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What should the penalty be for those who are deported and re-enter the US and other nations? (Original Post) Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 OP
What do YOU think? blm Mar 2012 #1
I suppose jail since deportation has proven ineffective. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #2
Yeah we should jail everyone who leaves a abelenkpe Mar 2012 #3
the fictional French Inspector Javert spent 20 years tracking down a man for stealing a loaf of brea LanternWaste Mar 2012 #4
What if the person trying for a better life has a previous criminal record? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #7
"There is a time to laugh and a time not to laugh, and this is not one of them...." LanternWaste Mar 2012 #9
Hilarious, but I see you avoided the question. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #11
What if the person trying for a better life has a previous criminal record? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #6
It depends on what they did and why. RC Mar 2012 #13
Would be a lot of delineations. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #16
Deported for what? Iggo Mar 2012 #5
Good question. Should that make a difference and where do we draw the line. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #8
Jail. emilyg Mar 2012 #10
If everyone caught trying to sneak in illegally is simply kicked out again with no extra penalty, Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #12
I say that we should punish undocumented immigrants the same way they were punished back in 1492. Zalatix Mar 2012 #14
In all countries or just the US? I've been trying to get into Japan for a while. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #15
Any country where the dominant racial group is calling for immigration restrictions Zalatix Mar 2012 #18
So basically everywhere. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #19
So, many of them should starve? SATIRical Mar 2012 #26
A sternly worded letter. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #17
They should be banned from viewing a map ever again gopiscrap Mar 2012 #20
Admit that they were right, and let them in. Unless you have some reason other than borders, saras Mar 2012 #21
So that would apply worldwide? I was just in Australia in December and a lot of the news was Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #22
Each country has it's own laws Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #23
But you would like to see it worldwide? When I was in Australia I was thinking Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #24
They should be allowed to stay...that'll teach 'em me b zola Mar 2012 #25
Our jails are overcrowded. I say, we eat them. EFerrari Mar 2012 #29
mmmmm...killer pie. chowder66 Mar 2012 #30
Or...all the wealthy people who use them for cheap labor me b zola Mar 2012 #34
"SOYLENT GREEN ES GENTE!!!!" nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #35
LOL EFerrari Mar 2012 #37
Why can't we just let people live where they want to? chowder66 Mar 2012 #27
Depends on the criminal history. Convicted child molester wants to move from Guatemala to Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #28
Agreed but I guess that is where the real complication lies. chowder66 Mar 2012 #31
More simple. If the Feds can prove, they have never done anything EFerrari Mar 2012 #32
That would be good news for the student at Rutgers. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #33
Did you have any particular student in mind? EFerrari Mar 2012 #36
The one in all the headlines? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #38
Is Ravi an immigrant or a foreign student? EFerrari Mar 2012 #39

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
3. Yeah we should jail everyone who leaves a
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:17 PM
Mar 2012

country where they have no opportunities to find a better life elsewhere. Their crime is ranks right up there with murderers, rapists, pedophiles and thieves.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. the fictional French Inspector Javert spent 20 years tracking down a man for stealing a loaf of brea
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:20 PM
Mar 2012

150 years ago, the fictional French Inspector Javert spent 20 years tracking down a man for stealing a loaf of bread... no reason we shouldn't further the same process by letting loose Inspector Clouseau on these infidels and reprobates...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. "There is a time to laugh and a time not to laugh, and this is not one of them...."
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:28 PM
Mar 2012

"There is a time to laugh and a time not to laugh, and this is not one of them...."
Insp. Clouseau

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
13. It depends on what they did and why.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:37 PM
Mar 2012

Spoke out against their own government? Or was a heavy in the drug trade? What? Circumstances, context, which country? They all matter.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
8. Good question. Should that make a difference and where do we draw the line.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:26 PM
Mar 2012

Murder, stealing, identify theft?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. If everyone caught trying to sneak in illegally is simply kicked out again with no extra penalty,
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:32 PM
Mar 2012

the border police would be overwhelmed, as people would keep trying to sneak in over and over again until they succeeded.

Send them back the first time, but warn them that if they try again they will go to jail.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
18. Any country where the dominant racial group is calling for immigration restrictions
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:56 PM
Mar 2012

but whose ancestors killed the inhabitants to take that land, should have open borders. After all, what's happening to them now is practically less than nothing compared to what their ancestors did.

gopiscrap

(23,762 posts)
20. They should be banned from viewing a map ever again
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 02:53 PM
Mar 2012
Seriously find out why, see if there is a reason for accomodation and if not, then deportation back to their native land. If they have assets with them or attatchable, then a reasonable portion should be confiscated for the costs of repatriation to their homeland.
 

saras

(6,670 posts)
21. Admit that they were right, and let them in. Unless you have some reason other than borders,
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 02:59 PM
Mar 2012

A loaded question calls for a balancing answer.

Crossing a border ought to be, of itself, a trivial civil offense - it's just a matter of paperwork.

That is, of course, separate from any illegal PURPOSES one crosses the border for. If you're a killer, you're a killer. If you're looking for a job, you're looking for a job.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
22. So that would apply worldwide? I was just in Australia in December and a lot of the news was
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:01 PM
Mar 2012

dominated by illegal immigration.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
24. But you would like to see it worldwide? When I was in Australia I was thinking
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:15 PM
Mar 2012

that they were about the size of the US with 1/10 the population and incredible natural resources. They could take in 100 million and not blink an eye.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
25. They should be allowed to stay...that'll teach 'em
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:19 PM
Mar 2012

Good to see that you keep your eye on the important issues

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
34. Or...all the wealthy people who use them for cheap labor
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 05:11 PM
Mar 2012

...can have control over their custody and keep them in a locked room when they are not raising their kids or srubbing their floors. When they are too old to work then we eat them.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
27. Why can't we just let people live where they want to?
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 04:47 PM
Mar 2012

If they have a criminal history outside of just living somewhere illegally then they should be punished using the laws of the country they have immigrated to.

OR the more likely option is to punish those that do not have a criminal history by making them either pay back taxes or a higher tax rate that matches the amount of time they were in a country illegally. Something to that effect. Then let them apply for citizenship.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
28. Depends on the criminal history. Convicted child molester wants to move from Guatemala to
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 04:55 PM
Mar 2012

Mexico they probably won't let him in.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
31. Agreed but I guess that is where the real complication lies.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 05:04 PM
Mar 2012

Was the convict given a fair trial? If so then each country should be responsible for it's serious offenders/criminals. I think there could be a system (or not) that could re-evaluate lesser criminals that do no real harm to give them a path to immigration. Then again maybe we should just stick with each country handling our own when it comes to crime. It's an interesting issue.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
32. More simple. If the Feds can prove, they have never done anything
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 05:06 PM
Mar 2012

to subvert democracy in the immigrant's country of origin, deport them and wish them well.

If the Feds can't do that, they get citizenship AND reparations.

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