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CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:19 AM Dec 2013

When did eyeglass frames get so frickin' expensive?!



I remember when contact lenses were more expensive than eyeglasses but it seems it's changed. My insurance pays up to $175 for a pair of frames. You would think, no problem finding frames for that amount, right? Nope. Most of the frames were at least $200 & the ones I finally settled on were $250. $250 for $5 worth of plastic & metal. Add high index lenses for my incredibly myopic vision & I'm pushing $500 for a pair of glasses. What a racket.


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When did eyeglass frames get so frickin' expensive?! (Original Post) CrispyQ Dec 2013 OP
I get my frames and lenses from zennioptical.com NOVA_Dem Dec 2013 #1
wife just got some from Zenni - pretty cheap and looked nice. rurallib Dec 2013 #4
i got some great hipster looking frames for $13. NOVA_Dem Dec 2013 #6
I will also endorse Zenni -- good prices, frames are nice, service good. nt Nay Dec 2013 #20
Another vote for Zenni Optical. MicaelS Dec 2013 #48
+1 for zenni; but check frame size Politicub Dec 2013 #87
Zenni!! +1 Rectangle Dec 2013 #111
That's who I use. I've got a pair of prescription sunglasses from them that I bought a few years ago WhollyHeretic Dec 2013 #24
Buying prescription sunglasses was the nicest thing I did for myself! CrispyQ Dec 2013 #53
I hate my prescription sunglasses dickthegrouch Dec 2013 #77
Progressive lens sunglasses ... earthside Jan 2014 #127
I am another Zenni fan etherealtruth Dec 2013 #39
Yet another happy zenni customer - buy a spare pair! eggplant Dec 2013 #66
Frames on-line drkedjr Dec 2013 #108
They have a version of Ray Ban's Clubmasters!!!!! ryan_cats Jan 2014 #132
If you don't have vision insurance these days, you can only afford BC frames as we stevenleser Dec 2013 #2
In the Marine Corps . . . Brigid Dec 2013 #114
Same in the USAF. stevenleser Jan 2014 #136
60 Minutes did a story on this wercal Dec 2013 #3
Didn't know that. Good post. Thanks. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #12
saw that story NJCher Dec 2013 #18
You have to be careful with Wal Mart wercal Dec 2013 #103
I didn't realize that. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #19
Vuarnet.... when was the last time ... OneBlueDotBama Dec 2013 #30
i have 5 pairs of Vuarnet sunglasses because I love them so much. They are hard to find now TeamPooka Dec 2013 #73
But why should we believe 60 Minutes? Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #94
Gotta love that free market shit. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #100
The Monopoly is back in a lot of Consumer Products and Services warrant46 Jan 2014 #135
I fear that my $15 readers will stop working some day and I'll have to buy real glasses. tridim Dec 2013 #5
I bought 4 pairs of 3 doller readers AngryAmish Dec 2013 #21
I'm fortunate enough to have good eyesight save for Walgreens x175 readers. catbyte Dec 2013 #62
I'm still on 1x which I assume means my vision is pretty decent. tridim Dec 2013 #84
I'm the same way. I started out at 1x 5 years ago, and my eyesight has deteriorated to where catbyte Dec 2013 #97
I've done the "2 for $80" thing at JCPenny Optical. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #63
I buy all my reading glasses off of ebay n2doc Dec 2013 #67
On the high-index lenses frazzled Dec 2013 #7
Ditto. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #14
My wife is -8 and -6.75 kristopher Dec 2013 #60
My frames cost $50. I don't want or need fashionable. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #8
Me either but just to get ones that won't fall apart simply from sitting on DebJ Jan 2014 #120
My frames have lasted me 5 years and two sets of lenses. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #121
Zennioptical and costco cally Dec 2013 #9
Yep. Scurrilous Dec 2013 #16
I second Costco. Lex Dec 2013 #34
Glasses mimi85 Dec 2013 #59
Slickdeals.net is great for finding bargains bananas Dec 2013 #106
As if the insurance money were just gravy and we end up paying retail anyway. gtar100 Dec 2013 #10
This. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #17
Word... Tace Dec 2013 #82
I'm very nearsighted, too. kcr Dec 2013 #11
I love my high index lenses & would not go back, CrispyQ Dec 2013 #22
Costco has great glasses and you can definitely get a nice pair of glasses... Walk away Dec 2013 #13
I got expensive (by Costco standards) eyeglasses 7 years ago emsimon33 Jan 2014 #118
They got expensive when insurance started covering them. former9thward Dec 2013 #15
+100 lunasun Dec 2013 #78
yep frylock Dec 2013 #83
Yes that is part of the problem. If your insurance pays for your frames, why rhett o rick Dec 2013 #101
warby parker spanone Dec 2013 #23
Wow! A home try on program. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #25
Big fan of this company. cbayer Dec 2013 #65
Love them! Agschmid Dec 2013 #93
Huge fan of Warby Parker style Patiod Jan 2014 #124
When someone decided to get the fashion Skidmore Dec 2013 #26
Try online A Little Weird Dec 2013 #27
Their selection is good & their prices are incredible! CrispyQ Dec 2013 #28
I second eyebuydirect. Great if you're dead broke Patiod Jan 2014 #126
Getting Glasses These Days Is Like Buying A Car With All The Options Available.... global1 Dec 2013 #29
When you wear glasses all day, every day, some of those lens options are nice. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #33
I got all of that at ZenniOptical.com for 120 bucks demosincebirth Dec 2013 #47
I paid $40 for my current pair. alc Dec 2013 #31
The eyeglass frame monopoly is at work. There was a show on tee vee about this. MADem Dec 2013 #32
Another vote for ZenniOptical... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #35
SCAM... someone is making a killing... I would by frames... my current ones are Dior JCMach1 Dec 2013 #36
Where did you go, JCMach1? I thought you were in Florida?? loudsue Dec 2013 #85
Yeah, worked in Dubai the last 10 years... back in Florida now JCMach1 Dec 2013 #113
Dubai? Ten years??? Welcome home! loudsue Jan 2014 #115
exactly went from $$$ to no $ JCMach1 Jan 2014 #131
Very interesting. Are you glad you went? loudsue Jan 2014 #133
of course, i traveled everywhere and every chance i got... JCMach1 Jan 2014 #134
Luxottica. jsr Dec 2013 #37
Wow! I learned a lot in this thread. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #42
Like the hospital $1000 toothbrush story ErikJ Dec 2013 #98
Designer frames in the UK are c. $180 dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #38
I hate the way glasses are marketed as a fashion accessory... MindPilot Dec 2013 #44
They're stylish if you want them to be. MicaelS Dec 2013 #54
My eyes disappear behind my very myopic lenses, so I like a nice frame to bring attention to them. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #55
Except that glasses actually do help you to see, while a wheelchair doesn't help you walk MNBrewer Dec 2013 #68
But they are such a prominent feature of one's appearance Patiod Jan 2014 #128
I love my Silhouettes, but.... femmocrat Dec 2013 #70
We also use Zenni Optical Holly_Hobby Dec 2013 #40
Most vision insurance will not pay for Lasik. MindPilot Dec 2013 #41
Some people aren't good candidates for laser surgery. Skidmore Dec 2013 #43
Yeah, I know. It sucks. MindPilot Dec 2013 #45
Had not heard of trifocals. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #51
Never had the nerve for the surgery. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #49
I never heard of that. Thanks for posting. nt raccoon Jan 2014 #119
It's foolish on their part. kiva Dec 2013 #56
Lucky you! I can relate to that. Recently I DebJ Jan 2014 #122
kick for truth Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #46
http://www.39dollarglasses.com/ openfield Dec 2013 #50
Agreed. TRoN33 Dec 2013 #52
I'm paying $360 for one pair of contact lenses. progressoid Dec 2013 #57
AmericasBest, definitely less expensive. Blue Diadem Dec 2013 #58
Costco - I keep my membership for the eye glasses alone Mira Dec 2013 #61
Expensive eyeglasses Vinnie Dec 2013 #64
welcome to DU gopiscrap Dec 2013 #110
For thse that still need them, check around town - like with a social worker. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #69
I just bought glasses last month Sweet Freedom Dec 2013 #71
I called this morning & cancelled my order from yesterday. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #75
If you are a Costco member..with my prescription in hand.$169.00 total.. frames, transition lenses.. Tikki Dec 2013 #72
WOW! Mine cost a whole DOLLAR! ErikJ Dec 2013 #74
I did that for a few years because I had no other financial means but I DebJ Jan 2014 #123
I haven't paid more than $75 for any style (single vision) in years and I don't even have insurance. TalkingDog Dec 2013 #76
I paid $119 for high index lenses AND frames. Nobody You Know Dec 2013 #79
If you buy eyeglasses on line, where do you go to get them adjusted? Divernan Dec 2013 #80
Good question, I would like to know as well oregonjen Dec 2013 #86
Yes, at least my area one does…you could call and ask.. Tikki Dec 2013 #102
Good question. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #95
There's advice on the sites for sizing jeff47 Dec 2013 #99
because the optometrist puts a signifigant markup on those frames.. frylock Dec 2013 #81
go to Costco... Sancho Dec 2013 #88
myopic mehrrh Dec 2013 #89
Probably because I need new ones. Hubert Flottz Dec 2013 #90
have you looked at the prices for RIMLESS glasses?? shanti Dec 2013 #91
go to zenni or 39dollarglasses.com elehhhhna Dec 2013 #107
they've been given shanti Dec 2013 #112
$95... Agschmid Dec 2013 #92
Zenni is not for everyone ga_girl Dec 2013 #96
welcome to DU!!!! gopiscrap Dec 2013 #109
around the same time everything else people need became expensive Skittles Dec 2013 #104
Here is the reason: Luxottica 1monster Dec 2013 #105
I need new glasses, I've been putting it off because of the expense. nt Raine Jan 2014 #116
Try Costco emsimon33 Jan 2014 #117
You are talking about Earth, correct? Shankapotomus Jan 2014 #125
When the Boomers hit 40? truebluegreen Jan 2014 #129
LOL. CrispyQ Jan 2014 #130

NOVA_Dem

(620 posts)
1. I get my frames and lenses from zennioptical.com
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:20 AM
Dec 2013

Frames are super cheap if you can find a style you like.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
4. wife just got some from Zenni - pretty cheap and looked nice.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:28 AM
Dec 2013

took @ 2 weeks at holiday time.
$79 for invisible bifocals frame and lens.

NOVA_Dem

(620 posts)
6. i got some great hipster looking frames for $13.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:30 AM
Dec 2013

The same frames with a designer name attached would've cost me $200 easy.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
48. Another vote for Zenni Optical.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:46 PM
Dec 2013

Been buying glasses from them for 5 years now. Not a bad pair yet.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
87. +1 for zenni; but check frame size
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:05 PM
Dec 2013

My husband has ordered glasses from them Zenni twice and has been happy.

One thing to double check is the size of the frame. One pair he ordered was too small even though they looked larger on the site relative to others.

WhollyHeretic

(4,074 posts)
24. That's who I use. I've got a pair of prescription sunglasses from them that I bought a few years ago
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:47 AM
Dec 2013

for $20. My regular glasses A few months ago I got a pair for $60 with anti-glare and anti-scratch and they are the nicest frames I've had.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
53. Buying prescription sunglasses was the nicest thing I did for myself!
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:49 PM
Dec 2013

Why didn't I do this years ago?

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
77. I hate my prescription sunglasses
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:50 PM
Dec 2013

Just a word of warning:
I have bifocals for regular use (and a separate pair for when I'm at the computer for close-range work).
The prescription sunglasses could only be made with the long distance lens for some reason. I find it extremely difficult to use them in the car especially if I have to read a map to get where I'm going. The inability to see the map without changing glasses is infuriating. The inability to read the newspaper (or a book or DU) while wearing the prescription sunglasses is a deal-breaker for me. YMMV

earthside

(6,960 posts)
127. Progressive lens sunglasses ...
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 11:13 AM
Jan 2014

I have a pair of prescription, progressive lens sunglasses that I bought from Zenni about four years ago.

Best sunglasses I have ever had.
And I realized I need them because my eyes changed and, like you, I couldn't read the speedometer with my single vision glasses.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
39. I am another Zenni fan
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:18 PM
Dec 2013

For me and my kids (not little ones ... teenager and adult university student)

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
66. Yet another happy zenni customer - buy a spare pair!
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:24 PM
Dec 2013

The irony of using Zenni (for me, anyway) is that I get optical insurance (VSP) through work. If you buy out of VSP's network, they will reimburse up to some limit but after a deductible. Zenni glasses are so cheap, that almost the entire cost is in the deductible, so the reimbursement was something like $8 for my pair. but VSP would happily shell out hundreds of dollars if I wanted to buy in-network. So buying from Zenni means that I really don't get any benefit from my VSP coverage.

It's a small price to pay (got it?) for cheap glasses. To be fair, the overall frame quality is lower than you would find at an opticians, but given the price, you can buy 3-8x the glasses for the same price. So buy an extra pair from the really cheap frame section in case your regular pair breaks to avoid having to pay the LensCrafters panic penalty.

I think my favorite part about Zenni is that the prices are so cheap, I decided to go with a style completely different than I've worn for many years. If I was buying $200-400 glasses, I wouldn't take the risk of hating them. But for $30? Sure, they can always become my backup glasses. And lo and behold, I have a new look!

They also have good (intelligent) customer service. My Rx is for bifocals, but I wanted to try having two pairs (distance only for driving, reading only for computer work), but I wasn't sure how to enter in my Rx for this. As part of their answer, they pointed out that if I was going to get reading-only glasses from my bifocal Rx, I needed to reduce my PD (the distance between your pupils) by 3mm to compensate for the fact that I will be looking at things much closer. I would never have known this, but they volunteered the info right up front when I chatted with them.

drkedjr

(100 posts)
108. Frames on-line
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 05:15 PM
Dec 2013

I've had great luck with < www.glasses.com> You can have them send you 5 pairs at a time to try on at home - no charge. The prices are amazingly low. Every time I have a major lens change, I have to buy for my computer glasses, my regular glasses and sun glasses. Well over a thousand whenever this happens.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
132. They have a version of Ray Ban's Clubmasters!!!!!
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jan 2014

They have a version of Ray Ban's Clubmasters!!!!! $35 and the only difference is the wire on top.



Next set of glasses I'll have my optometrist send my prescription to these guys, awesome link, Thank you!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
2. If you don't have vision insurance these days, you can only afford BC frames as we
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:22 AM
Dec 2013

called them in the USAF.

On Edit: Actually we called them BC Glasses.

wercal

(1,370 posts)
3. 60 Minutes did a story on this
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:24 AM
Dec 2013

The vast majority of frames are made by the same company, based in Italy. You name the brand - Ray ban to Chanel to Prada, this one company makes them. Its a huge monopoly. The company is Luxottica...they punish retailers who want to carry non Luxottica frames, by refusing to supply them with the brand name ones...and they can name their price.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
18. saw that story
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:41 AM
Dec 2013

I recall--and may have saved--what their advice was about how to avoid that company. I will check my files.

Ratz--checked files and they're zipped due to low back up hard drive space. Can't access until I hook up my new external HD.

I think I recall one of the more important things they said, though, and that is that a couple chains don't do business with them. I think they were J.C. Penney's vision centers, Costco, and also Wal-Mart.

So if you go to any of those chains, you should notice a significant reduction in the price of frames.

Also, another small bit of advice, I have checked out Rite-Aid's frames and they are quite reasonably priced. In addition, they will let you have four frames for try-on for free for one week! I tried them and definitely intend to order a pair. I think the frame I checked was something like $39! From the sample pack mailed to me at home, it appeared to be a nice quality of frame.


Cher

p.s. when I get my external hard drive hooked up, I will come back and post any additional information that might be helpful. That might be awhile, though--very busy right now.

wercal

(1,370 posts)
103. You have to be careful with Wal Mart
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:26 PM
Dec 2013

" I think they were J.C. Penney's vision centers, Costco, and also Wal-Mart."


Often times the optical center at Wal Mart is just leasing space, and has absolutely no affiliation with Wal Mart whatsoever...i.e. they could be a Luxottica outlet.

The optical center in Sams Club is different, and is operated by Wal Mart, probably outside of Luxottica control.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,384 posts)
30. Vuarnet.... when was the last time ...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:03 PM
Dec 2013

anyone saw them for sale in the US....Luxottica also owns many of the retail outlets under many different names

TeamPooka

(24,226 posts)
73. i have 5 pairs of Vuarnet sunglasses because I love them so much. They are hard to find now
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013

I buy new frames when I need them for my old lenses.
Most of my frames are less than 5 years old but most of my Vuarnet lenses go back 30 years.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
135. The Monopoly is back in a lot of Consumer Products and Services
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jan 2014

The airlines and gas stations as prime examples

tridim

(45,358 posts)
5. I fear that my $15 readers will stop working some day and I'll have to buy real glasses.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:30 AM
Dec 2013

I guess all the ads I see regarding cheap frames/lenses/exams are all BS?

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
21. I bought 4 pairs of 3 doller readers
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:43 AM
Dec 2013

No way I am spending that kund of money on something I will lose.

catbyte

(34,392 posts)
62. I'm fortunate enough to have good eyesight save for Walgreens x175 readers.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:06 PM
Dec 2013

But I am pushing 60 & wonder if I will need expensive ones soon. Sigh. The indignities of aging. I still have 20/15 vision distance vision but close up is a big old blur. Ack.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
84. I'm still on 1x which I assume means my vision is pretty decent.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:00 PM
Dec 2013

If it weren't for those damn small labels on everything I'd be fine without them.

Fortunately I can still see well from 3 feet to infinity.

catbyte

(34,392 posts)
97. I'm the same way. I started out at 1x 5 years ago, and my eyesight has deteriorated to where
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:27 PM
Dec 2013

I need the 175x. That's not too bad. I figure I've got about 15 years left before I run out of sufficient magnification at the store, LOL.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
63. I've done the "2 for $80" thing at JCPenny Optical.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:12 PM
Dec 2013

They weren't great. But they work. I usually run up the bill in the lens material. Non-glare, scratch resistant, etc.

For 560$ (350 out of pocket after insurance) at Fred Meyer Optical, I got a great pair of heavy duty motorcycle prescription sunglasses, polarized, safety lens, plus a regular cheap pair of flexible frame glasses, with the scratch resistance/anti-glare and photochromatic lenses.

The vast bulk of the cost was in the lenses. The frames were downright cheap.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. On the high-index lenses
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:32 AM
Dec 2013

I am totally myopic too, and those high-index progressive lenses can run $450 or more for me WITHOUT the frames.

I don't wear jewelry or other expensive things, but since I wear glasses every day, I like nice frames (though I'll keep them a long time). What I've done for my last two pairs of glasses I've gotten is buy the expensive frames I like and then take them to Costco. My high-index, progressive lenses cost something like $120 there (it may have gone up a small bit last time, can't remember), plus a $20 fee or so for bringing outside frames in. The quality is very good, and I've had no problems. It's a way to save hundreds of dollars and still have nice glasses with top-of-the-line lenses.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
14. Ditto.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:38 AM
Dec 2013

My glasses are the first thing I put on in the morning & the last thing I take off at night.

I will check Costco out. I have four 'old' pair of glasses - the frames are fine, but the lenses are out of date. Well, some would say the frames are out of date, too, but I love my purple cat eyes! They will make fab sunglasses!

I was so thrilled when they came out with the high index lenses. No more Coke bottle lenses.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
60. My wife is -8 and -6.75
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:02 PM
Dec 2013

She has thin lightweight, scratch resistant, antireflective lenses in nice frames for about $80 total.
Try Zenni or 39DollarGlasses.com
We found it easy, convenient and inexpensive.

I only require a small amount of correction for astigmatism, so I buy driving glasses, sunglasses and readers with that correction for $6-20 a pair. I usually buy about a half dozen at a time (you know how sunglasses and readers go missing).

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
120. Me either but just to get ones that won't fall apart simply from sitting on
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:19 AM
Jan 2014

my ears for 60 days has cost me several hundred dollars.

Hubby tried to talk me into getting the cheap ones our insurance will pay for, but I said
I'm not going to go through all the effort of ordering and picking them up just to trash
them in two months.

I've got to look for something cheaper though. Glasses are ridiculously expensive around here.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
121. My frames have lasted me 5 years and two sets of lenses.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:22 AM
Jan 2014

My wife always bought the $200+ frames and every year they were lost or broken within 6 months.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
59. Glasses
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:59 PM
Dec 2013

I got my Rx at Target and some really cool frames (2 pairs). Apparently, they get the latest frames like the Lenscrafters of the world, where the earlier models go to Costco and Sam's (and other big box stores). When you get an Rx, be sure and ask for the PD (pupil distance) number. They don't like to give it out since they know that you're intending to order online. But they really don't give you a hassle about it - at least Target didn't.

Another 2 good ones I've used are Coastal.com and Goggles4U. There's lots of discount codes out there on top of the normal sales. Check out www.slickdeals.net for good codes. Also, I think Coastal gives you your first pair free.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
106. Slickdeals.net is great for finding bargains
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 04:41 PM
Dec 2013

and the comments are really good regarding quality.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
10. As if the insurance money were just gravy and we end up paying retail anyway.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:35 AM
Dec 2013

So sick of this kind of shit. This world is being controlled by a bunch of worthless, disease-causing parasites.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
11. I'm very nearsighted, too.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:35 AM
Dec 2013

Even when they run sales, it still ends up being so expensive. It's ridiculous.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
13. Costco has great glasses and you can definitely get a nice pair of glasses...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:35 AM
Dec 2013

frames and lenses, for under $200. I'm sorry to say, stay out of local shops. I paid over $500 for a pair at my beloved local guy and six months later bought the same pair for $230 at Costco.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
118. I got expensive (by Costco standards) eyeglasses 7 years ago
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 05:31 AM
Jan 2014

because I wanted metal frames that came with magnet attachable sunglasses. That was seven years ago and they still look brand new and have held at least 2 changes in prescriptions. I keep losing and/or breaking the attachable sunglasses but can always get more at Costco. I highly recommend Costco for glasses.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
15. They got expensive when insurance started covering them.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:38 AM
Dec 2013

Just like anything to do with the medical field. If a third party is paying the bill or most of it the provider jacks up the price knowing that no one will complain.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
101. Yes that is part of the problem. If your insurance pays for your frames, why
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:16 PM
Dec 2013

would you care what the price is? And if you do care, what can you do about it?

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
124. Huge fan of Warby Parker style
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jan 2014

I have 3 pair of glasses from Eyebuydirect, but their frame selection is limited.

Have been browsing WP for a year or so, because their frames are very good-looking.

I totally understand scrimping on readers, but I wear my glasses every moment I'm awake, so I'd like them to be well-made and stylish. I'll cut corners somewhere else, but not on eyeglasses. Buying online lets you have it all - good looking frames, good lenses, and all for a reasonable price - <$150

The only downside to WP is that they don't do bifocal/progressive lenses online, their prices have gone up from $95 to $145 (still a steal compared to brick-and-mortar) and they won't do my "computer" Rx - which is my distance Rx, diminished by a certain ratio. So I guess my next pair of glasses will be from Zenni....

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
26. When someone decided to get the fashion
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:48 AM
Dec 2013

industry involved. Every designer needs to be in everything.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
27. Try online
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:51 AM
Dec 2013

I've used eyebuydirect.com and had a good experience. I think the last pair of glasses I got was between $50-60 and it was for everything - frames, lenses, coating. Prior to that, my retail glasses were always close to $300 so it was a big savings for me. I'm getting ready to order some more. I don't have insurance so I don't know if you can use that or not, but I don't see why you couldn't.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
126. I second eyebuydirect. Great if you're dead broke
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 11:02 AM
Jan 2014
Especially if you're dead broke.

Also, it's one of the few sites that lets you forego almost all the coatings, which for some reason always start peeling off of my glasses (I must be using some sort of spray product that reacts badly to them, but regardless of where I buy glasses, they all peel)

They have perfectly acceptable glasses I bought from them for computer work for $6.95.

I paid an extra $10 for "thin and light", got no coating, and with shipping, they came in around $20 . I can't imagine the lenses being any thinner (although you can pay more for even thinner lenses), and they've been wonderful. I'm hard on glasses, but these are about 18 mos old now, and I'm wearing them as I type this.

global1

(25,249 posts)
29. Getting Glasses These Days Is Like Buying A Car With All The Options Available....
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:00 PM
Dec 2013

Options for the lenses include:

non-glare
tinted
thin lenses (not the coke bottle type)
scratch resistant
bi-focals - to avoid having two pair of glasses - one for reading and one for distance
lenses that change from light to dark depending upon light conditions
UV protection coating

There are probably a couple of more options that I forgot about.

Anyway - by the time you say yes to some of these - that $99.00 pair of glasses winds up costing you $450.00.

Many of the eye-doctors only stock the designer lenses - I'm thinking it's because of the mark-up that they get - so low cost frames just aren't available from them.


CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
33. When you wear glasses all day, every day, some of those lens options are nice.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:08 PM
Dec 2013

I love non-glare, high index & scratch resistant. I'm gonna look into the UV coating.

alc

(1,151 posts)
31. I paid $40 for my current pair.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:03 PM
Dec 2013

My previous pair was $10 but I moved to bifocals and the doctor said it would be better to get a more sturdy pair since the lenses cost so much more. I've only broken one pair in my life (40 years of glasses) but went with the $40 pair anyway.

I did pay $200 for my son's a few months ago (actually he paid some and my part was his birthday present). He goes to a different place than me but his place also had $10 frames. Unfortunately he didn't like how those ones looked. That's why frames are so expensive - because people will pay for better looks. So they make the $10 pairs look plain then charge as much as they can for better looking pairs.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. The eyeglass frame monopoly is at work. There was a show on tee vee about this.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:08 PM
Dec 2013

Most glasses frames are made by one company and they put different names on them. It's a fookin' racket, you see.

See: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sticker-shock-why-are-glasses-so-expensive-07-10-2012/

Have you bought a pair of glasses lately? Bet your eyes popped when you saw the price tag. If you don't go to places like Walmart or Costco, you could easily be spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a pair that cost $30 10 years ago. Talk about sticker shock.

And it's not as though things have changed that much: they're still made of a couple of pieces of plastic or wire, some screws and glass. Why should a pair of glasses cost more than an iPad? Well one answer is because one company controls a big chunk of the business.

Never has there been so much choice: Ray-Bans, Oakleys, glasses for running, and skiing, and even reading. A staggering variety of colors and designers. You'd think the competition would force the prices down.

One reason it hasn't is a little known but very big Italian company called Luxottica. If you own a nice pair of specs or shades, they're probably theirs. Luxottica is the biggest eyewear company on earth. It shuns publicity, but CEO Andrea Guerra invited us in for a look. And it was eye-opening.....


Buy 'em from China over the internet. Or from the Enemy Walmart. They're much cheaper from those sources.

You're not ingesting them, they are unlikely to kill you.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
35. Another vote for ZenniOptical...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:10 PM
Dec 2013

the glasses I wear everyday were around 15 bucks after the extra coating, clipon shade and whatever else I ordered. Amazingly, I often get complemented on them.

It gets expensive if you want high index photochromatic in titanium frames, but still not nearly what your local guy wants.

(It's true, btw, that arguments against cheap Chinese stuff fade away when real money is at stake and Wal-Mart isn't involved)

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
36. SCAM... someone is making a killing... I would by frames... my current ones are Dior
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:13 PM
Dec 2013

for around 110AED which is just a bit over $25... that included the exam.

That for ORIGINAL Diors. If I wanted to go CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, I could have cut things in half.

I strongly, strongly resent the fact I have to pay thought the teeth for a freaking prescription back here in the states for the same prescription I have had for 25yrs.

Do I need to say... health care in America sucks AND WASTES MONEY from top to bottom.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
85. Where did you go, JCMach1? I thought you were in Florida??
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:02 PM
Dec 2013

Didn't you run for local office there once?

I missed your move! How did that happen?

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
115. Dubai? Ten years??? Welcome home!
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:29 AM
Jan 2014
Dubai is where a whole lot of things seem to be happening in this world. All the military contractors and crooks are moving their companies there, and it seems like every consultant I've ever heard of has had a gig over there at one point or another...people who deal with neurolinguistic programming, appreciative inquiry, hypnosis, even math and science and music lecturers have had gigs there. Lots of $$ in that place, and all the good cuts of meat, vegetables, etc, all seem to be going that direction.

Makes me nervous. What's your take?

jsr

(7,712 posts)
37. Luxottica.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:14 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.complex.com/style/2012/10/why-every-pair-of-glasses-on-the-planet-is-the-same

60 Minutes aired this piece tonight by Lesley Stahl that profiles Italian eyewear company Luxottica. If you haven't heard of it, you've probably heard of one of the many brands it owns: Oliver Peoples, Persol, Ray-Ban, and Oakley—as well as the countless designer houses it makes frames for like Ralph Lauren, Versace, Burberry, and Brooks Brothers.

What's more, they also have a monopoly on eyewear retailers. Among its subsidiaries are Pearle Vision, Lens Crafters, and Sunglass Hut. To put it simply, they pretty much run the glasses game. How did they become the Nucky Thompson of the optical world? The report delves into how they first started manufacturing glasses for designer houses in an attempt to make frames less nerdy and more fashionable. As a result, they've slowly and literally gobbled up the competition.

Stahl points out that Oakley, a recent acquisition by the company in 2007, at first tried to remain independent of the Italian eyewear giant, who then refused to stock the brand's shades in its stores. As a result, Oakley's stock plummeted before being bought by Luxottica. Yet, despite owning so many brands, retailers, and even eyewear insurance company EyeMed, prices for prescription frames remain as astronomical as ever. Watch the video to find out how consumers are the ones getting slighted by turning a blind eye on this optical monopoly.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
42. Wow! I learned a lot in this thread.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:26 PM
Dec 2013

I'm gonna cancel my order from yesterday. My coverage is once a year, but you have to wait 12 months between purchases, so if I cancel, I can buy something next week.

Thanks!

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
38. Designer frames in the UK are c. $180
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:17 PM
Dec 2013

but usually two for the price of one with single lenses : bifocal lenses extra.

I noticed some Silhouettes, like Patrick Dempsey's, in the window of an opticians in Spain and looked them when I got back to the UK.



The ones with flexible titanium arms are $575 here with single lenses. I managed to find two for price of one copies for $240. the pair.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
44. I hate the way glasses are marketed as a fashion accessory...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:30 PM
Dec 2013

that somehow enables an active lifestyle.

Glasses help you to see like a wheelchair helps you to walk. And about as stylish too.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
54. They're stylish if you want them to be.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:49 PM
Dec 2013

Plenty of online places like Zenni Optical to buy glasses, much cheaper than B&M stores. And they look just as good.

http://www.zennioptical.com/

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
55. My eyes disappear behind my very myopic lenses, so I like a nice frame to bring attention to them.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:52 PM
Dec 2013

Eyeliner helps, too.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
128. But they are such a prominent feature of one's appearance
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jan 2014

I have a very frugal friend who says "It's only worth pay good money for your hair and one good handbag, because they are the two things that are with you every day"

I would amend that to add "and glasses" for those of us who need them to function, not just to read or to drive.

Now that you can buy nice glasses for $20 (including shipping at eyebuydirect!), why NOT wear them as a fashion accessory? Why not make sure that they fit your image, and you don't just look like a Poindexter with hospital tape wrapped around the frames? If I'm going for a job interview or meeting new clients, they don't know if I spent $20 or $500, and a fashionable pair of glasses communicates that you're sharp, up-to-date, and probably know how to use technology. For job interviews, I go nuts and wear my high-end $65 glasses!!!

Warby Parker gives away a pair off glasses for every pair they sell - also nice if you can afford WP ($145 - which now that I shop on line seems high to me)

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
70. I love my Silhouettes, but....
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:34 PM
Dec 2013

they were very expensive. I looked around for almost a year before buying them.

Holly_Hobby

(3,033 posts)
40. We also use Zenni Optical
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:19 PM
Dec 2013

Been ordering our glasses from them for about 4 years. However, my latest order placed on December 3rd, has been lost by Fed Ex. Shipped from China to Anchorage, where Fed Ex lost it after it went through Customs. It's somewhere between Anchorage and LA, where it will be shipped to me. Oh well, my driving glasses only cost $34 and will last for 2 years until I have another eye exam.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
41. Most vision insurance will not pay for Lasik.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:24 PM
Dec 2013

They will happily pay hundreds of dollars each year for exam, frames, & lenses. But they won't pay for a permanent solution so they don't have to spend the money on glasses every year. I think that is a good indication that it is a racket. That and the insurance provider, manufacturer, brand, and the doctor's practice are all own by the same company.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
43. Some people aren't good candidates for laser surgery.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:27 PM
Dec 2013

Others have problems later too. My brother had this procedure some years ago. Now he is developing cataracts as he ages and the doctor informed him that, because of the effects of the laser surgery, he may not be able to have the cataracts removed.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
45. Yeah, I know. It sucks.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:39 PM
Dec 2013

I had a procedure called an RK done in the 80's. It was kind of the precursor to Lasik. After wearing coke bottles from Jr high through adulthood, I am extraordinarily grateful for the roughly 15 years I got of perfect 20/20 vision without an appliance stuck on my face.

Now, the scaring combined with the aging, I'm not a good candidate for Lasik or even contacts. Even with the best available progressive trifocals, I will never again be able to see things in perfect focus.

ETA: It wouldn't surprise me to find out that the glasses monopoly has also worked to suppress the development of any advanced surgical techniques that might eliminate the need for glasses.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
49. Never had the nerve for the surgery.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:46 PM
Dec 2013

I remember the old RK surgery back in the 80's, & people complained about increased light sensitivity. I already have that & don't need to make it worse. Not sure if Lasik has the same issue.

I'll stick with my four eyes.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
56. It's foolish on their part.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:58 PM
Dec 2013

I paid $2500 for Lasik seven years ago - I had astigmatism and my vision would have categorized me as legally blind if it hadn't been correctable; I was paying $400+ for glasses then, and not with designer frames. I figure I'm pretty much even at this point, considering how the price of glasses has soared, now I buy a cheap pair of readers when I need to read small print.

And I can tell the difference between my shampoo and conditioner bottles in the shower without holding them an inch from my eyes, woohoo

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
122. Lucky you! I can relate to that. Recently I
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:26 AM
Jan 2014

was washing my hair with conditioner and couldn't figure out at first why the shampoo wasn't rinsing out
well; thought my hair was terribly greasy for some reason.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
52. Agreed.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:48 PM
Dec 2013

Even when I bought a new eyeglasses frame, I was so shocked when Oakley's high quality brand is much cheaper than many of unknown and skinner frames. I wore Oakley frame for past year and half, my longest-lasting one in past 10 years. Many $300-400 skinny frames couldn't last more than a year.

I did once thought about the pricing of frames; "It's all bullshit."

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
57. I'm paying $360 for one pair of contact lenses.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:58 PM
Dec 2013

I have issues so the cheap disposables won't work for me.

Blue Diadem

(6,597 posts)
58. AmericasBest, definitely less expensive.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:58 PM
Dec 2013

and you can look at their frames online. They aren't in all states but here's the link to their stores:

http://www.americasbest.com/store-list

My husband used them the last time and is happy with his glasses.

Vinnie

(3 posts)
64. Expensive eyeglasses
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:16 PM
Dec 2013

My family lived in the Northern Italian town where the frames were made. Several years ago the Chinese bought the factories. For the first year they observed the Italian workers and how they made the frames. Then they literally emptied the factories of all of the equipment. Now the factories are closed and hundreds of workers are unemployed.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
69. For thse that still need them, check around town - like with a social worker.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:28 PM
Dec 2013

There is, I hope, an optician who takes care of people with lower incomes in your city. There was one in Oklahoma City several years ago, on Linwood if I remember correctly. Nice people.

It was all cash, but the prices were much lower, and good work. I had those for several years, until I finally broke down and went to Costco which was one of the better deals where we live now.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
71. I just bought glasses last month
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:35 PM
Dec 2013

And with insurance, my out-of-pocket expenses for my prescription and lenses were $550 and $200, respectively. At least I have a care credit account and could spread the payments out over six months. I didn't know about the online option until it was too late.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
75. I called this morning & cancelled my order from yesterday.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:44 PM
Dec 2013

Sorry this post wasn't a few months earlier!

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
72. If you are a Costco member..with my prescription in hand.$169.00 total.. frames, transition lenses..
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:38 PM
Dec 2013

and a case and cleaning kit.

I don't have bifocals..…just for my myopia…I mostly wear for driving.


Tikki

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
74. WOW! Mine cost a whole DOLLAR!
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013

From a dollar store. I kind of collect them now in different powers from the weakest +1.00 up to +3.5 which are essentially magnifying glasses you can wear.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
123. I did that for a few years because I had no other financial means but I
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:28 AM
Jan 2014

actually ended up ruining my vision by using the wrong lens strength.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
76. I haven't paid more than $75 for any style (single vision) in years and I don't even have insurance.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:46 PM
Dec 2013

There are eyeglass warehouses. Discontinued lines. 50 bucks for a single vision lens. Additional cost for scratch resistance and glare resistance. (I usually spring for one or the other)

Just gotta shop around. Of course my lack of steady employment make that more of an imperative.

 

Nobody You Know

(33 posts)
79. I paid $119 for high index lenses AND frames.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:53 PM
Dec 2013

Best. Deal. Ever.

Minzer's Optical in Brooklyn NY - your glasses ready in 15 minutes (no joke).

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
80. If you buy eyeglasses on line, where do you go to get them adjusted?
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:54 PM
Dec 2013

The prices sound great, but when I take an RX into my retail optical store, they measure the distance between my eyes, for length of side pieces, etc., and then when the glasses arrive, adjust the sidepieces so the glasses don't slide forward. I then occasionally need to go in to get the glasses adjusted again because they ride too far down on my nose. Since I often fall asleep reading, lying on my side, I accept the responsibility for bending the frames out of shape!

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
99. There's advice on the sites for sizing
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:51 PM
Dec 2013

Sizing is the relatively easy part - you can measure your current glasses. The other necessary sizing information comes from the prescription itself.

Adjustment requires some more work. I've had luck using a heat gun to soften and then bend the over-the-ear portion. But if you use a heat gun, you need to be careful you don't get it so hot the plastic melts. A hair dryer would be safer on that front, but I don't know if it gets hot enough.

The rest of the 'adjustments' are often just bending the metal....tricky part being to not bend it too much.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
81. because the optometrist puts a signifigant markup on those frames..
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:57 PM
Dec 2013

knowing that your policy is paying for them. my frames also cost upwards of $150, and they aren't any different or better than the frames on my pair of Arnett sunglasses, that I paid $140 for with a polarized lens.

mehrrh

(233 posts)
89. myopic
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:13 PM
Dec 2013

I share your pain. Got new specs this month for a total of $496.00.
Frames are horribly overpriced and my myopia requires thin lenses. It was nearly $100 more than similar glasses were 18 months ago.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
90. Probably because I need new ones.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:13 PM
Dec 2013

You see it all started when I was born on Friday 13th. I need titanium frames because steel or plated metal breaks my face out, so those are really expensive. These frames I have now have their third set of lenses in them. The titanium is light and tough, so I guess I got my money's worth out of them. I dread to see what my new ones will cost. My eye exam will probably top $150.000. I usually save a little money, because I get a discount when I get the frames to fit a narrow minded person.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
112. they've been given
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 05:39 PM
Dec 2013

several thumbs up on this thread. i'll check them out next time i need glasses.

ga_girl

(183 posts)
96. Zenni is not for everyone
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:26 PM
Dec 2013

If you've got an easy Rx, Zenni may work for you, but it doesn't for me. I just spent $150 for a mail order frame and an additional $550 for lenses. Insurance picked up another $200 for the lenses, so a little under a grand when you include the doctors visit.

High index (1.7), heavy plus, astigmatism, prism and it all adds up.

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