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OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:52 AM Dec 2013

If this is true (as presented), then shame on MSNBC (Updated)

Last edited Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:02 PM - Edit history (2)

Complete story at: http://omg.yahoo.com/news/msnbc-host-makes-fun-mitt-romney-black-grandson-023826137.html

MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry concluded the “What’s So Funny About 2013?” segment of her Sunday show with a chorus of laughter at the black grandson pictured in former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney’s family Christmas photo. The chuckles were directed at baby Kieran – who was adopted by Romney’s son Ben and his wife Andelynne in September.

“One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just isn’t the same,” panelist Pia Glenn offered as a caption for the photo, which the Romneys tweeted on Christmas Eve. (Lyrics of the original Sesame Street song are, “One of these things just doesn’t belong.”)

“And that little baby, front and center, would be the one,” Glenn said.

Comedian Dean Obeidallah joked that the baby is a token.


I have no love of the Romney's. Between the 47% comment, the offshore bank accounts, and "Stop it! This is hard!", I have no reason to believe they'd have been anything other than a disaster in the White House. That said, they are a racially blended family. There is nothing shameful or wrong with that, and I don't think they should be made ffun of for that reason.

On edit: I've now seen the segment. As I state downthread, I don't feel it was malicious, but also feel they should have stayed away from the whole "one of these things is not like the other" aspect.

Update: As several downthread have commented. Melissa Harris Perry has apologized to the Romneys. So, no "Shame on MSNBC" -- just a dumb remark, which she admitted was dumb and apologized.
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If this is true (as presented), then shame on MSNBC (Updated) (Original Post) OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 OP
I felt the same whe when I read about it in another post. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #1
I didn't watch the show this weekend, but MSNBC posts their segments online. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #2
Because I didn't know they post all their segments online OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #11
this is from Yahoo people.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #3
I agree. That is a pathetic remark to make Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #4
Video: Common Sense Party Dec 2013 #5
Thanks! OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #8
It's not as bad as the write up suggests BainsBane Dec 2013 #16
Now that I've seen the actual segment--- zentrum Dec 2013 #18
Video / article link below Tx4obama Dec 2013 #6
..and thanks! OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #9
OFFS-- That's a humor segment and nobody hit on... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #7
I saw the segment. It wasn't malicious, but they shouldn't have gone there. OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #10
When the kids are placed front and center, they don't get a pass as political targets. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #26
I think that's a razor's edge topic OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #34
You've forgotten the vitriole from Flush Lintball WowSeriously Dec 2013 #39
It doesn't have to be malicious to be in incredibly poor taste. WillowTree Dec 2013 #13
Commented in the other thread, but that is really gross LittleBlue Dec 2013 #12
I saw the segment. It wasn't offensive. Maybe it's because it was the Romneys. Cleita Dec 2013 #14
Agreed. SoapBox Dec 2013 #15
and lots of rich white folks go out of their way to adopt children of different races SoCalDem Dec 2013 #20
They made a child the punchline of a meanspirited joke. You don't find that offensive? WillowTree Dec 2013 #21
I found it offensive. 3Stones Dec 2013 #25
I didn't see that and I don't think MHP would go there. Cleita Dec 2013 #41
It's yahoo and is out of context. EC Dec 2013 #17
Harris-Perry apologized OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #35
After the right's defense of Phil Robertson, FactBasedLifeform Dec 2013 #19
damn straight ZRT2209 Dec 2013 #22
+1000 BlueIndyBlue Dec 2013 #38
It was tacky and offensive... onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #23
Offensive .. yes DustyJoe Dec 2013 #29
Typical "bash MSNBC" clickbait. alp227 Dec 2013 #24
Thanks. Your assessment seems to be the most correct one. AND MHP apologized nt stevenleser Dec 2013 #31
I believe in treating others as they treat others. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #27
People do realize that MHP is African American and taught African American studies Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #28
On an unrelated topic, Yahoo needs to moderate their comments better OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #36
Yes they do. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #40
Melissa Harris Perry onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #30
here, G_j Dec 2013 #32
Probably not Sweet Freedom Dec 2013 #33
If MHP is suspend and/or fired, I will turn of MSNBC. Dawson Leery Dec 2013 #37

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
2. I didn't watch the show this weekend, but MSNBC posts their segments online.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:56 AM
Dec 2013

Why don't you go look what was said before you start a thread?

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
11. Because I didn't know they post all their segments online
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:27 AM
Dec 2013

Jeebus, I can barely find stuff on YouTube.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
4. I agree. That is a pathetic remark to make
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:02 AM
Dec 2013

Especially with all of the truly laughable things of 2013 to choose from.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
16. It's not as bad as the write up suggests
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:08 AM
Dec 2013

Though there is a certain irony of her ending with a teaser about an upcoming segment called "Was that racist?"

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
18. Now that I've seen the actual segment---
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:21 AM
Dec 2013

...it seems to me that the writer-up far exaggerates both the content and the meaning of what was said.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. OFFS-- That's a humor segment and nobody hit on...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:19 AM
Dec 2013

the family for having a black kid. It was, actually, all in fun with no malice intended.

Best line-- "Looks like the Republican Party."

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
10. I saw the segment. It wasn't malicious, but they shouldn't have gone there.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:26 AM
Dec 2013

IMO, the kids are (in the political sense) non combatants. Leave em alone.

 

WowSeriously

(343 posts)
26. When the kids are placed front and center, they don't get a pass as political targets.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:46 AM
Dec 2013

And considering the racist history of the MORmON religion, I fear for that child's psyche.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
34. I think that's a razor's edge topic
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:09 PM
Dec 2013

The Obamas campaigned with Sasha and Malia in-tow, but have made clear (in particular -- Michelle has made clear) that the press is to keep their distance -- which for the most part, they have done. Chelsea Clinton is a target now because she is a grown woman in the public spotlight. As a child in the White House, she stayed largely out of the public eye. Ditto the Bush girls until they chose to become public figures. Untiil this child is of age to become a public figure, comments should pretty much be limited to "isn't he adoreable."

 

WowSeriously

(343 posts)
39. You've forgotten the vitriole from Flush Lintball
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:28 PM
Dec 2013

Back during the Clinton years. He was unkind to Chelsea.

Certainly if their only appearances are on stage at conventions or primary victory celebrations, then fine.

But if the children make their way to campain liturature or commercials to showcase what an All American family looks like, then the die is cast as far as I am concerned.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
12. Commented in the other thread, but that is really gross
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:28 AM
Dec 2013

Laughing at adopted people because of their different race isn't cool.

You just don't use the race of an adopted kid for laughs. Kids are off-limits as far as I'm concerned.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. I saw the segment. It wasn't offensive. Maybe it's because it was the Romneys.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:49 AM
Dec 2013

I just kept thinking about the dog and other things Mitt and Mrs. had said over the years and felt really sorry for that child to be raised in that family. Sometimes money, privilege and whiteness aren't everything.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
20. and lots of rich white folks go out of their way to adopt children of different races
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:26 AM
Dec 2013

There's no pesky Mom showing up a few years later demanding her baby back... and it's an outwardly altruistic thing to do too...especially for a politician or future politician..

Surrogacy or private adoptions can sometimes go very awry..especially with super-wealthy families that could be extorted.

In any case, that little kid will be very lucky to have privilege, and will surely have a good life..so the end result is good

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
41. I didn't see that and I don't think MHP would go there.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:14 PM
Dec 2013

I think you are reading more into it than what was intended.

EC

(12,287 posts)
17. It's yahoo and is out of context.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:24 AM
Dec 2013

Look up the clip and watch it. The whole show was with comedians and was a comedy show for the holidays.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
35. Harris-Perry apologized
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:11 PM
Dec 2013

I watched the MSNBC segment. I thought the comment was in poor taste, but she said she was sorry, and that should suffice. It wasn't malicious. JMHO. YMMV.

 
19. After the right's defense of Phil Robertson,
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:24 AM
Dec 2013

us on the left owe no one a fucking apology for anything.

Ever again.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
23. It was tacky and offensive...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:35 AM
Dec 2013

Beneath the quality of a Melissa Harris Perry show.

Mitt Romney is a walking joke. Adopted babies aren't useful pawns for making jabs at useless politicians. She used poor judgement. She should have anticipated that most reasonable people consider children off limits.

Mitt Romney didn't adopt this child. His son and his son's wife did. Typically, it takes a special kind of person to adopt a child, IMHO. It takes a schmuck to turn it into a cheap joke.

She simply didn't need to do it. It was unnecessary. And, it wasn't funny to me. Adoption is something to be encouraged. People who decide to adopt children from different backgrounds often have a real challenges ahead of them. It isn't something most people take lightly. In fact, you're often automatically placed in a unique group of people who the world gives permission to turn around and stare at when you spend time together as a family. What did her show do? They did exactly that on a grand scale. We could say Romney did it when he tweeted a picture of his family for the holidays. Oh...but the matching khaki family usually tweets a photo. So, it should've been a routine thing when this photo turned up. Since as liberals, this is supposedly the world we want. One in which, neither color nor gender gets a double take.

I'm in a multiracial family. In fact, so is Melissa Harris Perry. The fact that Mitt Romney happens to be in a sucky political party that has only bad ideas shouldn't mean that now his new grandson is fodder for jokes...justified because hey, it was "funny". And, since Mitt Romney's a republican, its acceptable.

In fact, here's another picture Melissa Harris Perry could have asked a caption for.



Most multiracial families want the world to see them simply as a family. These children's mother didn't run for President. Heck, it's not unusual for other family members to not even share the same politics as their spouses, parents, in-laws, etc. Although, that shouldn't even be relevant in this current situation.

As I said...tacky. I don't think she expected it to go this far. I'm sure it wasn't her intent. But, yeah, I found it offensive.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
29. Offensive .. yes
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:53 AM
Dec 2013

I somehow doubt that they would make fun of Sandra Bullock’s adopted child in the same manner.

Children should never be political or comedic fodder for trashy entertainment yuks.

alp227

(32,026 posts)
24. Typical "bash MSNBC" clickbait.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:38 AM
Dec 2013

This is mindless click-on-me, click-on-me crap from Yahoo which often mirrors articles from The Blaze or Daily Caller (but this one was from an entertainment site LA Wrap). The click-on-me article has misleading content most of the time. This panel that MHP had seems to be a comedic look at the year in political news. And one of the panelists (Dean Obedeliah I think) had a darkly comedic but valid point about the "diversity of the Republican Party" in talking about the photo. You'll hear much worse on Fox News.

And that article has 3000+ comments. Of course let me bring out the internet political comment generator:

"libtards"

"MHP is a bitch"

"Liberals are sooooo tolerant"

"libs are racist"

Yep there's gotta be a cycle of all that in the comments! Really though it is HARD defending MSNBC to right wingers who'll NEVER change their minds.

 

WowSeriously

(343 posts)
27. I believe in treating others as they treat others.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:49 AM
Dec 2013

The Romney Clan is racist. So they have earned the privilege of being treated racially.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
28. People do realize that MHP is African American and taught African American studies
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:53 AM
Dec 2013

at Princeton, right?

How in the hell can she be racist against her own race?

This is in reply to the vile comments section on Yahoo.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
36. On an unrelated topic, Yahoo needs to moderate their comments better
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:15 PM
Dec 2013

..and advertisers need to let them know that. Their comment pages are always vile (even in sections like "Finance&quot

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
40. Yes they do.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:31 PM
Dec 2013

I never venture in there unless something like this comes up on DU. The comments section is a cesspool of everything that is ugly in America.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
30. Melissa Harris Perry
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:05 AM
Dec 2013

Melissa Harris Perry has apologized. Her apology was classy and hopefully will put this to rest quickly. And, to my mind, when people realize their own behavior is indefensible, I need not waste my time or effort trying to defend it.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
32. here,
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:14 AM
Dec 2013
http://www.businessinsider.com/melissa-harris-perry-romney-family-black-grandchild-apology-2013-12

@MHarrisPerry
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I am sorry. Without reservation or qualification. I apologize to the Romney family. #MHPapology

Melissa Harris-Perry ✔ @MHarrisPerry
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I work by guiding principle that those who offend do not have the right to tell those they hurt that they r wrong for hurting. #MHPapology

Melissa Harris-Perry ✔ @MHarrisPerry
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As black child born into large white Mormon family I feel familiarity w/ Romney family pic & never meant to suggest otherwise. #MHPapology
8:26 AM - 31 Dec 2013


Melissa Harris-Perry ✔ @MHarrisPerry
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I apologize to all families built on loving transracial adoptions who feel I degraded their lives or choices. #MHPapology
8:27 AM - 31 Dec 2013

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
33. Probably not
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:29 PM
Dec 2013

Sarah Palin linked to an article about it and has Facebook "outraged" about the "liberal media" and how mean dems are. And they are all commenting on how wonderful and accepting republicans are and god bless her, Romney and Phil Robertson.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
37. If MHP is suspend and/or fired, I will turn of MSNBC.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:15 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/16054-free-speech-phil-robertson-vs-melissa-harris-perry

"Regardless of my personal opinion, this is at least a defensible position. A person may or may not find something offensive, regardless of the objective fact that it offended others, and so not see the need for disciplinary action. Many instead invoked Robertson’s free speech rights. This is an untenable position from any angle. No one was sanctioned by the government, so no rights were violated. However, A&E also has free speech rights, employer rights, and contract rights, which precious few conservatives stood up for at the time.

It became even more clear Monday how transparent some of these arguments were. On MSNBC, Melissa Harris Perry and her show’s panel made fun of a family portrait of Mitt Romney and all his grandchildren, including an adopted infant who happens to be black. Twitter was set ablaze. Within hours, Fox News hosts were questioning her ongoing employment, and the RNC’s Communications Director directly called for her suspension. I’m guessing these people had a different opinion about Phil Robertson’s situation. Previous examples of this disparate treatment include Martin Bashir and the Dixie Chicks."
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