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FloriTexan

(838 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:07 PM Jan 2014

Texas Law Won't Allow Pregnant Woman Off Life Support

From the attached link, Marlise Munoz was 14 weeks pregnant when she suffered a pulmonary embolism the week after Thanksgiving:

"Electric shocks and drugs started her heart again and it continued beating with mechanical support, but her brain waves were completely flat. She had gone without breathing for too long to ever recover.

But when the heartbroken family was ready to say goodbye, hospital officials said they could not legally disconnect Marlise from life support. At the time she collapsed, she was 14 weeks’ pregnant.

And because doctors could still detect a fetal heartbeat, state law says Marlise Munoz’s body -- against her own and her family’s wishes -- must be maintained as an unwilling incubator.

'That poor fetus had the same lack of oxygen, the same electric shocks, the same chemicals that got her heart going again,” Machado said. “For all we know, it’s in the same condition that Marlise is in.'

Because of the fetus’ poor prognosis, the family has said publicly that they want to allow it to die peacefully, along with its mother.

But after the bewildered family protested the fine print in the law during television interviews shortly before Christmas, the case exploded into an online argument between vehement anti-abortion and abortion-rights factions."

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/columnists/jacquielynn-floyd/20140103-texas-denies-pregnant-woman-s-grieving-family-the-right-to-say-goodbye.ece

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This is so sad and totally unacceptable to me. I hope they are able to lawyer up and are able to find peace.

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Texas Law Won't Allow Pregnant Woman Off Life Support (Original Post) FloriTexan Jan 2014 OP
Hmmmmmm where are the limited government conservatives? LittleBlue Jan 2014 #1
conservative kardonb Jan 2014 #13
You are right. madfloridian Jan 2014 #2
Who will pay for this... FloriTexan Jan 2014 #3
Have those "pro-life" groups foot the bills. Archae Jan 2014 #4
Yes, a good lawyer... madfloridian Jan 2014 #11
They don't care about the fetus either, not really. herding cats Jan 2014 #5
"For all we know, it's in the same condition that Marlise is in." panader0 Jan 2014 #6
It's still too early. LisaL Jan 2014 #7
More proof that the anti choicers sufrommich Jan 2014 #8
That is horrifying. Barack_America Jan 2014 #9
Washington state is one. Some posted the entire list. I found out when I began doing EOL planning. freshwest Jan 2014 #10
This is macabre. And it's why state legislatures and governerships matter. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #12
Example of why the "poor men" assholes (everywhere, not DU specifically) can take their fee-fees and nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #14
Texas treats women as corn husks now Politicub Jan 2014 #15
Kick madfloridian Jan 2014 #16
This is Hell for this family. NOBODY should be able to override their and the mother's wishes. Triana Jan 2014 #17
Well said. madfloridian Jan 2014 #18
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
1. Hmmmmmm where are the limited government conservatives?
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:18 PM
Jan 2014

Oh look, suddenly the "get the government out of my life or we'll secede" crowd is nowhere to be seen

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
13. conservative
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jan 2014

where are the "compassionate " conservatives ? Nowhere , only Party Apparatchiks left , lockstep Repukelicons .

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
2. You are right.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jan 2014

I fear too many on the right love the fetus, will protect it above all else....but after it's born they show no concern.

It is sad.

FloriTexan

(838 posts)
3. Who will pay for this...
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jan 2014

I hope some good lawyer will step up and sue the crap out of the State of Texas. Maybe some good can come out of this situation. This poor family.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
4. Have those "pro-life" groups foot the bills.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:43 PM
Jan 2014

All of them.

Even money the "pro-life" groups will quite rapidly end up saying let the mother and baby die in peace.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
5. They don't care about the fetus either, not really.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jan 2014

These Republican politicians who support laws such as this, really only care about how easy it is to exploit our biological desire to protect our young. They've exploited religious beliefs and twisted laws like pretzels to turn these fetuses, and the women's wombs they reside in, into political footballs. They've managed to disconnect their followers from having the same response once the child becomes verbal by laying the blame on the child's lazy parents for needing social services in the first place. After all, those lazy parents are just having those children to exploit the system and get more money from the government!

Obviously they were right in thinking it would work to create a political wedge. It's been an ace in their pocket now for forty years.


panader0

(25,816 posts)
6. "For all we know, it's in the same condition that Marlise is in."
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jan 2014

Why don't they know? Can't the doctors determine the state of the fetus?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
8. More proof that the anti choicers
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jan 2014

aren't really the least bit compassionate,they are motivated by their desire for control.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
9. That is horrifying.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jan 2014

Her poor family.

Anyone happen to have a list of those 12 states? I'm having a hard time of tracking them down.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. Washington state is one. Some posted the entire list. I found out when I began doing EOL planning.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 08:18 PM
Jan 2014

Pregnancy negates the wishes of those who do not wish to be kept alive by artificial means here, invalidating the will of the person who would like to be allowed to pass on without support.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
14. Example of why the "poor men" assholes (everywhere, not DU specifically) can take their fee-fees and
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jan 2014

stick them where the sun don't shine!

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
17. This is Hell for this family. NOBODY should be able to override their and the mother's wishes.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 10:27 PM
Jan 2014

NOBODY.

This is immoral and frankly macabre and sickening.

Yes, were ARE the "small government" damn conservatives?

Talk about your DEATH PANELS. There you go. Republicans railed against death panels. Now they ARE the death panels. Bastards. They have effectively sentenced this poor family to Hell.

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