with which I concur in the entirety.

Why doctors aren't up in arms about having religulously insane shoeless goobers in state legislatures telling them how to practice medicine I cannot imagine.

People who are against abortion are anti-choice, as in a woman's right to choose.

Don't let the nuts frame the discussion as being pro-life v pro-choice when it's pro-choice v anti-choice.

the only label that truly fits is misogynist. These people hate women, period.

supernovae

This shit just makes me seethe!

by the year 2050. A day will come when things get so bad that measures will be taken to correct the problem.

I won't be alive, but the people who are will face some very tough issues.

In my opinion, this will bring about the end of religion. This pro-life and population increase will meet one day and the people will turn from religion. That is how it has to be.

in the long run. A closed system can only support a given number of inhabitants.

everything ! the resources are finite, the upper crust sees it that way.

But yes, scarce resources exist today. For people to even suggest that everyone should be having children because religion requires it....well that is insane.

When I see humans doing good work it inspires me...gives me hope. But when I see humans disregarding the fundamental requirements for this planet and it's life forms, well I see the end for the humans.

I have this feeling in my gut that there will be a lot of suffering in the future. Hope i'm wrong.

For a man to see what I do when he was living in the 1700's just makes me smile.

I really wish I could have done an essay on him when I was in college.

If I was 20 yers old today, this would be the biggest topic imaginable.

Physics can wait a couple hundred years.

...used his ideas to justify not giving assistance to the poor because it would just cause them to have more babies. This is typical upper class rhetoric found throughout history, BS about the poor being "useless eaters" and "animals that can't control their breeding".

This notion was parodied by Dickens, who put it in Ebeneezer Scrooge's mouth.

And in countries less fortunate than ours, they are suffering.

If you want to start solving the problem by eating the rich, i'm on board!

people in destitute conditions try to use their children to get out of them, such as in subsistence farming, more farmhands, or selling kids labor, etc. Hence why birthrates are so damned high, not to mention, due to lack of access to modern medicine, so many of those children die before they are 5. Poverty and lack of stability are the biggest reasons for a growing population. We should concentrate our resources in helping people economically, empowering women politically, and improving the health of the population, and we will see population growth stagger and hopefully either stabilize and/or fall in a few generations.

the corporations probably already have plans on how to "manage" overpopulation and feeding the masses.

First thing in order is to own the water. Then, you need to get a good grip on the food supply.

Meanwhile, people are starving and getting sick. They start to discuss what they can do and realize that they have no voice.

Now the time has come for people to band together or fall apart. We are seeing the beginning of this. This is what OWS was meant for. Drag the truth into the streets for all to see.

In the end, the 1% will disolve to 0% or fall. But they will try with some compassion cry and a false white flag!

and hopefully such difficult choices will not be necessary. In countries where women have all this, birth rates fall. This needs to be worldwide to be truly effective though.

The US never seems to realize that other nations are already in this quagmire.

China, Japan, India, and others know what it means to have overwhelming people and negative resources.

One thing is certain...when these countries abuse these people as slave labor, they are just waiting for an uprising that could put the 24 hr. news on RED ALERT!

You can just see it as a purely secular issue; a symptom of a society that is not functioning properly.

access to abortion services. It is purely a medical issue, not an issue for society to decide upon. At most, medical ethics boards and reviews should deal with it, just like they do every other medical issue. I see the patients being able to have access to abortion(or any other medical service), as being necessary for a properly functioning society.

Probably on the meaning of "rational" as well.

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Good luck on that one.

I know a lot of people who are anti-choice. I don't know any that aren't evangelical christers. In other words they are people who want to impose their religious views on others. That is their motivation.

stopping me from choking the living shit out of those people!!!

It really pisses me off that they are doing these things in order to control others
and stop people from living according to their own beliefs.

I guess that after the 2012 elections there are going to be a lot of
pissed off right-wingers who will be pissed because others are living
happy, fullfilling lives and they are stuck in their own hell-on-earth.

Then we'll have to think of a bumper sticker to remind them.

Happy, happy, joy, joy!

I totally agree.

Where is the ACLU in all of this? Are they going to challenge these discriminatory laws?

Oh, excuse me. The ERA didn't pass. That's why.

anomalies if he thought the woman might have a termination to prevent the baby's suffering.

They won't be happy until some are dead and bleeding from their wombs.

all sorts of horrendous methods and drugs were invented to terminate pregnancy. Now, we finally have reliable methods to safely perform these procedures and people want to outlaw access to them. These anti-choicers are anti-woman and anti-life.

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So, are we there yet?

I'm sorry about going there, but at this point I'm having doubts about who really won WW2.

Thanks to Prescott Bush and his offspring.

I just had to add another "fuck." :&gt ))

Their insanity is way good for the Dems.

The aim is to humiliate the woman. Allegedly to make her feel guilty, and cause her to repent.

But of course? What right does any church have to using publicly-funded medical facilities, to enact a religious shaming ritual?

As time fades and suffering grows, there will be enlightenment. Religion and logic will have it out and religion will lose. Reality will be too hard to suppress. The believers will be set aside and they will finally see the true nature of things, or perish.

Then people will start writing new bibles that morph into what they need to control something.

This article just made me so sad for her and so incredibly angry at these laws. It took the head shaking humor I had experienced to dull the underlying anger right off the table. Thanks for your rant - it doesn't even go far enough!

Reading that made me so sad for this couple and angry that they had to be tortured like this because these lawmakers make such a law. The requirement that the Dr had to point out the "healthy parts"...as opposed to the medical fact of what was wrong....The quote that really got me too was when the Doctor said to them that when they came back the next day that he then would give them what they needed in terms of consult and care.

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All I can do is donate to planned parenthood, emilys list etc and speak out....and oh yes, get as many women voters (and the men who love and respect women truly) to vote this November and get these Vile GOP scum out of office and voting in more Women, Progressives and President Obama.

That law...how horrible it must be for the Mother and Father to have to be tortured for 24 hrs before the procedure is performed. I would say that PTSD would be next. They should sue the state for torture, pain and suffering and humiliation in the loss of their child.

Do take some time to read the comments. One guy piped in and said his cows get better treatment when their pregnancies go bad. Just more humane for the cows than the women in the state of Texas. sickening.

the Church can fuck itself with a rusty railroad spike.

In the Texas law, women seeking an abortion in the first two months, have to submit to a trans-vaginal sonogram wand, in order to view the embryo in ultrasound.

This requirement seems to fit the federal definition of "rape," as a kind of "legally"-coerced sexual penetration, of a person not suspected of any crime.

Call it "Republican Rape." And? Take 'em to COURT. Be sure to call the newspapers, and let them know what you are doing.

Ideally, lawsuits and court challenges would begin to surface about three months before the November general election; beginning say, August/September 2012.

Just in case you're considering something like this.

Don't just get mad; take 'em to court.

Not bothering to read this...get with some civility in your language if you wish to impose on us.

Yes, great rant. You expressed how I feel and how strongly I feel it. Every woman I know feels we've gone Back to the Fifties AND we will never, ever vote for any of these theocratic fuckwits.

These laws make me feel hated because I am a woman. Yes, I feel hatred aimed right at me. How dare these laws be made and enforced! I won't stand for it and I won't want to play nice anymore.

I could wipe my ass with those effing hypocrites! And that's the first time I ever said that in my life! They'd rather see young girls and women get coat-hanger abortions or commit suicide because these holier-than-thou porno lovers will judge them harshly or ostracize them for being pregnant, whether raped by a stranger or sick family member or will die if they carry full term. It's all about power and money for these assholes. Get these poor excuses for human beings out of office NOW. Recall if necessary. Who the hell do they think they are? The Catholic church covers up all kinds of child molestations by clergy. How they have the balls to open their mouths about this subject at all is beyond me. Their followers are so brainwashed it befuddles the mind.

There has been a lot of discussion lately about right wing hate speech, and justifiably so. Right wing talk radio is a cesspool of hate.

But when people on our side say that we hate too then we are playing right into their hands. The right wing is the side that hates. We progressives are not hatemongers. When discussing topics like this I leave the "H" word behind. There are plenty of other ways for us to express our feelings on issues like this which avoid our getting down into the gutter with the right wing.