Amtrak train in recent months, a situation that could worsen as one of the nation's largest rail companies plans to increase shipments of fossil fuels on much of the route.

The Empire Builder, which runs from Chicago to Seattle and Portland, carries more passengers than any of Amtrak's long-distance trains, 543,000 in 2012.

But it also recorded the worst on-time performance in Amtrak's nationwide network in November, at 44.5 percent. Any number below 80 percent is considered substandard under a law Congress passed in 2008.

Amtrak took the drastic step this month of canceling five Empire Builder trains in one week, three eastbound and two westbound, between St. Paul, Minn., and Spokane. Delays in North Dakota and Montana were causing an imbalance of equipment and personnel at each end of the scenic, 2,000-mile run across the country's northern tier.

"Crews have to go off-shift. Equipment has to be serviced," said Marc Magliari, an Amtrak spokesman. "We thought it best to stand down."

Currently there isn't enough track for all the oil and coal trains that the railroads want to transport to the Northwest. It's going to take awhile for them to build enough new track to meet the demand. And that's not taking into consideration the environmental consequences of an oil spill into the Columbia River OR the climate considerations.

Petitions drive oil terminal comments
As state officials begin to review more than 31,000 comments on a proposed oil terminal in Vancouver, the task may not be as daunting as it sounds.

That's because thousands of those comments are identical -- form letters copied word for word, with only the name on the bottom changed. Of the comments released by the state Energy Facility Site Evaluation Council so far, the vast majority are from outside Vancouver. An avalanche of names came from all over the country, most opposed.

The tactic isn't new. Form letters and online petitions are one way well-organized environmental groups have mobilized their supporters in huge numbers against fossil fuel projects in the Northwest and elsewhere. A planned coal export facility in Longview generated more than 200,000 comments earlier this year.

A major player in both efforts was the Sierra Club, a national advocacy group with offices in Portland. Field organizer Laura Stevens said about 5,400 people from Washington and Oregon used the organization's petition to submit their comments on the oil terminal. But she dismissed the notion that duplicated comments take anything away from their value.
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Oil, grain trains put squeeze on Amtrak (Original Post) neverforget Dec 2013 OP
Big coal is trying to sell as fast as they can offshore. Archaic Dec 2013 #1
Tax payers will be left with the cleanup bills neverforget Dec 2013 #5
BNSF, UP, CSX don't give a damn about passengers, Ron Green Dec 2013 #2
whenever I see CSX, onethatcares Dec 2013 #4
Big money is in shipping goods, not people. ConcernedCanuk Dec 2013 #3

Archaic

(273 posts)
1. Big coal is trying to sell as fast as they can offshore.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 02:38 AM
Dec 2013

I know of one mine that was sold because the original owner couldn't ship the coal to the coast cheap enough. These guys were one of the biggest mining companies, and they never started any of their reclamation projects to return the land to close to prior form. So big hole in the ground, no plan, no schedule, no budget.

I know of another one about to close because the city they're near won't let them blast anymore due to noise and dust.

So dig faster, harder, and get it out of the country. Take the money, and leave the mess.

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
2. BNSF, UP, CSX don't give a damn about passengers,
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 04:07 AM
Dec 2013

and they own the tracks. Transportation is just like media: when the Free Market does it, lots of money flows but people are screwed.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
3. Big money is in shipping goods, not people.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 07:27 AM
Dec 2013

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Cp Rail was given what today is worth Trillions of dollars of real estate ( 25 million acres) to build their railway.

Our forefathers wrote in the deal that CP must provide passenger service for 100 years, assuming it would be renegotiated at that time.

WRONG

CP Rail dropped passenger service 101 years later (in Canada anyways) around 1986.

Just recently all remaining passenger rail service was eliminated to/from the nearby city of North Bay, or anywhere further north. - bus only now.

I rode the train from North Bay to Toronto and back in 2007 - passenger service stopped a year or two after that.

Sad that - nicer trip (not the actual ride though) as the railway goes through many pristine areas - lots of scenery through undeveloped areas - backyards of tiny towns off the beaten path, etc.

Bus is just roaring down the highway like everyone else. Maybe it's just as well,

we seem to be having a hard time keeping our trains on the track . . .

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