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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs a Dog owner for most of my life--I can't even fathom strapping my dog on top of my car in a cage.
And even drive half a block.
I couldn't imagine my family---wife and three kids--- allowing me to do it. They would look at me and think I lost my mind.
If truly there was one disqualifying reason for Romney to not be President--- I would put this right on top.
BTW: It is the first time I've ever heard someone do this....
liberal N proud
(60,339 posts)TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)I believe it indicates someone with a deep seated mental problem. It is just too egregious to do such a thing to any animal. It shows a mentality that is subhuman in some way. There is no way to justify such an action ever. I would strap that bastard to the top of a car and drive about 1000 miles and see how he likes it. He is a poor excuse for human existence as is anyone who even remotely believes that such an action is ok.
trumad
(41,692 posts)It clearly shows a deep seated mental problem...
I think Romney has sever mental issues just by watching him talk and flip at the drop of a dime.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Romney is the most dangerous kind of sociopath. He looks kind of innocuous but he is very dangerous.
I remember a scene in the Pirates Of The Caribbean when the captain of the British frigate is taking fire from both sides at the end of the movie and the British captain is walking to the back of the ship as it is being splintered by cannon fire from the pirates and the ghost ship. The crew is begging to return fire and the captain is bulge eyed and jsut muttering "but I had a deal I had a deal" as his crew dies with him as the merciless cannon fire just decimates the ship to sawdust.
That is the kind of leader Romney would be. He is just so dangerous and goofy and scary. Imagine him sending us to war with Iran and then not giving orders for our troops to engage.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Born and raised to rise to prominence in the US, he never had a chance to think for himself.
Arkansas Granny
(31,523 posts)When you can laugh about another being's distress, whether it be human or animal, it proves to me that you have no empathy at all for the suffering of others.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)...themselves.
WTF
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Certainly, though, Romney has never expressed any regret over his actions.
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)calimary
(81,421 posts)The inanimate objects - the luggage and supplies. THOSE are what should have been strapped to the roof of the car for that long a drive. TWELVE HOURS??!?!?!??! Yeah. Their stuff goes inside and the poor dog gets tied to the damn roof of the damn car. I read that Seamus ran away when they finally arrived at their destination. No wonder.
When I think how quietly Goldie rides in the car, curled up into a fraction of her full size, and she'd stay like that for hours - it just a freakin' OUTRAGE!!! I couldn't bear to put her in a cage on top of the car! Worse still, SHE couldn't bear it either! Who would have the heart to do that, other than some cold-hearted schmuck who clearly has no heart? WHAT THE FUCK was that smug, cold-hearted, thoughtless, myopic, detached, unfeeling bastard thinking???? What a heartless bastard!!! As my mother used to say - "heart like a BB." Small and cold and hard.
Hey santorum - THIS is what makes a caring and compassionate member of the human race want to throw up. Shit like this (aside from you, which is a rant for another time and another thread than this one). It tells me everything I need to know about how mitt romney views anything outside his cozy little circle of privilege - it's SO elite that even his own family dog isn't allowed to take part.
CrispyQ
(36,492 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)I shudder thinking of my precious fur-baby cowering in terror like that. She's scared of thunderstorms and huddled against me through an entire basketball game last night. No one who's ever bought a Thundershirt for their dog is going to think Mitt is funny, or sane, or decent one bit.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)It makes me look at the whole Romney clan as a buch of compassionless FREAKS.
trumad
(41,692 posts)His way or the highway.
That's why I love my family... they'd tell me to go fuck myself---we aint putting the dog on the roof.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)not so much. nope.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)You're not a sociopath.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Just ask the Son of Sam.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,134 posts)And, i think he was hating the owner of the dog because it was barking at night.
I don't think he was a dog lover. Just a psychopath.
GAC
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And we certainly can't blame him for being distracted by...
Initech
(100,097 posts)Although it was his dead grandmother not a dog but still...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)he looks at me so sadly, like "why are you doing this to me"?
And in the minivan he has a comfy foam doggy car seat.
But then again I'm a normal person, not a sociopath.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)"This is not going to go away. This is not just some new personal anecdote that will be forgotten tomorrow."
It strikes to the core of a person's humanity, empathy, core sensibilities, what they are willing to do to a living, breathing, loving creature, and especially a wonderful dog.
Anyone who has looked into a dog's eyes and seen a friend there doesn't forget something like this.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)As the non-dog person in a family of five that had a dog for 11 years, I was horrified to hear this.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)At least that's what Mitt said. And I thought David Berkowitz was the only one with a direct line of communication to his dog.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)...public office would make this known.
This is something I would keep to myself
wow
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)I know Romney is a robot, warped, emotionally stunted. What surprises me is that nobody else said "No. Stop."
BUT
As we've seen, Romney expects to be in charge, not be questioned and doesn't react well to being challenged in any way.
As Brokaw said, business people (who did deals with Romney at Bain) said Romney did well as long as everything followed his Plan A. It was if things got moved to Plan B where he was much LESS impressive.
To me, this means he would be a HORRIBLE President because almost everything ends up as Plan B, C, D .... X, Y or Z.
Things don't go according to plan. As President, you have to be able to call an audible at ANY time.
He would be a disaster as President. I don't know why more people didn't grab onto that little tidbit from Tom Brokaw that election night - I can't even remember which night it was - I think Ohio Primary night.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)ie - NO ONE questions dad's decisions. There were 5 kids and a wife - and this was apparently planned in advance.
It is clear that nothing has caused the Republicans to "like" Romney - and I am sure that they really want to. This is just one of the things that will make him not likable to many in the middle. Not to mention - even his strength, Bain Capital, has enormous real negatives. (This is not a Rove situation of trying to make a real positive, a negative.)
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)he put the dog on the roof instead of the luggage like normal people would. When the dog was so terrified it had runny diarrhea, instead of fixing the problem, by hosing the dog and roof off and drying the dog off and bringing it into the car with the rest of the family, he hosed the dog off and left the dog on the roof. So, now the dog is wet and being driven with the cold wind whipping through his wet fur. Then for some reason Mitt and family think this is a good story to tell.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I think the son knew it wasn't a good story to tell and was getting some back. I could be wrong but I may be right.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)Per the story, Romney, his wife and 5 kids AND THEIR LUGGAGE were loaded into the car. Certainly luggage for 7 people would take more space than the dog.
I think this story will have an impact on those who are not overtly political. I know that there were people who liked John Kerry better after hearing the rather sweet story of him saving his daughter's hamster from drowning - likely as much to save his two young daughters the pain of seeing him drown. The Romney story worked in the complete opposite direction. The strange reflection of the Boston Globe writer that hosing down the dog and car and continuing showed Romney's cool calm decision making is unlikely to be most people's reaction.
This shows a man, who really had little concern for the dog's discomfort. If he somehow did not think it would be abusive to begin with, he should have realized it when the dog got sick. His alternatives then would have been limited and very inconvenient - probably cleaning the dog well and putting him inside - no matter how crowded it was. (If too crowded, they could quickly rent a second car and split the kids and luggage.)
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)the roof of the car.
Santorum's "snob" comment re college had a similar strong effect. She's 10 years old. She oversaw on TV the footage of only his direct quote and immediately responded somewhat in disbelief - "He's a moron".
Yes. Yes, he is.
salin
(48,955 posts)Have had to go out of the country, and have kenneled the dog. Why not? Too CHEAP with all of his millions?
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Presumably this dog was housebroken. Putting him up there is animal abuse in the first place but keeping him up there until the animal was forced to break conditioning and relieve himself inside his crate really amounted to a form of torture. Absolutely disgusting.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)he's not even a very good one. Part of what sociopaths DO is observe human behavior and try to imitate it so as to appear to fit in completely. A better sociopath would KNOW that people love their pets like they are children and either wouldn't DO what Romney did or definitely wouldn't mention it in public later on.
Which leads me to believe he's plain stupid as well.
I have NEVER heard of anyone doing this either. Ever.
snacker
(3,619 posts)I live in a rural area. I've seen a LOT of weird things, but I have NEVER seen a dog in cage strapped to the top of a vehicle...NEVER!
Has anyone ever seen this?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)I am positive that if any of my kids, in all the years we drove to vacations, saw a dog on the roof, they would have demanded we call the state police identifying what the next exit was. I seriously can't imagine what that dog experienced with the car going 65 miles an hour (and that is if Mitt didn't speed!)
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)There are a lot of dog owners in this country who will not take too kindly when they hear this story - over and over again. I make sure to mention it daily on Facebook. I also like to post the picture of Bo inside of the car with President Obama. Bo rides inside, too
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)And he thinks this story helps him?
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)is HYSTERICAL!
hlthe2b
(102,331 posts)If anyone would think to discount it...
then there is one word for them......
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SOCIOPATH
dynasaw
(998 posts)Why he couldn't have either boarded the dog or have it transported. Hasn't he even heard of a trailer? Parsimoniousness combined with cruelty. What a mix.
tblue37
(65,477 posts)inhumane GOPers) cannot be expected to act against his nature.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Now in the cab of those trucks there isn't much room. It was my uncle driving, my mom in passenger seat, me (age 8) on a chair wedged in the middle of the driver and passenger seat and a heavily sedated 45 lb Australian shepherd asleep on the floor by my mom's feet.
It was the only way we could do it - it wasn't pretty or comfortable but the dog had more room than I did.
I can't imagine having money (which Rmoney had plenty of at the time) and thinking dog on the roof is a viable option.
Pisces
(5,602 posts)undergroundpanther
(11,925 posts)seems repug party is sociopath party.look at who they make out as evil..what they hate.the republican party is full of scumbag sociopaths.
Old Troop
(1,991 posts)It was a pig with a pinwheel screaming Whee, Whee, Whee!
Raine
(30,540 posts)as a person. I know all I will ever need to know about Rmoney. I would never have someone like that as a friend or acquintance in realife and I sure don't want them as a leader who will effect me.
Auggie
(31,177 posts)I've never heard of it either
Zanzoobar
(894 posts)LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
I'm having a great time!