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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:01 AM Mar 2012

Santorum: Ich bin ein Puerto Rican-er ("I never said only English should be spoken here. Never...")



SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- Rick Santorum came to Puerto Rico and promptly waded into the emotional debate over the role English should play in the island's future, sparking a furor that led the former Pennsylvania senator to insist his remarks were misreported.

Santorum was forced to repeatedly clarify remarks he made Wednesday, when he said English would have to be the "main language" for Puerto Rico to become a state.

"I never said only English should be spoken here. Never did I even intimate that," Santorum told local reporters gathered in El Capitolio, the island's Capitol building. "What I said was that English had to be spoken as well as other – obviously Spanish is going to be spoken, this would be a bilingual country."

"As the son of an Italian immigrant myself, I continue to believe that English is the language of opportunity in America, under statehood or the current status," Santorum said in the statement. "What I want is for every child in Puerto Rico to speak English fluently, in addition to Spanish of course."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/santorum-says-puerto-rico-should-adopt-english-if-it-hopes-to-be-state/2012/03/15/gIQAAeBKFS_blog.html
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Santorum: Ich bin ein Puerto Rican-er ("I never said only English should be spoken here. Never...") (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 OP
"this would be a bilingual country" d_r Mar 2012 #1
He's a complete idiot and can't avoid saying racist xenophobic crap even when he tries not to. yardwork Mar 2012 #5
+1 think Mar 2012 #6
He didn't mean what he meant liberal N proud Mar 2012 #2
I didn't mean to say "fuck off santorum" whoops think Mar 2012 #3
"I only said they should be speaking 'blah'!!!11!1!" bullwinkle428 Mar 2012 #4
INCOHERENT lukkadairish Mar 2012 #7
I'm glad you put Tuvalu as #8 - because it's nothing to do with the USA muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #9
If our country truly pulled its head out of its ass... backscatter712 Mar 2012 #8
Canada has 2 offical languages muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #11
I know, but I'm personally opposed to having official languages here. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #13
Your approach just didn't sound like "the approach of Canada", that's all muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #15
IIRC, Quebec has gotten pretty hardline on french being official in recent years Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #19
Actually, he said, "Estoy El Puto Rico." MineralMan Mar 2012 #10
"Puto Rico"...exacto LeftinOH Mar 2012 #14
LOL - Romney is visiting Puerto Rico this week-end and can use the same line aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #21
He should give me a call. I can give him several phrases MineralMan Mar 2012 #22
Maybe they thought he said "pato rico" LibertyLover Mar 2012 #23
That's true. MineralMan Mar 2012 #26
These republiclowns amuse bouche Mar 2012 #12
Has he ever traveled outside the U.S.? IcyPeas Mar 2012 #16
That doesn't mean that people can't speak Spanish in their homes... pokerfan Mar 2012 #17
I'm sure that comes later... woo me with science Mar 2012 #18
Hey Rick how about a NEWS FLASH. Mr.Turnip Mar 2012 #20
Flip-flopper! LisaL Mar 2012 #24
Fucking flip flopping loon! He is a LIAR and just makes shit up. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #25

d_r

(6,907 posts)
1. "this would be a bilingual country"
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:11 AM
Mar 2012

Is he saying that the USA would be a bilingual country if Puerto Rico became a state? Or is he saying that Puerto Rico would be a country?

lukkadairish

(122 posts)
7. INCOHERENT
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:47 AM
Mar 2012

Here is another thing. I distinctly recall that as recent as an hour ago that the Republican Talking Machine repeatedly asserts Obama's earthshattering mistake of 'I've been to all 57 states'. WOWEEE BIG OLE FAUX PAS THAT ONE ERE MURICAN KNOWS THERES 50 BLABLABLA
1. the 50 states we all know
2. Puerto Rico
3. Washington DC
4. Guam
5. U.S.V.I.
6. American Samoa
7. Northern Marianas
8. Minor Outlying Island Atoll (Tuvalu)
That is 50 + 7 wingers. If you ridiculed the POTUS for including those delegate territories (Yeah you Romney), why should we give a flying fig about your opinion on them now? Oh Wait.....NOW you need them for your delegate math..........

Most folks in Puerto Rico are bilingual. Are you Rick? Obviously not, or you would be blushing at what they are saying about you right now....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,347 posts)
9. I'm glad you put Tuvalu as #8 - because it's nothing to do with the USA
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:52 AM
Mar 2012
The islands came under Britain's sphere of influence in the late 19th century, when the Ellice Islands were declared a British protectorate by Captain Gibson, R. N. of HMS Curaçao between 9th and 16 October 1892. The Ellice Islands were administered as British protectorate by a Resident Commissioner from 1892 to 1916 as part of the British Western Pacific Territories (BWPT), and later as part of the Gilbert and Ellice Islands colony from 1916 to 1974.

In 1974, the Ellice Islanders voted for separate British dependency status. As a consequence Tuvalu separated from the Gilbert Islands which became Kiribati. Tuvalu became fully independent within the Commonwealth on October 1, 1978. On September 5, 2000, Tuvalu became the 189th member of the United Nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvalu


You've still got your +7 - but you don't get to annex the valuable .tv suffix!

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
8. If our country truly pulled its head out of its ass...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:47 AM
Mar 2012

We'd take the approach of Canada, and though we wouldn't have an official language, all kids would be taught both Spanish and English, just as Canadians are all taught both French and English, and we'd embrace Spanish as being just as American as English.

But I make that proposal and all the xenophobes start running around with their hair on fire.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,347 posts)
11. Canada has 2 offical languages
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:55 AM
Mar 2012
Official Languages Act

The purpose of the Act is to:

ensure respect for English and French and ensure equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in federal institutions;
support the development of English and French linguistic minority communities; and
advance the equal status and use of English and French.
...
Parliamentarians and the public have the right to use either English or French in Parliament. For its part Parliament is required to provide simultaneous interpretation of its debates and other proceedings.
...
All acts of Parliament are enacted, printed and published in both official languages. Also, federal institutions that, pursuant to an act, are required to publish public notices must do so in both English- and French-language publications.
...
http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/html/act_loi_e.php

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
13. I know, but I'm personally opposed to having official languages here.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:04 PM
Mar 2012

Canada can do what it wants.

But I think that establishing official languages is something that's used to alienate, disenfranchise and oppress.

Like I said, since we have 45 million Spanish-speakers in the country, all kids in the U.S. should be required to learn it, just as they're required to learn English, simply because the languages are so commonly used here.

I know, it seems somewhat contradictory.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,347 posts)
15. Your approach just didn't sound like "the approach of Canada", that's all
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:12 PM
Mar 2012

Your post read as if Canada didn't have an official language - just that they taught both. Your approach sounds quite reasonable to me for the USA.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
10. Actually, he said, "Estoy El Puto Rico."
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:52 AM
Mar 2012

What happened was that he asked a Puerto Rican how to say, "I am a Puerto Rican" in Spanish. That's what he was told to say. The reporters just didn't catch it.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
21. LOL - Romney is visiting Puerto Rico this week-end and can use the same line
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 02:25 PM
Mar 2012

I'm almost certain Romney will try to say something in Spanish.

IcyPeas

(21,901 posts)
16. Has he ever traveled outside the U.S.?
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:23 PM
Mar 2012

like to one of them foreign countries (a la palin... wasn't it true she never stepped out the the U.S.)?

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
17. That doesn't mean that people can't speak Spanish in their homes...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:52 PM
Mar 2012

Is he not benevolent?

Santorum told El Nuevo Dia newspaper Wednesday that English is key to developing Puerto Rico's economy. "I have no doubt that one of the requirements that will be put forth to Congress is a requirement that English would be universal here on the island," he said. "That doesn't mean that people can't speak Spanish in their homes, or in their business, or on the street, but that everyone would have a proficiency in English."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/03/santorum-claims-he-was-misquoted-on-englishinpuerto-117652.html

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
20. Hey Rick how about a NEWS FLASH.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 02:24 PM
Mar 2012

Most relatively young people in Puerto Rico? THEY ALREADY SPEAK ENGLISH FLUENTLY!

This whole thing about wether people in Puerto Rico need to be taught English is largely irrelevant because schools in Puerto Rico ALREADY teach English and they have done so for decades.

This entire debate that Santorum and friends want to have is entirely pointless because they are asking Puerto Rico to do something it generally ALREADY DOES.

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