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TalkingDog

(9,001 posts) Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:27 PM Dec 2013

Can We Talk About The Rape Scene In The Wolf Of Wall Street? (Spoiler Alert)

http://www.thatgirlmag.com/spoiler-alert-wolf-wall-street/

At first I thought perhaps the first article was actually going to talk about the rape scene, but the sentence actually goes on to say “Wolf of Wall Street could’ve shown Jordan Belfort raping his own mother and some people would still think he’s a hero because he had a yacht.” Is it ironic that even the writers of this article don’t seem to have noticed Belfort actually raping his own wife?

The rest of the search results are just incidentally related to sex somehow. Whatever, google.

So why isn’t anyone talking about the time Jordan Belfort raped his wife?

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Is it because eventually she kind of agrees to it? Because that's not what consent is. Consent is not saying "Well, your penis is already inside me, so I guess this is just going to happen, so… fine."

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Can We Talk About The Rape Scene In The Wolf Of Wall Street? (Spoiler Alert) (Original Post) TalkingDog Dec 2013 OP

Not for nothing, and I don't really care, but... bonzaga Dec 2013 #1

There are other spoilers in the article. In case you'd like to read it, ya know. TalkingDog Dec 2013 #3

It's sad, how many people think survival = consent. Brickbat Dec 2013 #2

I'd like to read that article xulamaude Dec 2013 #4

The original article is at Jezebel. sufrommich Dec 2013 #8

Thanks :) nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #10

No. I linked to the original article on the that girl mag website. Jezebel cross linked it. TalkingDog Jan 2014 #15

I saw the film, and yes it was rape... bluesbassman Dec 2013 #5

That title is a huge spoiler LittleBlue Dec 2013 #6

linky for you TalkingDog Jan 2014 #18

Y'all can, but I've had enough rape talk for awhile, thanks. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #7

Well, thanks. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #9

Carry on. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #11

Again, thanks for your permission to continue. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #12

No shit.. truebrit71 Dec 2013 #13

Now you know how we feel about thinking about it every day. Good for you that you get to stop. TalkingDog Jan 2014 #16

I recommend taking a walk, enjoying the day, interacting with people. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #19

Did you read the article? xulamaude Jan 2014 #21

Garnish the actors' wages for any rapes that occur because of this movie! nt alp227 Dec 2013 #14

If you think it's a good idea, I'll let you get right on that. TalkingDog Jan 2014 #17

Hollywood made it acceptable in 1973 pintobean Jan 2014 #20

Okay, so I was able to link through today and xulamaude Jan 2014 #22

bonzaga

(48 posts)

1. Not for nothing, and I don't really care, but...

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:29 PM

Dec 2013

It's kind of pointless to put Spoiler Alert in the title when the spoiler happens in the title. I'm just saying.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

3. There are other spoilers in the article. In case you'd like to read it, ya know.

Reply to bonzaga (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:40 PM

Dec 2013

And evidently, since it has received no other attention, it's not really worth calling that a spoiler is it?

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)

2. It's sad, how many people think survival = consent.

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:31 PM

Dec 2013

xulamaude

(847 posts)

4. I'd like to read that article

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:34 PM

Dec 2013

but it seems their server is down.

I'll keep trying though - thanks for the link

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)

8. The original article is at Jezebel.

Reply to xulamaude (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:49 PM

Dec 2013

I can't link to it right now but it's on the main page.

xulamaude

(847 posts)

10. Thanks :) nt

Reply to sufrommich (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:17 PM

Dec 2013

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

15. No. I linked to the original article on the that girl mag website. Jezebel cross linked it.

Reply to sufrommich (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:20 PM

Jan 2014

Just so ya know.

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)

5. I saw the film, and yes it was rape...

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:39 PM

Dec 2013

He also beat the crap out of her, and endangered his daughter's life. The guy was scum on many different levels and should have done more time than he did.

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)

6. That title is a huge spoiler

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:42 PM

Dec 2013

Glad I didn't plan on seeing that movie or I'd be pissed.

Maybe you could edit to "Wolf of Wall Street ( spoilers)"

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

18. linky for you

Reply to LittleBlue (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:28 PM

Jan 2014

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4255849

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

7. Y'all can, but I've had enough rape talk for awhile, thanks.

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:46 PM

Dec 2013

xulamaude

(847 posts)

9. Well, thanks. nt

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:16 PM

Dec 2013

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

11. Carry on.

Reply to xulamaude (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:45 PM

Dec 2013

xulamaude

(847 posts)

12. Again, thanks for your permission to continue. nt

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:47 PM

Dec 2013

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)

13. No shit..

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:49 PM

Dec 2013

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

16. Now you know how we feel about thinking about it every day. Good for you that you get to stop.

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:24 PM

Jan 2014

I'm so happy for you.

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

19. I recommend taking a walk, enjoying the day, interacting with people.

Reply to TalkingDog (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:37 PM

Jan 2014

Then you notice it's not all rape world all the time. I see men and women talking to each other, laughing, having fun. It's a good antidote to what you get on here.

xulamaude

(847 posts)

21. Did you read the article?

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:50 PM

Jan 2014

Do you have anything to say about that?

It's funny, you know, that you said yesterday that you didn't want to talk about rape anymore but here you are telling us to stop thinking about rape.

alp227

(32,025 posts)

14. Garnish the actors' wages for any rapes that occur because of this movie! nt

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:51 PM

Dec 2013

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

17. If you think it's a good idea, I'll let you get right on that.

Reply to alp227 (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:26 PM

Jan 2014

n/t

pintobean

(18,101 posts)

20. Hollywood made it acceptable in 1973

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:43 PM

Jan 2014

in High Plains Drifter. At least, that's the first I remember of such a scene.

My use of "acceptable" is sarcasm and I find it disgusting that anyone finds anything acceptable about rape.

xulamaude

(847 posts)

22. Okay, so I was able to link through today and

Reply to TalkingDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:22 PM

Jan 2014

read the article.

There's one thing I'd like to point out:

Because marital rape has been illegal in the United States since the sixties.

This is not factual. It wasn't until 1993 that there was some form of recourse for marital rape in all states in the US. To this day, some states still have exceptions that constitute a higher burden of proof than 'just' non-consent.

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