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Your Death Notice (Original Post) kpete Mar 2012 OP
Proud to be the first to kick and rec n/t krispos42 Mar 2012 #1
*Insert Terminator 2 theme here* freshwest Mar 2012 #2
You know those 80's dystopic Sci Fi movies? Ron Obvious Mar 2012 #3
Kick and recommend nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #4
K&R Please recycle... think Mar 2012 #5
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Mar 2012 #6
Awesome. AzDar Mar 2012 #7
We're in a bad place here. The Doctor. Mar 2012 #8
I deny that we are headed for fascism. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #10
There are a couple of key elements missing: The Doctor. Mar 2012 #11
I submit you are mistaken, for all intents and purposes there is only one corporate party Dragonfli Mar 2012 #13
Exactly right. nt crunch60 Mar 2012 #16
Absolutely right. woo me with science Mar 2012 #27
And you tell me why... surfdog Mar 2012 #12
A difference without distinction, neither has any such authority and they both Dragonfli Mar 2012 #14
So sad, So true. Fuddnik Mar 2012 #9
"This will persist until the United States has signed a peace treaty with the Concept of Terrorism" saras Mar 2012 #15
Turn yourself in and get a trial treestar Mar 2012 #17
LOL Dragonfli Mar 2012 #18
I agree. Your government has stated you are not entitled to due process so they sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #19
I think the poster I responded to was joking, missing the point entirely, or advocating making Dragonfli Mar 2012 #20
You're the one complaining they don't get trials treestar Mar 2012 #22
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #23
I'd like to think that. But all too many Americans sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #24
How can I get a trial if there aren't any charges filed? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #26
"WE'RE AT WAR, YOU FILTY ANIMAL, YOU DON'T GET ANY." BlueIris Mar 2012 #21
FANTASTIC! excuse not to write Mar 2012 #25
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
3. You know those 80's dystopic Sci Fi movies?
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:11 AM
Mar 2012

Running man, Escape from NY, etc? We're living it now.

Personally I feel time took a wrong turn after the 2000 election and we've been living in Biff World (Back to the Future 2) ever since. Come back Marty, and fix things!

 

The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
8. We're in a bad place here.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:56 AM
Mar 2012

Wonder what our resident deniers think?

(No, I'm saying those that deny we're headed for Fascism™, not those that deny Obama isn't a willing participant)

I'll get my asbestos undies now. Some types of discrimination are lost on folks.

 

The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
11. There are a couple of key elements missing:
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
Mar 2012

Total one party control of elections.

They don't have that yet.

Others are only degrees shy of being full-blown 'fascist'.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
13. I submit you are mistaken, for all intents and purposes there is only one corporate party
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 04:26 PM
Mar 2012

Only on wedge issues is a choice available and then only on the flavor of the Corporate party (C) that will continue to serve corporations over citizens by any means necessary.

Ask yourself one question,
"what is the real difference between the financial and military goals of the Neo-Liberals and the GOP?"

After reading material at PPI and Third way, I see only differences on the sales pitch, not the product.

I would ask that you reevaluate the need for a one named party in a Fascism that develops within a false two choice paradigm.
Thus far we have only seen it's development in multiple party choice environments. We are witnessing something new, a way to hide the fascism within a false choice of two competing COLLABORATORS.

Easier to hide the fascism, easier to disseminate false hope to the serfs, they are getting better at this, that is the difference.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
27. Absolutely right.
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 07:11 PM
Mar 2012

The two party system at this point is a facade and a tool with which the elites manipulate blocs of voters with different interests.

We need to point out the collusion between the parties every single time.

 

surfdog

(624 posts)
12. And you tell me why...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:18 PM
Mar 2012

A local police officer has the Authority to kill a suspect without due process and the president of United States doesn't ?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
14. A difference without distinction, neither has any such authority and they both
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 04:35 PM
Mar 2012

do it anyway.

We know what cops do, but did you know that they only have the authority to kill someone if there is no other way to protect oneself and any citizens in danger?

It is not legal to shoot a kid and put a drop piece on him no matter what you have been told. Do they do it anyway? OF COURSE, that is how thugs behave on the top as well as the bottom these days just as such types have behaved throughout history. King or street enforcer, once this sort of thing is accepted that means the thugs are in control.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
15. "This will persist until the United States has signed a peace treaty with the Concept of Terrorism"
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 08:38 PM
Mar 2012

You know, if the war on terrorism created lots of terrorism, and the war on drugs created lots of drugs, maybe this right-wing war on pleasure might not work out so bad after all... nah, we'd just end up with a lot of inferior government pleasure.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. I agree. Your government has stated you are not entitled to due process so they
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 03:48 AM
Mar 2012

condemn you to death without charges, without trial, you're already convicted and sentenced. But you should turn yourself in. And what would you say? Assuming you are not blown away before you get to say anything.

I guess you could say you want to appeal the conviction and the sentence. But since the process has been aborted up to this point, what makes you think you can demand an appeal which is basically the end of a process we've been told does not work when we are 'at war'?

How would that work? Who would you turn yourself in to? And since you are targeted for death anyone you turn yourself in to has been given the right to kill you.

The question is 'what would you be turning yourself in for'? To make it easier for them to carry out the Death Sentence?



Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
20. I think the poster I responded to was joking, missing the point entirely, or advocating making
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 04:07 AM
Mar 2012

oneself easier to kill by showing up to be executed in a "civilized manner"

I have to say Sabrina, the rabbit hole is far behind us and things are becoming absurdly surrealistic in this dystopia I suddenly find myself in.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. You're the one complaining they don't get trials
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 05:04 AM
Mar 2012

The only way to do that is to turn themselves in. Now you're claiming that if they did that, they would not get the trial. So you're admitting now there is no way to try them?

No, you just want to complain, that's all. And on behalf of known terrorists. So we should just leave them alone so they can make their plans and carry them out? Because you've come up with no better solution. And you're laughing about it. Funny, when their victims aren't going to be laughing.

Response to treestar (Reply #22)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. I'd like to think that. But all too many Americans
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 03:19 PM
Mar 2012

have been more than willing to go along with every new violation of their rights. I agree regarding the 'rabbit hole' but maybe we are approaching a tipping point as more people learn that it was not just Republicans which kind of kept us busy for a long time. Now we know this dissolution of rights appears to be bi-partisan.

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