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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhos is the best lead singer in Rock history?
I'm talking only the voice, no credit for songwriting or creative chops. Who had the best pure vocal instrument?
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Burton Cummings | |
2 (5%) |
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Freddie Mercury | |
21 (55%) |
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Chuck Negron | |
0 (0%) |
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Other (Because I'm old, and most of my choices are no longer performing) | |
15 (39%) |
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Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Not even close, imo...
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)brewens
(13,589 posts)Freddie could write, play, sing and work the crowd like no one else. Who else except maybe McCartney? I think Freddie passed him in those last couple of good years.
avebury
(10,952 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_live_performances
Queen's performance at Live Aid was voted by a large selection of musicians and critics to be the greatest live show of all time.[1]
Edit to add:
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)closely followed by:
Bruce Dickinson
Rob Halford
early Geoff Tate
(just off the top of my head)
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)never got into Queensryche that much.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)so I'm not poo pooing but rather throwing out an easily overlooked alternative.
Initech
(100,079 posts)I love Queensryche, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and Dio, but read this:
Over the course of the band's next shows, Wilton, Rockenfield, and Jackson debated whether it was still possible to continue working with Tate.[16] The other band members felt that Tate continued to misbehave, leading Wilton, Rockenfield, and Jackson to "come to the conclusion that they can no longer work or perform with Mr. Tate,"[51] as they felt he "proved many times he was not working as part of a group, but as an individual. He was actively damaging the brand."[16] They called a band meeting on June 5[51] (some sources say June 6[16]). Tate withdrew from this conference call, after which the other band members voted to "[c]onsider Geoff Tate expelled from the band" and "continue to use the Queensrÿche name with a new lead singer".[52]
On June 12, Tate and his wife filed a lawsuit in a Seattle court against his former bandmates, claiming that he was illegally fired from the band.[50] They also sought a preliminary injunction to prevent both the plaintiffs and the defendants from using the Queensrÿche name. On July 13, 2012, the Washington state superior court defeated this motion, as well as a motion for a preliminary summary judgment filed by the defendants. The court ruled that both parties may use the brand Queensrÿche until the next court date. As a result of the judge's preliminary verdict, there are currently two versions of Queensrÿche until the court date or until a settlement determines who officially owns the name and imagery.[3] This court date was originally planned for November 18, 2013, but on August 9, 2013, the Tates filed a motion for continuance, requesting "a minimum 180-day continuance to provide sufficient time for the parties to continue active settlement negotiations without incurring substantial trial preparation costs and, if such efforts fail, to provide sufficient time to complete discovery and properly prepare for what will be a very lengthy trial."[53] The judge granted them two months instead, postponing the court date to January 27, 2014.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queensryche#Queensr.C3.BFche_split_and_legal_proceedings_.282012.29
I'll still listen to O:M as it's one of my favorite albums but I can't support Geoff Tate projects from here on out.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)I would agree that he is a grade A d-bag.
The Todd La Torre fronted Queensrÿche (the real one) is really good. They are laying gigs right now. Unfortunately I'm going to see the Eagles the day they're playing my area. I hope to catch them soon.
Initech
(100,079 posts)Loved the self titled album, it was worlds better than Tate's childish and stupid FU album. Hell I'd definitely say it's one of the best of 2013.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)When you consider that Blackbird and Helter Skelter are sung by the same person it's pretty darned impressive.
I voted for Mercury, though
mtnester
(8,885 posts)Sometimes it is "make up a band of 5 of the best bass players, still alive", or "make up a band of 5 best drummers, deceased"
In answer to your questions, Ozzy inevitably is always THE voice of hard/heavy/arena rock for us
Rock is so wide open. It would depend on your perspective and what you think Rock is right this moment. Storytelling rock? John Mellencamp, bar no one. Pop rock? Old school rock? Rockabilly?
You should get a lot of varied and fun responses!
(Bass player winner? - Flea)
Winner of most under-rated lead guitarist for our band? Lindsey Buckingham
On edit, I did not see this was a poll...if these are the choicecs, Freddie Mercury..and he would be in our band as well.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)on AXS. Didn't know what I had missed until then. So much to catch up with which I am looking forward to.
John1956PA
(2,654 posts)From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_James_Dio):
1000words
(7,051 posts)Amazing range, technically sound.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)Rob Halford is good, but nobody could lay a hand on Dio.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)...although I also have a strong personal love for Jon Oliva before he lost his range.
Queen was the first rock group I ever heard -- I was raised in an all-country-or-gospel home. In fact, the only reason that one snuck by was because it was a 'soundtrack', not a rock album.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)Also, Rbt. Plant, John Lennon or Paul McCartney, Roger Daltry, Ozzy, Brian Johnson
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The only possible competition Mercury has would be Robert Plant. Maybe Janis Joplin.
Well, in classic rock, anyway. Contemporary metal has Brittney Hayes from "Unleash the Archers" for instance.
In fact if we expand the universe of "rock" to include all subgenres and more languages than English, both mercury and Plant get a good run for their money.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...but it could have included a hundred choices, and I'd have still picked Freddie.
There are also some amazing voices in Pop (a genre into which Queen obviously ventured often and brilliantly), in somewhat obscure, niche genres like Ethereal (Lisa Gerrard...), but I stuck to Rock. Probably my favorite hard rock singer these days is Lzzy Hale of Halestorm:
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Seriously the more I think about it, the more Mercury gets competition, and is only winning within the realm of classic rock. But that's okay, because really the further afield you go, well, the less basis for comparison there is. I don't think mercury could ever beat Shane mcGowan at irish punk, but MdGowan could never on his life do the epic rock Mercury did.
1000words
(7,051 posts)it's not Bob Dylan.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)The golden god.
.... I'm only a moderate Led Zep fan, but the power of Plant's vocals is undeniable. Plus without him, all of the "metal" nominations here would have never existed as they all copied his style.
KT2000
(20,581 posts)and can he tell a story in song!
agree
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Robert Plant was a great screamer hitting incredible notes but thats it..
How about Paul Rodgers. Dude can sing..
Favorite voice of all times...David Ruffin..
My opinion.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)I concur with your assessment of Plant and Mercury, and Dave Ruffin was indeed a great one
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Roger Daltry from The Who
Jon Anderson from Yes
Robert Plant
Sting
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Though, admittedly, Joplin was a solo act at the peak of her career.
BTW, I saw Heart in concert back in 2005 or 6 in Atlantic City - Ann's voice has just gotten deeper and better, believe it or not - I'm not sure if she can still hit the high notes, but it's even lovelier (IMO) than when she was younger.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)And Eddie Vedder.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)She is the best.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Ann sang 98% of the lead vocals for Heart
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Note to self, don't smoke pot & post.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)I've never heard of a couple of your choices.
Who are Burton Cummings and Chuck Negron ....
speaking as a child of the sixties that I am.
You missed about a dozen more major rock singer in your poll, I might add.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)And yeah, I knew better than to try to make it all-inclusive, so I just went for those who I remember hitting pure notes with amazing range. (Shit, I LOVE Joe Cocker, but he didn't make my list due to the parameters I noted in the OP.)
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Rock was about the antithesis of great vocal abilities. It was more about the idea of authenticity and personal vision.
From the standpoint of purely vocal chops, most of the important singers suck. That was kind of the point.
Bob Dylan, the most important, had a voice like a frog. Roger Daltry of the Who looked great but was barely adequate. Freddy Mercury had a great voice but Queen is trivial in the history of rock, Latecomers with Broadway influences.
Van Morrison has both a great voice and important original artistry.
Most of the great vocalists of the era were black soul singer. James Brown, Otis Redding, and many others.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Any specific reason for saying that?
I think he's in the top echelon, but maybe I'm missing something.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Quadrophenia still brings chills to me. But he's superb on all their albums.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)He is good at looking the part and swinging the mike and mike stand around. Very theatrical.
Neither an interesting voice, nor a powerful voice. I saw him up close at one of the big Tommy performances with the Who.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)kidding... to each his own!
I saw them back in 1980 in Denver and had a great time. But my preference is albums over concerts. I spent countless hours as a teenager with Quadrophenia and Who's Next.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)LumosMaxima
(585 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)and I would put Jimi Hendrix as second.
TBF
(32,062 posts)To Jeff Buckley singing Hallelujah. His album was really very strong. And gone way too soon like many other shining stars .
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)That is all.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)Of course. With an honourable mention to Brit Daniel from Spoon.
on edit: I'm guessing that a bunch of folk who think Freddy Mercury and Robert Plant were amazing singers may not have heard of Spoon, so here ya go...
BootinUp
(47,156 posts)She ranks up there I figure.
I also like Patty Smyth's voice
House of Roberts
(5,174 posts)She has brilliantly sung every kind of music there is, almost.
I would put Benatar above Smyth, but it's close.
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Quixote1818
(28,943 posts)Journeyman
(15,035 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I swear he hit 3 octaves easily and the tone was pure.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)Hands down.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)civillawyer
(55 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Jesus Christ Superstar, The Temple (Gillan comes in at 1:53)
And of course, with Deep Purple
End of thread.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)choie
(4,111 posts)and Ann Wilson
DJ13
(23,671 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)best show designer.. but not the best singer.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)CAG
(1,820 posts)Skittles
(153,164 posts)sweetloukillbot
(11,024 posts)dembotoz
(16,806 posts)TomClash
(11,344 posts)Lead for the only Band that mattered.
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)I loved the Doors.
spanone
(135,841 posts)Paul McCartney
Nilsson
Billy Joel
Eric Carmen
etc etc etc
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)and no-one else even comes close.
Bennyboy
(10,440 posts)Jezz, all men and only one woman, Linda Rondstat? Not Janis? or Aretha (rock?)? How about Ann Wilson from Heart?
Van Morrison. Roger Daltry. Rick Danko. (personally Jerry Garcia is my favorite singer of all time though it is more the feeling of his voice than his voice itself. So comforting, like sitting on the porch in a creaky rocking chair.
Newer people are:
LP (an amazing voice!)
Carolyn Wonderland (sings like Aretha and Janis on a five day bender)
Jim James (My Morning Jacket)
Eddie Vedder
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Heart got big in the 70's and bigger in the 80's. David Coverdale would be on my list too, but he got his start with Deep Purple before Whitesnake. My list would include Steve Perry, Lou Gramm, Brad Delp, and Dennis DeYoung. I know it's popular to bash AOR but god these guys could sing.
Eddie Vedder is a great frontman and a great songwriter but a medicore vocalist. If we're putting someone in contention from the 90's I'd go with Chris Cornell.
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)And I've seen Freddy live - no disrespect, he's on the top shelf - but there are quite a few. Greg Walker, who sang for Santana in the late '70's, has an amazing set of pipes
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)
timbre is basically a subjective exercise. A matter of personal taste.
Freddie Mercury, Robert Plant, Ian Gillan, Rob Halford, Bon Scott, Dio, Steve Perry, Steve Walsh, and Steven Tyler all had great total range.
Axl Rose, Chris Cornell, and Sting had even a bit more total range.
I like all of them, they are all great singers with unique timbre.
My favorites out of the above are Plant, Freddie, Ian Gillan and Sting.
I like Ann Wilson, John Fogerty, Pink, Don Henley, Roy Orbison, Linda Ronstadt, Sam Cooke, and Van Morrison just as much as vocalists because of the timbre of their voices. And lots of others.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)He has a quality in his voice I've never heard anywhere else. And.......Gawd.......what a great name!
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,838 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)He put on a great show back in the day but his technique was piss poor and you can hear him tearing his voice to shreds if you watch live clips of them.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Is she the best? Probably not.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,838 posts)(Doobies)
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)You however, get awarded several points for including the highly underrated Negron and Cummings among your few selections
klook
(12,155 posts)Here's Steve Marriott and the Small Faces on French TV, with a smokin' version featuring guest vocalist P.P. Arnold:
I always loved "Lazy Sunday" too:
... and "Itchycoo Park" and many others by these guys, of course; but these two are among the tunes that always get my blood pumping and/or make me smile.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)underrated rock musician in my book.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)had a 4 octave range, and Elvis and Bono have called his the greatest voice they've ever heard.
klook
(12,155 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)Looks like a near unanimous opinion.
Ohio Joe
(21,756 posts)heh... No, I love him but seriously, I voted for Freddie
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)I'm a fan of Maynard James Keenan. I love Tool and A Perfect Circle, and MJK's side project Puscifer.
RGinNJ
(1,021 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)So freakin' sad she'll never sing again.
I like Cher and Elton John too!
Elvis and Roy Orbison...that's about it for me.
Tikki
(14,557 posts)But most remember Freddie So I say Freddie, also.
Tikki
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)flvegan
(64,408 posts)Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)The Man of a Thousand Voices.
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Tikki
(14,557 posts)for all the Robin Zander fans
Bun E. Carlos pretty much the god of sticks...
Tikki
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)I recently took up the drums and I can't play along with Bun E. to save my life. Many drummers are fairly easy to keep up with; he blows me away.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Most of the time he plays with Brian Wilson but he plays with other bands.
The only singers he goes out of the way to see is Robin Zander and Polly Harvey.
Robin Zander really has an instrument.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)he still has quite a bit. We saw them just last year and it was a great show.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)There is no best. Period.
Journeyman
(15,035 posts)and that choice of course subject to change as time and exigencies change us all.
For how boring life would be if our tastes and beliefs in fashion and entertainment remained constant from any given moment or point. How very boring and uninteresting indeed.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Pretty damned good pipes
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Zo Zig
(600 posts)Plant, Jagger, Daltrey, Mercury.
The egos that no cage could contain.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)catbyte
(34,393 posts)Mz Pip
(27,448 posts)That deaf dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pin ball.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Mz Pip
(27,448 posts)Janis Joplin come to mind.
H2O Man
(73,558 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Warpy
(111,267 posts)Where is Roy Orbison?
How about James Brown?
And the Wilson sisters from Heart?
The list is too limited. With only 3 contenders from a narrow period, the choice is just too obvious. The only one who was at all remarkable was Freddie Mercury.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I'll throw Jim Kerr of Simple Minds into the thread just because he was quite good, too.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)You could at least offer one choice from this century.
Of your interesting choices offered, Freddy Mercury, hands down, not even close.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)He is The Voice after all.
Lots of good choices here though.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)My real personal choice would be, (at least for me) Gackt.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'"
Bellamy Brothers "Let your love flow"
The Beach Boys "God Only Knows"
The Who "I Can See For Miles" (live performance)
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)So I'll go will my favorite and prolly the lone vote. Phil Anselmo from Pantera. I love hearing him.
KG
(28,751 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)I mean, she can do this too
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)The
(3 posts)It's got a be either Millie Vinelli or Tiny Tim!
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)But not as the front man for Tin Machine.
Yeah. That wasn't the best time. I don't even have those CDs.
Tveil
(108 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)I'll say Mick Jagger.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Freddy Mercury is the only one that could possibly sing with him without looking just sad.
otohara
(24,135 posts)This concert will blow your mind!
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)he'd have popped up quickly.
I'm not getting it on voice alone. You sure you aren't rolling up everything else he is doing and giving him the credit due amazing overall performance because he is also singing? Would you say the same if the band was other people and he was just the pipes?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)whatever the name is of the dude from Muse way before those other geezers.
sad-cafe
(1,277 posts)should be an option!
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Throw in Donovan and Taj Mahal. And Rick Danko and Warren Zevon, god bless them.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Lots of people only know his singing from "Mississippi Queen", which doesn't give a good idea of what his voice is like. Both songs below from the album, "Climbing!".
For Yasgur's Farm
Theme For An Imaginary Western
Of the choices given though, I'd side with Mercury.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Older: Stevie Nicks, Steve Walsh (Kansas), Bob Seger (though I don't like a lot of his stuff), Gregg Allman (not a great voice, but can't imagine Allman Bros. classics without it), Tom Petty (ditto--fits the songs), Geddy Lee (yep, suck it).
Well shit, adding two more: Maynard Keenan, Peter Gabriel.
blm
(113,063 posts)all the engineer had to do was sit back and WITNESS.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)He IS the Rolling Stones.
FreeJoe
(1,039 posts)Shrek
(3,980 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)mackerel
(4,412 posts)or Chris Cornell
dionysus
(26,467 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Ok, I voted Mercury....
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)But maybe more for overall artistry than just vocals....
Leith
(7,809 posts)I loved his voice the first second I heard it.
But Jay of Jay and the Americans had a beautiful voice, too. Cara Mia My still gives me shivers:
beevul
(12,194 posts)Ok ok, hes not the best.
But theres no question hes the most unique.
And hes got everyone elses name beat by a mile.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)he put more excitement into his 30 minute opening set than Dio did in 2 hours. And I LOVE Dio. Balls to the Wall is one of the best power metal albums of all time.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)Balls to the Wall album was great. I never cared for anything else they did.
VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)It's Geddy Lee!
Oh, and Lennon and McCartney were both pretty good too.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)MissMillie
(38,559 posts)Big Brother and the Holding Company
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Jimi Hendrix, Steven Tyler.