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KansDem

(28,498 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 05:02 PM Dec 2013

New virus more contagious, spreads more quickly than most

Posted: Dec 30, 2013 1:20 PM CST
Updated: Dec 30, 2013 3:36 PM CST
By Stephanie Frazier

There's a relatively new virus in the U.S., and it's getting a lot of notice from researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

According to the CDC, norovirus causes your stomach and intestines to become inflamed, giving you stomach pain, nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting. This can, in turn, lead to dehydration and, possibly, the need for hospitalization. In fact, each year, noroviruses cause about 70,000 hospitalizations and 800 deaths, mostly in young children and the elderly, according to Dr. Aron Hall, an epidemiologist at the CDC specializing in norovirus.

A new strain of norovirus is called GII.4 Sydney norovirus; it was identified in March 2012 in Australia. It is especially easily spread, as the majority of Americans don't yet have an immunity to it, and it takes fewer particles of this virus to make you very sick. According to ABC medical contributor Dr. Richard Besser, it takes 1,000 particles of flu virus to make a person sick; however, it only takes 18 particles of the Sydney strain of norovirus to infect a person. Besser also said that this strain can cause you to become ill within just a few hours of exposure, leading researchers and doctors to nickname it the "Ferrari of viruses."

In the U.S, it is now accounting for about 60 percent of all norovirus outbreaks, according to the CDC. As with most viruses, it is most severe in older adults and children, and others with compromised immune systems.

--more, including how to prevent and control the spread of the virus-- KLTV


This tip from the article jumped out at me, "Do not prepare food for others if you are sick." Again, we need a solid sick-leave policy for restaurant workers in this country!
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New virus more contagious, spreads more quickly than most (Original Post) KansDem Dec 2013 OP
Ugh. Time to lay in a stock of Gatorade, I guess Warpy Dec 2013 #1
That's the thing, when you're sick, the lemon-lime gatorade tastes like the nectar of the gods. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #5
Glad to know that. dchill Dec 2013 #7
I'm the same way with white grape juice Scootaloo Dec 2013 #16
Australia - That's not a virus. This is a VIRUS! benld74 Dec 2013 #2
lols d_b Dec 2013 #12
One of the best scenes ever! CrispyQ Jan 2014 #33
Does anyone know if this years flu shot covers the GIL 4 Sydney virus? nt okaawhatever Dec 2013 #3
No vaccine for norovirus naturallyselected Dec 2013 #6
So, you're saying rectal catheters, and 50 gallon hefty-bags for everyone? AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #10
I guess the party is at your place waddirum Jan 2014 #28
thank you for that info. I think I'm confusing this report with the report of a flu strain in TX okaawhatever Dec 2013 #24
It's not a flu Marrah_G Dec 2013 #13
Nope, norovirus is something else entirely from influenzavirus Scootaloo Dec 2013 #17
You are especially correct about that last part, KansDem! Shandris Dec 2013 #4
And even if you could pipi_k Dec 2013 #9
Didn't a certain Stephen King novel start off this way? Brigid Dec 2013 #8
And most novels about the Zombocalypse. Rozlee Dec 2013 #15
Naw, Captain Tripps was coughing, not shitting Scootaloo Dec 2013 #19
"it takes fewer particles of this virus to make you very sick" Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #11
Viruses do have particles Marrah_G Dec 2013 #14
here 840high Dec 2013 #20
Viruses ARE particles Scootaloo Dec 2013 #21
A virus is made up of particles, but it's not a particle. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #22
Viruses are particles MNBrewer Dec 2013 #23
We need a virus SCVDem Dec 2013 #18
I don't know if that's what I had in October, but I was never so sick in my life. catbyte Jan 2014 #25
That sounds like food poisoning. I had it pnwest Jan 2014 #30
Could be. Did you run a fever? That's why I thought virus. catbyte Jan 2014 #31
I don't remember if I had a fever, it was pnwest Jan 2014 #32
Friend of mine was just in the hospital for a couple of days The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #26
This is the 2nd time I've had norovirus gwheezie Jan 2014 #27
i highly recommend the book-'the coming plague'. pansypoo53219 Jan 2014 #29
Why should I pay fer mah neighbors' contagion. johnnyreb Jan 2014 #34

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
1. Ugh. Time to lay in a stock of Gatorade, I guess
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 05:32 PM
Dec 2013

It's horrible stuff but it replaces both sodium and potassium lost through vomiting and diarrhea.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. That's the thing, when you're sick, the lemon-lime gatorade tastes like the nectar of the gods.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:28 PM
Dec 2013

I can't explain it. I tastes wonderful. Yet, when I'm out and healthy, and running a marathon or something, I BETTER not find that shit in a aid station jug, because YAAAAACK.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. I'm the same way with white grape juice
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:38 PM
Dec 2013

I can't stand the taste of gatorade, ever - it's just kool-aid with some salt added. Butwhite grape juice is the perfect stuff for when my stomach is in open revolt.

6. No vaccine for norovirus
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:45 PM
Dec 2013

There is no vaccine for norovirus - a couple in development, but they are years away at best.

Influenza and norovirus are not the same thing. Influenza is respiratory, norovirus hits the gastrointestinal tract. As a biologist, folks calling a GI bug (almost always norovirus) the flu is a pet peeve of mine. But in either case the OP is correct - staying home if you work a service job makes sense in every way but, unfortunately, one. Too many service workers just can't afford to do it.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
24. thank you for that info. I think I'm confusing this report with the report of a flu strain in TX
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 08:02 PM
Dec 2013

that has killed several people. I just googled the earlier report and the strain in TX that has killed 13 is H1N1. thanks again

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
4. You are especially correct about that last part, KansDem!
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:12 PM
Dec 2013

It's been a while since my food service days, but the thought of taking a day off -- even if I could have afforded it, which I couldn't have -- was impossible. No doctor's note, no day off...and do you have any idea how hard it is to get into a doctor on the same day?!

And from what I understand, that 'policy' hasn't changed much. Which means you have to be able to afford at least two days off (one you're sick on, and one you go to the doctor's on) and the doctor himself ($25 copays may sound nice to a lot of people, but that's a lot of money to most restaurant workers!) just so you're not infecting other people!

That's insane.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
9. And even if you could
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:58 PM
Dec 2013

get to see the doctor the same day, who the hell could sit in a waiting room while spewing nasty liquid from both ends and feeling like your innards have been speared by a hundred scimitars...

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
19. Naw, Captain Tripps was coughing, not shitting
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:44 PM
Dec 2013

...Probably because ending the world in a fecal tide comes a little close to home, where King's novels are concerned.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
11. "it takes fewer particles of this virus to make you very sick"
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:16 PM
Dec 2013

Methinks someone doesn't know science. Particles? It's a virus.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
20. here
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:44 PM
Dec 2013

What Is a Virus? Infectious Acellular Particles
www.scienceprofonline.org/microbiology/what-is-a-virus.html Cached
Although they may seem to behave as living things, viruses are actually acellular, nonliving particles. Viruses are

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
21. Viruses ARE particles
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:47 PM
Dec 2013

Thing is a virus isn't alive. They're not organisms. They're just little bits of DNA or RNA, sometimes with a molecule or three of lipid protien around them. "Particle" is the proper term for an individual virus.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
22. A virus is made up of particles, but it's not a particle.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 07:52 PM
Dec 2013

Viruses are made up of three particles: genetic material made from DNA or RNA; a protein coat; and sometimes an envelope of lipids that surround the protein coat.

Humans are made up of particles too, but we don't call ourselves particles.

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
25. I don't know if that's what I had in October, but I was never so sick in my life.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jan 2014

I threw up every 15 minutes for over 36 hours and I won't even mention the other end. Unbelievable. I actually felt too sick to go to the hospital. It took 2 weeks to feel normal again. I'm 58 & have had my share of viruses, but this one took the cake. Ran a fever for 4 days.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
30. That sounds like food poisoning. I had it
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jan 2014

from bad ranch dressing once, had same symptoms as you. I actually began to wonder if I was going to die. Sitting on toilet, puking in trash can. Would not wish it in my worst enemy, and now I am MILITANT about food safety.

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
31. Could be. Did you run a fever? That's why I thought virus.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:24 PM
Jan 2014

Man, the whole trash can toilet scenario brought back memories! I remember being so exhausted I would try to sleep on the bathroom floor so I wouldn't have to walk so far in 15 minutes. Yeesh. Glad you got through it too. I can so relate to you wondering if you were going to die. I was just so exhausted having those attacks every 15 minutes for so long. No sleep. I am also careful with food now too--just in case. I NEVER want to experience that again!

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
32. I don't remember if I had a fever, it was
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jan 2014

about 15 yrs ago. I guess I did tho, I remember sweating and shivering...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,716 posts)
26. Friend of mine was just in the hospital for a couple of days
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jan 2014

with something he said they diagnosed as "viral gastroenteritis." Don't know if it was this particular bug, but it was probably some kind of norovirus. He was pretty sick but recovered quickly.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
27. This is the 2nd time I've had norovirus
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 03:21 AM
Jan 2014

The 1st time I got it from a patient, it spread throughout the unit I worked on the health dept shut us down and we could not discharge anyone for 2 weeks, patient zero was from a nursing home.
Just getting over it this week, my husband had it and I started symptoms on Sunday, I loaded up on zofran and fluids, feeling better today.

pansypoo53219

(20,977 posts)
29. i highly recommend the book-'the coming plague'.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 05:55 AM
Jan 2014

non fiction page turner. all the work the CDC has done.

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