His horrific executions are done to be an example for the rest.

I do believe that his days are numbered. When he is gone will the nation move toward reconciliation with the south? I doubt it. I think another dictator will take his place.

China's media is tightly controlled, as is ours. I'm not saying the story isn't true; for all I know, all the stories are true. But I also think there is an agenda at work to make sure our public stays disgusted by the North Korean regime, disgusted enough to support any action against NK when the time comes.

It's nothing like ours. Imagine Dick Cheney as editor for every outlet. That's what China is like. All the stories are pro-China.

We don't have all the controls over the internet that China does -- yet. But our tv, radio, and the few newspapers that are left are very, very slanted. It's useless to watch/read any of it that I've seen.

I'm not saying there isn't any difference between America and China; any fool can see that there is. But it's a difference in degrees, and if we keep going down the road we've been on, the difference in degrees will be much less.

Fox news has no public editor, yet most people either don't know this or don't care and wingnuts get to pretend that Fox is the journalistic flip side to sources like the NY Times which police themselves. The predictable result is a collection of hacks which produce "news" that has no real credibility with anyone other than morans and those suffering from old age dementia.

I don't know if anyone was executed at all. Our media is full of shit. I'm supposed to believe China's?

This isn't even a news story.

That's horrible. I bet people are on egg shells around him.

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ps: dogs won't be starving in 3 days!

I'd see if it was true. To clean up maybe they could have used white phosphorus?

Should we ask Rodman?

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Sometimes I wish spell check hadn't made my mind so lazy.

That's the message we get from corporate media lots of mornings. Kim Jong-Un had his own uncle murdered, because he did not clap enthusiastically enough when Kim Jong-Un was selected as Supreme Leader of North Korea.

And now we learn it might have been in a really horrible way!

Sabrina1 made what I think is an important point in this thread about strip searching in America, ...but it is relevant to any issue connected to our increasingly corporate and authoritarian government.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4193570

Neither she nor anyone else no matter what they are accused of, should be treated like a criminal until it is determined that they are a criminal. After which they should serve their sentence during which time they should be treated humanely.

It's sad when we have to say 'but we're better than prisons in dictatorships'. The comparison should be to other Democratic nations, not to third world countries run by dictators.

The comparison should be to other Democratic nations, not to third world countries run by dictators.

When was the last time our corporate media compared any aspect of our police and prison system to, say, Norway's? Or our educational system to Finland's, or New Zealand's? Or our health care system to ANY of any of the democratic, developed countries that manage to provide actual care to citizens without brutally impoverishing them? When was the last time corporate media directed our attention to countries that routinely score well above us now on lists of well being and government effectiveness for people? When are Americans ever given even a glimpse of what these countries do, and what life is like for people there?

In our media, it is as though these places, these systems, do not even exist.

Instead, we are fed a steady diet of comparisons of ourselves to some of the most oppressive places on earth.

Why? In order to feed our sense of complacency and to normalize and minimize the outrages we are increasingly being taught to accept: mass surveillance of our private communications, rampant and increasing poverty and inequality, strangling of our free press and persecution of whistleblowers, chilling of speech and brutal suppression of dissent, and replacement of our representative system of government by a thinly disguised "pay to play" facsimile.

The warping of values and distortion/downgrading of what we accept as "normal" or "necessary" is a fundamental goal of authoritarian propaganda. Corporate propaganda floods us with comparisons of ourselves to North Korea, to Iran, or to Afghanistan, because the authoritarian state they are constructing cannot tolerate public comparison to the countries we SHOULD be comparing ourselves to.

To the countries we SHOULD be comparing ourselves to.

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of execution? Yes, he wanted his uncle out of the way for political reasons, but a clean, simple traditional execution would achieve that.

Epic urban legend status