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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThings are getting worse in Charleston, WV.
Just heard from a friend who has family there. Not only are they out of bottled water, they're out of hand sanitizer, baby wipes, food that can be microwaved, and lots of other stuff. No end in sight. Bottled water has been sent from my area in western Va to to affected areas in WV.
I'm guessing the poor are having a terrible time right now, as I seriously doubt they can afford to buy the things they'll need to survive. I asked her if the Red Cross, Fema, Salvation Army, or other groups are on the ground there, but haven't heard anything yet. What a mess!
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)I too would like to know where all the high-profile relief agencies are right now.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)This should be a new strategy for companies that pollute. Do it again, then you lose your company.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)This company will dissolve under a flood of lawsuits.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Coexist
(24,542 posts)in a year, claiming too many fraudulent claims.
on point
(2,506 posts)Including golden pensions, personal assets and anything else they have. Maybe then they will see that protecting the environment is not only right, but cheaper.
If the company can't operate with this overhead then it should be out of business. At least the true market costs would be priced into products
I hope the help comes together soon.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I think I know the answer, but the question still needs to be asked.
AAO
(3,300 posts)spooky3
(34,465 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)We appreciate your help.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)Infrastructure and funding should be readily available for this sort of thing. People should not have to depend on charity, but I will donate as soon as possible.
How I loathe capitalism.
bpositive
(423 posts)Is the amount of parents that used the water making baby formula before they knew the water was poisoned
librechik
(30,676 posts)I wish it weren't true....
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)Followed by some really great returns on carefully protected water rights and a lot of sick poor folks.
mountain grammy
(26,642 posts)The corporations hide behind beautiful commercials about jobs and money and making everyone's lives better and the voters, who are affected negatively more than they even realize, go on with their corporate lives and vote for corporate candidates.
There are simply no consequences for anything, except if your poor and/or African American. Then you pay for all the sins of the world for stealing a jacket or having a bag of pot.
Christians say Jesus suffered and died for all our sins but what I see are the poor suffering and dying for the sins of the rich.
Wasn't that really what happened 2000 years ago?
blue neen
(12,327 posts)mountain grammy
(26,642 posts)iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)down stream from it ?
it eventually goes into the Ohio River... and of course then the Mississippi...
wonder if itll have effects on them as well?
Delmette
(522 posts)I haven't seen or heard anything about testing their water supply's.
FatBuddy
(376 posts)i would buy gasoline (if they have it), put it in my car and drive outside of that zone, maybe an extra 100 or so miles.
now people will likely say, "what about people without cars? who cannot afford gas?"
that's a fucked up situation. it's really hard to live without water.
in fact, it's impossible. times like these are when good people should pull together for the common good.
plus a little help from FEMA, Red Cross, and the National Guard wouldn't hurt.
i wonder if the water table/well water/atmospheric water is affected?
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)"I was laying in bed this morning and I heard the rain and I thought, 'Thank God,' " said Debbie Stevens, 54.
The Charleston resident grabbed her shampoo and conditioner and went outside to stand in her pajamas under a leaky gutter that was pouring rainwater.
"I washed my hair and then I came in and used my wet pajamas take a horse bath," she said.
...
The spill has resulted in one amusing trend, said Haley. Many of her friends have college-age children at West Virginia University in Morgantown, north of the spill area.
"Usually college kids come home with their dirty clothes. But I've talked to three people now who've gone up to Morgantown to stay with their kids and do laundry."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/11/west-virginia-chemical-spill/4430247/
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)freeplessinseattle
(3,508 posts)Or if there was some censoring involved (intentional or not)
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Homer Wells
(1,576 posts)Living down here in deep southern West Virginia (thankfully about 20 miles west of the disaster) , the phrase is "whore's bath"
No horses involved.
Coexist
(24,542 posts)and used that to wash, flush the toilet etc.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I'm also sure the woman in the story did not call her ablution a "horse bath."
dgibby
(9,474 posts)Threw on my bathing suit, grabbed the shampoo and conditioner and stood under the broken gutter that was damaged when a tree fell on the house during the storm. Of course, it was still summertime in the Low Country and very hot. Debbie is more of a woman than I'll ever be! Weather in WV and here in Va has been very cold. I'm shivering just reading this!
Tanuki
(14,920 posts)I hope they get the help they need soon.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)There are "watering stations" set up and some water is being delivered to shut ins. The scope of this is mind boggling. Elective surgeries are on hold. My neighbor's BIL is supposed to have bypass surgery next week, but she isn't sure what's going to happen with him yet. Restaurants are closed, and I'm guessing schools will probably be closed, but haven't heard for sure.
I asked if there was anyplace we could could send donations, but haven't heard yet. Will post as soon as I do.
Glad to know the Red Cross is responding. They're going to need all the help they can get.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)I know Monongalia County has a supplies drop off site today.
This is a terrible tragedy.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)I was at a Philly protest at some US agency and some folks from Dimmock, PA were saying that they've witnessed POTABLE WATER trucks being used to carry off fracking waste water, which one of the drivers were protesting as it contaminates the tanks and they can't be cleaned.
Why would they do this?
Possibly so the fracking waste could be dumped in steams or waterways without raising suspicion.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)We've seen how the sailors on the USS Ronald Reagan didn't have their water tested.
Who knows what those tanks were used for before this emergency, and if they were cleaned?
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)It's purified by a process that would eliminate the radiation.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)behind bars facing terrorism charges.
The Supreme Court ruled corporations are people, so why hasn't the police locked up the CEO over this?
MrYikes
(720 posts)but let's not stop there. The stockholders own the company and force the ceo to do dastardly things. Let us hold the stockholders to account.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)responsible, every politician who enables these travesties is also culpable and until people start getting serious about defending themselves against these puppets for Corporations, there really is nothing that can be done. In the end it is up to the people.
I have seen very little about this on the 'news'. Same thing with the Texas explosion.
underpants
(182,861 posts)they have another water utility.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)But to answer your question, yes, we are getting aid from Red Cross and FEMA. red Criss disaster Relief has been going door to door with cases of water. And in or lil town of 1,000 I've seen two Semi's full of bottled water.
Most Restaurants are still closed, some have conditionally reopened.
In this state we have very few organized Fire Departments. Nearly all our little towns have Volunteer Fired Departments. Our county Fire Departments are funded through bonds to buy the equipment, but the labor is 100% volunteer. The men and women who do this type of stuff are Heroic. We've got dozens of volunteers going door to door, delivering water and food, checking on shut in folk, and keeping things moving as well as possible. I don't have much disposable income, but I always donate money to these people. They shine during these times, but they don't get enough credit for all the things they accomplish.
Without Restaurants, and not much potable water, cooking and eating can be a problem. Not to mention washing and bathing. Not being able to wash one's self, clothes, and dishes is a major pain.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)I was born, raised, and live in Alleghany Co, Va, which borders Greenbriar, Co, WV. We have a vol FD and Rescue Squad and lots of my friends and neighbors are members. We couldn't live here if not for them. Nearest large city is Roanoke, which is 40 miles away.
I went to nursing school (back in the '60's) with lots of girls from WV, and lots of people who live here are from WV. We're on the CSX line and there's a WestVaCo paper mill just up the road, so lots of folks came here for the jobs and stayed. Needless to say, we're very concerned about all of you who are affected.
I was in the Navy and stationed in Charleston, SC, when Hurricane Hugo hit. We were without power and water for days. Working in the hospital without power and water was a nightmare that I never want to repeat. The back up generators didn't work properly, the heat was oppressive, no running water, couldn't flush the toilets (which overflowed and ran out into the main passageways, creating a hazmat situation), elderly patients died from heat stress. That lasted for days. As the old saying goes, you don't know what you have until you lose it.
The big problem is going to be in the less populated/rural areas. Relief efforts are usually concentrated in the more heavily populated areas and get the bulk of the aid first. Everyone else is pretty much left to their own devices, or at least that was my experence with Hugo. Folks in the outlying areas were in terrible straights for many days. They were the last to get roads cleared, last to get emergency supplies, and the last to get elect. and water restored.
Please keep us posted, Saboburns, and let us know if and/or how we can help.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)written by someone in the affected area.
http://news.yahoo.com/water-west-virginia-charleston-chemical-spill-213120682.html
dgibby
(9,474 posts)is recommending donating to the ARC if you want to help. She also said a class action suit is in the works.
Blue Owl
(50,478 posts)No. More. Pollution.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)In addition, thinking of all the animals that will be affected is heartbreaking. They can't heed warnings. Maybe it's so vile they won't drink it.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)THIS is the definition of evil.