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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFort Lee Lane Closings - what was the end game?
The Fort Lee lane closings only stopped when the PA ED Foye reversed them.
If he had not stepped in, what would have happened? Where they going to be continued? What was the plan? Was there a plan?
Where Christie's people waiting for someone to cry "uncle" or "pay a ransom"
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,849 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 11, 2014, 01:58 PM - Edit history (1)
Our State Senate has refused to seat anyone who was up for Wallace's seat.
WhiteTara
(29,721 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I think this was an issue of petty vindictiveness by corrupt officials who thought they were above the law whose only goal was to punish a political opponent.
But, it would be interesting to have all of the parties asked what they were trying to accomplish. Maybe they were trying to extort an endorsement and send a message.
JustAnotherGen
(31,849 posts)If you and the Rude Pundit are discussing this week - please dive into the NJ SCOTUS battles. I've been three places this morning in very Red and very much went for Christie/Romney Hunterdon County running errands. The talk about the towns out here is the Wallace issue. At this point the Mayoral thing is a smoke screen for placing judicial activists on the court who will do the far Right's bidding.
It's beginning to look like Christie went a different route than Walker - but the way of Koch brother's bidding indeed he tried to go.
starroute
(12,977 posts)The Chamber of Commerce has been active for a decade in pushing for pro-business judges in states where the top judges are elected.
Karl Rove was going in the same direction as early as the 1990s, when he discovered that "tort reform" was a good issue for convincing voters to vote for pro-business candidates. (And Rove was one of the people who encouraged Christie to run for governor back when he was still a US Attorney.)
Many of Bush's most noxious judicial nominations -- the ones that got the Democrats to filibuster and prompted the first talk of the nuclear option -- were explicitly pro-business and anti-worker. (And some of the more abhorrent recent decisions have come from those same Bush judges.)
New Jersey doesn't elect its judges but has this complex system of lifetime appointments following a seven-year probation period -- meaning that the only way to promote more conservative courts was for Christie to head off liberal justices at that crucial seven-year transition.
There's a very deep agenda here, and it has less to do with getting Christie elected (though that would be his motivation for playing along) than with the interests currently represented by the unholy alliance of the Chamber's and Rove's electoral fundraising juggernauts (an alliance that goes back to 2004-05 and the first attempt to privatize Social Security.)
JustAnotherGen
(31,849 posts)All of it actually - but those statements wrap it up nicely.
And let's be clear - Wallace had ZERO controversy serving his first seven years.
Christie was ordered to send a message - so he did.
And thank you for reiterating the unholy alliance between Rove and Christie. I wish more people were aware of it - you are helping the cause.
starroute
(12,977 posts)I didn't repeat it here because it seemed redundant -- but it seems to be called for.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/karl_rove_says_gop_candidate_c.html
August 12, 2009
Republican gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie has tried to escape the shadow of former President George W. Bush, whose support for Christie has become a major line of attack by Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine.
But in an interview Tuesday and in congressional testimony last month, longtime Bush advisor Karl Rove said he had conversations with Christie about a possible run for governor while Christie was serving in the non-political position of U.S. attorney. . . .
Christie's campaign downplayed the exchange Tuesday, calling it "not surprising" Rove had "inquired about Chris' future plans once his term as U.S. Attorney would come to an end."
"In this informal conversation, Chris discussed with Mr. Rove the fact he was being urged to run for elected office and Mr. Rove in turn offered to recommend people who could help Chris reach a decision if he eventually seriously considered running for office," Christie spokeswoman Maria Comella said in a statement.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Sorry!
rgbecker
(4,834 posts)Bridget was probably waiting for word from Christie.
Cirque du So-What
(25,962 posts)It was an open-ended act of political payback that borders upon the textbook definition of terrorism. The misery and frustration caused by creating traffic nightmares was its own 'reward' for Crusty and his hacks & flacks.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)http://www.northjersey.com/news/christie_kelly_bridge_lane_closures_emails.html?page=all
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/54031801/ns/msnbc-all_in_with_chris_hayes/
That's a about 3:50 into the first tape posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024303805
That was before he turned into Christie "the victim" of a lying staff. He wasn't pissed about the dangerous situation created by the closures, he was "sauced" that Fort Lee had "three lanes dedicated to it." (lie)
treestar
(82,383 posts)more occasion to use the bridge. Surely traffic studies determined the number of lanes dedicated to Fort Lee. What a blowhard Christie is. And a dumb one. Is he trying to get votes for his opponents?
JustAnotherGen
(31,849 posts)He knows as much about the daily commute over the GWB as I do about traffic on I-95. He is a Self Absorbed idiot who is intent on imploding.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)Sokolich were acting on behalf of Christie at least part o the end game was to have Sokolich blamed for the entire mess. One of the early emails said Sokolich, I think referred to in the emails as the Serbian, was going to have a hard time come November (election time). So we at least know that someone told the cops to tell the callers that the decision was made by Sokolich and very early on the Christie staffers were saying that the mayor would have a hard time during the election.
GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)for his subordinates to pull this shit without his knowledge.
ananda
(28,873 posts)They were probably trying to spank Rep. Weinberg, the Dem leader
of the NJ state senate, for going so hard on Christie's court
nominees and "forcing" him to withdraw his pet Hoens.
Iggo
(47,563 posts)"In your face, fuckers! I'm in charge!"
FatBuddy
(376 posts)not much else. you can't read much into what republicans do: it's just evil meanness pure and simple.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I don't think that was their goal and now they are up shit creek without a paddle for being exposed as petty and vindictive politicians. Murderers too.