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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Nye Science Guy eats Climate Change denier for lunch (video)
http://americablog.com/2014/01/bill-nye-science-guy-eats-climate-change-denier-lunch-video.htmlNye is his usual peaceful self. The conservative guy is kind of a loudmouth bully right out of the gate. I suspect its something in the food.
As Nye notes, Moranos facts are from another planet. He argues a lot like a religious right nut, in fact. Talking very fast and making sure he quotes a lot of facts from a lot of seemingly prestigious institutions. The problem, as Nye points out, is that the guys facts simply arent true. But, like the religious right, he manages (hopes to, at least) confuse less-informed viewers into thinking maybe hes right, since he has some many quotable facts.
ananda
(28,876 posts)Stay calm, focus on facts, and let the other guy
look as crazy as he is.
Triana
(22,666 posts)to spout his pro-pollution propaganda?
Just asking.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)We're being useful idiots for the green energy lobby. They made it all up so they can get their grubby little hands on some of the poor exploited oil company's money.
Archae
(46,345 posts)Bill Nye is a scientist. (Damn good one too!)
Morano is a whore, bought and paid for by polluters.
Climate Denial Playbook: Marc Morano's History of Bullying Scientists
If you've even heard of Marc Morano, you probably watched him angrily attacking a climate scientist, journalist or Al Gore on Fox News or on his blog Climate Depot, a project of the Donors Trust and oil industry-funded CFACT. Morano is so agitated in his climate denial that he once advocated that climate scientists be "publicly flogged."
Originally a producer for the Rush Limbaugh Show, Morano ascended (descended?) to the position of Communications Director for Sen. James Inhofe (R-Denial), where he helped his boss to abuse the power of the Senate hearings process to attack climate science and promote conspiracy theories. Inhofe and Morano were corrected and debunked endlessly, but facts have proven no obstacle to Morano's crusade against science confirming the role of fossil fuel pollution in driving global warming.
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Morano's current organization, the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT), has received over $4.1 million in funds from the shadowy Donors Trust and Donors Capital Fund between 2002-2011, plus an additional $582,000 from ExxonMobil between 1998-2012, according to Greenpeace's updated report, Dealing In Doubt.
http://crooksandliars.com/desmogblog/climate-denial-playbook-marc-moranos-hi
Triana
(22,666 posts)...he's an oil whore.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)he's probably the best science educator of our time.
He's an engineer by trade, never sought an advanced degree, and claims no original research on his CV.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)views come from. Typical of their side is to try to prevent our side from being able to make an uninterrupted argument. That's one way to tell that they know they are wrong! For once I would love it if the Progressive would make that point, "Are you talking over me so I will not be able to show everyone that your position on this issue is full of shite"!
Archae
(46,345 posts)It speaks volumes.
Auggie
(31,186 posts)We're way past the "debate" on change. Discussion needs to be on reducing carbon and long-term steps for species survival.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)...should be allowed to be hoisted on that petard.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Shoulders of Giants
(370 posts)I also counted at least 4 different times he cut Bill Nye off.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)He did a great job
heaven05
(18,124 posts)is he from New Jersey? What a joke.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)I assume your question was a joke, though I find the thought of Morano being qualified to discuss the topic to be much funnier
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Orrex
(63,224 posts)What the hell does he know?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That's going to be epic.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I mean, really? He doesn't ACTUALLY have moran in his name?
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)mehrrh
(233 posts)The website Climate Depot run by Morano is funded by right-wing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, known for his financial support of conservative public policy organizations. Morano was a political aide for Sen. Inhofe, who also worked for Rush Limbaugh. He has mastered the Republican tactic of talking louder, faster and interrupting others - but aside from that dubious skill, his credentials are questionable.
Nye is a former mechanical engineer, who studied under Cal Sagan; he is a science educator and lecturer, who belongs to The Committee for Skeptical Inquiry whose aim is to promote scientific inquiry, critical investigation, and the use of reason in examining controversial and extraordinary claims.
So who do you think has more credibility?
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)would anyone give credence of a Bachelor Degreed (in Political Science) guy with little, if any, background in Science; but has only worked as a political operative, on any topic except, maybe, on "how to make a political argument"?
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)The host made a very respectable effort to narrow the discussion down to facts, but when you are allowed to do the Gish Gallop, this always prevails.
Any climate change denier listening to that segment would be emboldened.
And Nye's upcoming "debate" with the evolution denier will go exactly the same way.
flying rabbit
(4,639 posts)Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)we know so much about global climate change is a result of the oil companies discovering a series of sea level rises and falls in the geological stratigraphic record.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)that Morano is, none of the three actually discuss human behavior as a(the) cause of global warming. As smart as Nye is, Morano is such a loud mouth and the host - is that that Piers guy? - is so stupid that they are discussing--nothing.
Nye doesn't 'eat' anybody - not his fault, of course.
lofty1
(62 posts)Morano wasn't there to debate Bill Nye on any facts. Does the climate denier side even have any legitimate scientists? If they do, I doubt Piers would have had them on. Where's the infotainment value in an intelligent discussion? Kudos to Bill Nye for at least trying to get his message across on this clown show.
lame54
(35,321 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Brother talking points. Smothered and covered is our future as long as ham hand simple minded fools like this have any power.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I've been kicked off that website THREE times, and it's the biggest joke of a site for the right wing trolls to migrate. Disagree with anyone, and you get attacked like a rabid dog going after a three legged rabbit. Egads!
This is what the reich wingers are great at...shouting, fillebustering, pulling facts out of their ass that have NO merit whatsoever, and that's "their game".
Good for Nye for taking it with courtesy and patience, but I really feel the scientific arena gets marginalized from these hacks, because the simple-minded viewer, eg newsbuster clan, lap up the arguments as if there is really "a fair and balanced presentation of evidence". Absolute BULL SHIT. It's like watching the Sunday talking heads giving "equal time" to fact and lies; then you decide. What the fook is that?
neverforget
(9,436 posts)that is all.