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JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:12 PM Mar 2012

If Republicans are telling women they "can close their eyes"....

..when presented with an ultrasound image, how about saving taxpayer money by letting the woman sign an affidavit promising she is indeed going to close her eyes?

If she vows she's going to close her eyes, there's absolutely no reason to spend the money on an unnecessary medical procedure that no one will see.

Fiscal conservatives my ass, I thought their states were too broke to pay snow plow drivers.

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malaise

(269,003 posts)
1. But but but
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:15 PM
Mar 2012

their law says that the woman who doesn't want the probe will be forced to pay.

can you believe these fucking lunatics?

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
2. What taxpayer money? It is the WOMEN that are going to have to pay for it ...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:19 PM
Mar 2012

because you know that insurance companies are not going to pay for an unnecessary procedure.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
9. I was unaware the client would have to pay.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:35 PM
Mar 2012

That seems so absurd that it didn't even occur to me a person would have to pay for a government ordered procedure unless they're convicted of a crime, as in house arrest ankle bracelets.

Come to think of it, I imagine that's exactly how they feel about it.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
3. How much will it cost women who don't have health insurance
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:21 PM
Mar 2012

to pay for an ultrasound and a vaginal ultrasound? Most women get abortions because they can't afford a baby and find it difficult to pay for an abortion in the first place...so how are they suppose to pay for these extra procedures? Why haven't I heard more people complaining about the cost?

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
6. Well that's one way to stop abortions without overturning Roe v Wade.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:28 PM
Mar 2012

repugs are slimy little rat bastids.

ladywnch

(2,672 posts)
4. to my knowlegde ALL of these laws REQUIRE the woman to pay for the proceedure she
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:22 PM
Mar 2012

doens't want or need. That's the additional "fuck you, women" in all this shit!!!

Hell, they've made women pay for their rape kits why wouldn't they make them pay for something as blessed and joyful as this!!!

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
7. I didn't know that.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:31 PM
Mar 2012

It's incredible that they're basically applying an abortion tax to increase unwanted pregnancies.

ladywnch

(2,672 posts)
14. yes, it's the same 'logic' they've applied to drug testing welfare reciepients
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 12:04 PM
Mar 2012

before they're allowed to recieve benefits.......they have to PAY OUT OF POCKET BEFORE they get benefits. Now, to be fair, they do get reimbursed when they pass.

FYI: since FL has instituted their policy it has 'saved' them a whopping <-$250,000>.........well worth every penny!.....And what's even better is other states are followint suit so they too can all waste more state resources that they don't have.


GOP! GOP! GOP!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
5. This proves that the whole point of requiring an ultrasound
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:23 PM
Mar 2012

is not to "inform" women but to harass them. Women who want (need) to terminate a pregnancy - a legal medical procedure - will be required to undergo an unnecessary and intrusive experience at her expense. And the reason for the requirement is to make it as difficult as possible for her to exercise her constitutionally protected right to control her reproductive processes. If they say it's OK for her to refuse to look at the image while she is undergoing the ultrasound, it's obvious that the ostensible purpose of providing information is pure bullshit - because she has the option of rejecting the "information."

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
13. It shouldn't need proving to anyone north of a room temperature IQ
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 04:11 AM
Mar 2012

The Texas GOP says the law was intended to increase the "standard of care" for women. If the Republicans were really so concerned about the "standard of care" why is the state dead ass last in health insurance coverage? And why did Gov Goodhair allow millions in federal medicaid funds go away just so he could defund Planned Parenthood which provides health care services to poor women?

The GOP simply wants to pander to the women hating flat earth crowd.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. Me too -- I think this is what you're remembering
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 02:25 AM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sat Mar 17, 2012, 08:07 AM - Edit history (1)

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/close-your-eyes-and-think-of-england.html

This is recorded in the 1912 journal of Lady Hillingdon: "When I hear his steps outside my door I lie down on my bed, open my legs and think of England."

That is widely repeated in various reference texts, but without access to the source document it has to be counted as speculative. . . .

'Lie back and think of England', or as it is more often expressed these days 'close your eyes and think of England', was used in two contexts. Firstly, it was, or later dramas have portrayed that it was, advice given by a mother to her daughter on her wedding night. Sex education wasn't all that it might have been in the early 20th century. The other context is of advice given by a woman friend to a loveless wife. Marriage was a route to economic security for women in Edwardian England and many must have seen the granting of sexual favours as an unwelcome price to pay for it.

The expression is sometimes attributed to Queen Victoria. The phrase certainly has the moral tone of many Victorian maxims that emphasised effort and forbearance, for example, 'Play up, play-up and play the game', 'If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run... you'll be a man, my son', etc. There's no evidence that Queen Victoria ever uttered the phrase and circumstantial evidence points entirely the other way as she loved her husband deeply, was an enthusiastic sexual partner and the couple had nine children.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
10. They expect the women to pay for their mandates themselves. They are passing laws that the women
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 10:25 PM
Mar 2012

have to have them but they are also passing laws that the women are responsible for the cost.

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