The RW cherry picks everything that every Democrat says in this same manner, or worse.

Kind of hard to feel bad when they get their own shit back in their faces.

or is he telllng them that when they're grown up that they should pick 15 or 16 year old women? His wife was that age when he married her. How old was he?

Which is a shame, because his ignorance can be exposed by other things that he's said without taking them out of context.

The fact that he's giving this advice to young boys changes this how?

...but it's sure as hell better than telling older men to marry young girls, which is how some places have spun this.

So he's telling boys to marry in their teens. Great. And the reasons are the same. His reasons for marrying women before they're 20 are pretty damn misogynistic in and of itself, don't you think?

But I still think it's worse to encourage old guys to marry 15 year olds than it is to encourage young guys to marry 15 year olds.

so I asked in another post in this thread if he's actually telling them boys themselves to marry at 15. Or if he's just telling them that when they happen to marry themselves, whenever that may be, that they should pick them young. Whichever it is, I stand by what I said. It's misogynist whatever the context. Wagging fingers at us liberals for taking it out of context is beyond ridiculous.

Taking it as him advising older guys to go out and marry 15-year olds is. (which I've seen done).

He's telling a story about advice that he gave to one particular young man who had his young girlfriend with him.

People went out of their way to say they were mad about it only because they thought he was talking about older guys? Uh huh...

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like since I'm not arguing your point, and you agree with mine, you're just saying I'm lying about what I've seen.

That's fine. Have a great New Year.

I don't agree with what he said.

the female will stay stupid & pliable without a mind of her own? Ooooooookayyyyy.

It's still an extraordinarily sexist comment, and it's encouraging the old Xtian adage "Get 'em young 'n keep 'em dumb!"

by the time she turns twenty, to his theocratic God-n-gunz rant, somehow elevate him in your estimation?

He is telling a young man to marry a 15 year old girl, and the other bullshit about being a good cook and not waiting until she is a 20 year old maid is just as loathsome.
By your words we shall know ye!

I never watched the "out of context" video you are referring to, this is the first time I have seen the footage and I find it disgusting. If I saw the "out of context" video I would have at least been disgusted for a shorter period of time so I don't know how shortening this clip could possibly be any worse.

is expose us to 2 more minutes of gibberish

marry at 15 because:
-All 20 year old single women are gold diggers (Pick pockets)
-An adolescent women can be pressured to fulfill your patriarchal desires (pick ducks)

from most of us here. His frame of reference is based solely on his personal experience and of those he is close to.

He married his wife at age 16 (which wasn't uncommon for his generation and his locale) and it worked out very well for him. He sees the world and society through his lens, just like all of us do.

I just can't get worked up about any of this.

Times change and people need to evolve. I don't care where you come from, if you can't accept things like civil rights for Gay people, or interracial marriage (still plenty of those people around) then you need to wake the fuck up. Your childhood is no excuse for being a bigot. Plenty of people from the same background realize what he says is garbage.

I disagree with him on all fronts, but no one is going to change his thinking about any of these things.

I'd rather focus on those who's thinking we can change. I only have so much time & energy and my mama taught me to pick my battles.

But that's just me.

this kind of bigotry. We won't change his mind, but maybe the millions of people who watch him will see him for the neanderthal he is.

but something tells me that the majority of those millions actually agree with him.

You do realize this guy has a master's degree and a much more cosmopolitan life history than the swamp rat he portrays, don't you? Their marriage has also had its ups and downs, due to alcohol and drug abuse, adultery, etc. on the part of Phil, which he claims have all stopped since he got religion. I have seen various reports as to how old Phil and Kay were at the time of their marriage, so I don't really know what the truth is. I take just about anything from this bunch of poseurs with a grain of salt.

He was dirt poor as a child.

He insults African Americans and homosexuals and tells young boys to marry young girls, and you have no problem with this?

Maybe you should re-read my posts.

You're giving him an excuse for his homophobia, sexism, and bigotry, saying that he was "from a culture and time different from most of us here. His frame of reference is based solely on his personal experience" and "I just can't get worked up about any of this."

Children are indoctrinated into their cultures at an early age, whether you agree with that culture or not. It's a simple fact.

Racism, sexism and homphobia don't just happen accidentally...it's a learned attitude.

People can learn to change and adapt over time. I went from a church boy who believed all the crap spewed at him in Sunday service, hearing the evils of gays and sex and believing it all, to a liberal bisexual atheist 30-something year old adult.

Your worldview changed drastically based on that fact.

College did that to me. Everything I learned in science class made sense. Seeing the experiments provide the same results over and over again showed me science worked.

I didn't accept that I was bi until a few years ago.

I went in intending to major in Finance and came out with a degree in Social Work.

biology, chemistry, geology, then anthropology. I wanted to do everything. Now I'm getting my Master's in archaeology.

I would choose archeology or marine biology.

Oh to be young again...

He doesn't want a modern, real woman.

they'll never evolve. we'll just wait for them to die out.

His view of a woman's role is horrid.

I could care less about the age of the boy.

His implication that women should be married off "young and dumb" is what bothers me.

Stop defending him.

Of how the family eats. That's some pretty strong hypocrisy for anyone who was "country raised", and expected to help out anywhere on the food chain that they are needed.
It is Phil'd oft-stated contention that the ways of the "sub-division" (Where Willie & Jase & families live) are contributing to the decline of society. If he is talking about young ladies whose response to anything even mildly unsavory in their lives is "EEEUUUUUWW!!!" and flight from the area, he may have a point.

Christmas on a cracker, that's just an absurd attempt at justification.

In my state, this shit is ILLEGAL:

...well at least you are consistent.

Look: if nothing else, his remarks about 20-year-old women wanting nothing but to "pick your pockets" is misogynistic bullshit, pure and simple. How you can defend this ass is truly a mystery to me.

that he should marry a girl when she's 15 before she can assert her will, is disturbing. I'm just a caveman, but I don't really see how the context makes it less disturbing. Personally I think advising 15 year-olds to get married at all is pretty messed up.

He was saying men when they are getting married, presumably when they are young because most people do, should marry a young girl because he assumes that will mean she won't know how to stand up for herself and will just do what she's told.

If you want a servant, marry a 15 year old girl is some hell of a context, Tx4. I have no idea at all why you think this sexis, atatvistic bullshit provides mitigating context.

A good ol boy marries a good ol girl who knows how to dress and clean animals, knows how to cook, who stuck with him through dark times, who still loves him after 50 years of marriage, and he advises a young man to do the same.
The horrors of it all.

Sorry to break up the hate fest going on over these people, but I actually watch and enjoy the show and without a doubt, Miss Kay runs that house. She is the boss. Corrie is the boss of her house and Missy is the boss of her house.
They are all strong women.