but she never should have said it in the first place.

went off the train tracks. MHP didn't think this through, didn't consider the pitfalls in mentioning the whole adoption thing at the outset. Why say it? We all know that the Republican Party is horrible on race issues, so it serves no purpose to take it to this level, a very personal, family one.

This should have never been brought up in the first place, it gave the repubs another talking point to bash liberals.
It seems that we like to pull defeat from the jaws of victory too often.

staff and Perry thinking. Including the Romney family in the segment was silly and had no point.

I wonder how responsible she is for something her guests say off the cuff. Good she apologized, but it was the panel, not her.

Or, maybe I misheard something and she actually took part in it... Let me know if I did.

I just thought it was probably best that she not get into a discussion about it in the first place. I happen to like MHP. I think she goes into good stuff on her show most of the time. Of course, this is all hindsight on our parts here. And, I think most of us have had those moments where we say "Oof! I shouldn't have said that!" Accompanied by a

what you were saying.

I'm chillin'. Tomorrow is our 28th wedding anniversary! We were married in the living room of a JP in Woodbridge, CT.

I'm making game hens for our NY eve dinner and tomorrow my husband is cooking lobsters from Legal Sea Foods (which you should know something about!).

Happy New Year!

I too was married by a JP, on the same exact day that Michelle married Barack Obama!

Can you come up to MA and make me some game hens and some lobsters?? Sound delish!!

You know there is a place in ME where you can order lobsters straight off the dock and they will ship them to you live. I can look up the name if you would like. Let me know!

Leave the kids alone please.

I agree: we need to be better than that.

She needed to.

I expect childish mockery from those idiots on The Five on Fox News,not a progressive show. Shame on her and her guests.

MSNBC will make her resign watch and see. The right likes getting liberal scalps. She will be the new whipping girl. I saw the segment and didn't find it offensive but felt sorry for that child he never be accepted fully in that family because he is not a blood and white.


Get ready the outrage machine will be gearing up 3-2-1....... Blast off goodbye Melissa.

resign, I will stop watching the network's weekend shows.

I hope she doesn't have to resign or get fired. I think she made a mistake and quickly rectified it. I HOPE the Republicans understand that it was a quick mistake and let it go. We have not heard from the Romney's which is good.

It was her guests.

Good for him.

After all, Bashir's comments were criticism directed at an adult, public figure for her offensive comments about slavery.

Harris-Perry's segment targeted an infant and his adopted family because he is black.

Hopefully they remain consistent because honestly, Harris-Perry is and has always been an embarrassment.

claiming that white liberals who didn't vote for Obama the second time around are racist.

http://www.thenation.com/article/163544/black-president-double-standard-why-white-liberals-are-abandoning-obama

Not to mention her tampon earrings she wore on live TV.

She's like a caricature straight out of a Limpballs fantasy.

In fact, MHP has a lot of good points in it.

for the transparent BS that it was.

http://www.salon.com/2011/09/26/white_liberals_obama_2/

Not that anyone of average intelligence couldn't poke holes in her juvenile tripe.

they are certainly stupid. The choice between the two Presidential candidates couldn't have been clearer. On one side was a President who had led well in the face is racist, angry, senseless opposition. On the other side was a man who had only showed that he could become richer than he was born, flip-flopped on everything, failed to take any stand that demonstrated that he had a moral compass. Mitt Romney may be a decent person, I don't know him, but Presidential candidate Mitt Romney was a core-less, slimy coward.

So.... you agree with me that it was stupid. Great.

They could have voted for a third party candidate (possibly an actual progressive...)...or just not voted for president at all.

In states where the race wasn't going to be close (and given our annoying retention of the obsolete Electoral College), liberal voters were free to express their disappointment in the administration without risk of helping the GOP.

A caricature straight out of "limpballs" fantasy??

WTH

She was making a statement about women not being allowed to carry tampons and kotex into the TX state legislature, during the Wendy Davis filibuster over abortion.

It's a pity that you can't recognize making an intelligent statement vs. self-defeating silly antics.

Then again, your arguments on this forum amount to piss-poor strawmen, so it's not surprising to find you using this tactic again in this thread.

I don't give a flying fuck about Rush's opinion and the hate he spews, except to point out that it is HATE. I never blame the people he uses, like MHP, Sandra Fluke, Hillary etc, for his absolutely disgusting comments. Appears, you, on the other hand, do care what he says, and obviously find some common ground with him.

seeing as MSNBC is seen as the de facto progressive news channel.

And when one of their employees provide fodder time after time for the right, not to mention disgracing herself, then yeah it should be called out.

See the difference!

My point was that MHP often acts like a right-wing parody.

This shit, like mocking a black baby in a white family, is not only racist and stupid but also harmful. Which is why she has apologized, knowing that her antics might cost her a job.

Don't use them in such an obvious manner.

You won't come across so badly when you attack the argument rather than the person.

I however do NOT.

No straw there.

Why do you keep telling me to turn him off? The stuff that he and other right-wingers say is posted in GD all the time, so obviously one would not need radio to know what he says.

The discussion is about Harris-Perry, her apology for her racist segment, and her past antics, not my radio listening habits. Stick to the topic mmkay.

And how she was giving him "fodder" for his comments.

Keep up now, ok?

The subject is her, not him. Like if I said my friend had fallen into a Chekhovian despair. The subject is my friend, not Chekhov. Well, this is a basic concept from English 101.

You keep mentioning him because you're unwilling or unable to defend her behavior, so you must resort to using a strawman for lack of any other way to reply to me. Which is embarrassing.

No STRAW here, no sir.

What a farce!

She gets carried away with her own rhetoric way too often for me to take her seriously.

That's your opinion, and everybody has one. But to many who watch her religiously she's one of the most knowledgeable host on the air and brings on guests with special insight into their subject matter.

She's hardly an embarrassment.

I watched the show and there was nothing mean spirited at all about the segment with the baby photo. And Ms Perry herself never said anything even remotely mocking in tone.

it was Megyn Kelly showing a photo of Malia and her white friends, for the purposes of mocking her color compared to them?

Of course you wouldn't. Because the reason for the joke is a child's race, which is despicable.

Pls don't take right wing talking points as gospel. There was no mocking, no mean spiritedness towards the child. A joke was made about repug "whiteness", which is kinda true since that party is 95% white and seeming to like it like that.

and not that baby. If anything, MHP seems to be gushing over how beautiful the child is.

The fixation on "What Would Rush think" and how MHP looks to Republicans from that person is interesting.

I thought it was hateful.

taken.Good for her.

She mocked republican whiteness and Mittens' would be shock at the kid's marrying North West years hence but no one mocked the kid.

This is just another example of liberal noodlespine syndrome. We apologize for everything and they never apologize, no matter how heinous their comments.

She did something a Republican would never in a hundred YEARS do.

She didn't say anything bad about the kid or Rmoney's family for adopting the kid.

One of her guests made a joke, but it was a valid point.

But we all know who owns the media, so this is now going to be a minor scandale, of course. The "BOTHSIDESDOIT" and the "DEMSARETHEREALRACISTS" brigades will be in full force.

Those same people will keep defending Phil Robertson, who is the real racist in the room.

This is wrong on so many levels.

And that's what this was... minuscule.

They don't.

Neither should we.

Great plan.

MHP is a saint.

yes maybe we need to become a bit like them. They stay on the air, they dont EVER apologize for anything. It shouldnt have been said , she apologized....................................... duck fukin dynasty.

how the most recent two MSNBC hosts that have had to issue apologies are people of color? Meanwhile, the bigoted white guy on Duck Dynasty can make homophobic remarks and say that people of color were happy during Jim Crow making more money laughing to the bank. I am so sick of this double standard.

I watched the segment and MHP didn't make any derogatory remarks. Her guests are the ones that went off the rails a bit during the discussion. If we held all of the "Fixed Noise" programs to the same standards, they would need an apology template on speed-dial. I am a African-American female and to have MHP bring up issues that I don't hear anyone else discuss on a national broadcast is a breath of fresh air. She also brings on people of color that can get no other platform to speak their truth. I sincerely hope there are no forced "vacations" or resignations by MHP.

The two people who apologized are on a different network then the Duck Family. I am not sure if who forced her to apologize or if she did it on her own. But this is apples and oranges due to different networks.

Geebus. I've become a real Joy Reid fan--- MHP, not so much.

This isn't like that Duck Dynasty a-hole being homophobic and racist, just a little jab at the repugs.

Rude Pundit
When you right-wing fucks condemn Rush Limbaugh for mocking the kids of presidents, we'll talk about @MHarrisPerry.

I hate that Martin Savidge asshole and I can't say what I wish for him in the new year.

I am glad that MHP apologize but I do not think that she was making fun of the baby. The fact that Scott Brown is one of the idiots pushing this story is really stupid. Brown is the wrong person to be making these charges.

Colmes makes some good points http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/alan-colmes-melissa-harris-perry-apology-mitt-romney-black-grandson-kieran

Likely empathetic to anyone encircled by a swarm of outraged conservatives, Fox News Channel's lonely liberal Alan Colmes rushed to the defense of embattled MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry on Tuesday.

Colmes used his blog to dispute the notion that Harris-Perry was mocking Mitt Romney's black grandson, Kieran, during a segment over the weekend.

The mockery, Colmes pointed out, was directed at the GOP — not Kieran Romney.

During the segment, two of Harris-Perry's guests made jokes after a photo of the Romney clan was shown on screen. Comedian Dean Obeidallah said the photo "really sums up the diversity of the Republican Party," while actress Pia Glenn sang "one of these things is not like the other."

As Colmes noted, Harris-Perry actually called the Romney grandson "gorgeous."

"Nevertheless, the media, particularly the right-wing media, reported that the panel made fun of the baby, which isn’t what happened," Colmes wrote.

Harris-Perry apologized for the segment on Tuesday but said she "meant no offense."

"Melissa Harris-Perry is apologizing for something that she didn’t do wrong," Colmes wrote.

to make a point about diversity.