Screaming for his life.

& for taking the security of the neighborhood too seriously. She said she came forward when she learned that Zimmerman was set free & because she wants to get the truth out:



Edited to add corrected link: http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/interview-with-witness-of-sanford-teen-shooting/vGYPW/

It's worth the watch. She'll make an excellent witness for Trayvon's family.

Wonderful woman.

We just need a few thousand more signatures to put this piece of shit away.
http://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-killer-of-our-son-17-year-old-trayvon-martin?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petit

How does the confrontation start up?

She hears Trayvon Martin screaming for help and she tells the 911 operator that she heard a gun shot.

If he was screaming for help before being shot it's open and shut murder.

from the tape.

. . . at which point the screaming stopped.

The pop sound certainly is not as loud as the first at 00:41.

She's talking only about "someone screaming Help". When asked if it's a male or female, she said she thought male... then... "OMG I heard a gunshot". It appears that she then describes the gunshot (as single shot) and then she then goes upstairs to hide.

he gunshot from the background noise and the phone speak

it's a terrible tragedy and possibly a murder but this tape does nothing to clarify the situation

Unarmed boy walking home with skittles and is confronted by nut who kills him. It's murder.

lost a few teeth and not a life

I say "possibly murder" because I do not know all the facts

in any event it's still a terrible tragedy

but the most damning thing is zimmermans quote

"he looks like he's on drugs or something" and "these assholes always get away"

that guy was looking for trouble and he ended up creating it

WHAT the FUCKING FUCK??!

"But police on Friday told the Orlando Sentinel that they believe it was Zimmerman's screams for help that could be heard on the recording.

What the hell is WRONG with these damn people??! Why would THE MAN WITH THE GUN be the one screaming for help??! This is UNREAL!!!

The Sanford police department is attempting to cover up a cold-blooded murder. I'm going to be one more person making sure that they don't get away with it.

Tell me what you are going to do. I'll do the same.

This story has actually kept me awake more than one night this week. I'm so goddamned sick of this happening to black children I don't know what to do with myself. So fucking SICK of this!!!!

So far my efforts are pretty lame. They include signing the moveon.org petition and linking articles here that present facts.

Now that the tapes have been released the case is getting renewed national attention. I expect that national pressure will begin to be felt by the Sanford police department. The mayor is feeling the heat. However, I fear that the local police force will continue to do the wrong thing.

We need to fight on the state and national level against laws like Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law that allow people to shoot anybody they feel like shooting, anywhere they feel like shooting them.

We need to fight against the national culture that encourages the police to dress and act like military special forces - without the training or discipline - and abuse citizens. We need to fight against the militarization of the U.S. That happens at the ballot box. It happens in day-to-day conversations with people in which we have the courage to say, "I don't agree with what the police did there." I don't agree with SWAT teams shooting OWS protesters. I don't agree with police officers tasing people.

We have to turn this country around.

I'm seeing some stuff that the NAACP and other civil rights web sites are doing. Hopefully people will donate, march, do whatever to see that this psychopath ends up behind bars where he belongs.

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/3/15/civil_rights_activis

http://politic365.com/2012/03/13/what-trayvon-martin-says-about-our-politics/

I agree with you that we all need to push for justice in this case. Apparently there have been problems in the Sanford police force for some time. I hope that things will improve there as well, and across the state of Florida, and in the U.S.

This happened because of a bunch of problems that are national in scope. Racism, racial profiling, fear of "crime" encouraging people to murder and encouraging other people to enable murderers, willingness of too many people to let the police do whatever they think best.

Zimmerman's voice, or the victim?

Especially if there existed any voice recordings of the victim.

I still believe in due process. Don't you?

And the yelling is VERY discernible in the tape as is the gunshot. The gunshot is crystal clear at the 41 second mark.

Crystal clear.

You're more familiar with 911 tapes. Does the voice on the call from Zimmerman sound as though it could be the same person yelling for help on the 911 call in the OP link?

I don't think they are the same but it's really hard to tell.

and the 9.11 dispatcher better be typing at the same time and dispatching both EMS and Cops.

That the voice screaming for help sounded much younger than Zimmerman.

That's what I hear too.

stop right away. It definitely sounded like the person screaming was silenced by the gunshot. I can't see how the cops can say that was Zimmerman screaming. Why would the guy with the gun be screaming and why did the screaming stop once the shot was fired? I bet he was waving that gun around and that is why the teenager was scared and yelling for help.

I do not know why this guy Zimmerman has not been arrested.

And this is not the Zimmerman tape, it is an eye-witness tape.

Obviously, Zimmerman did not do what he was told to do. Seems like he wanted an excuse to use that gun.

How an unarmed teenager who did not have a car, could be any kind of threat to this coward who was armed and in a car which, even if there was a threat of any kind, he could have driven away in until the police got there.

This stinks and it also sounds like the cops trying to cover for this guy.

I wonder who he knows?

I know, water is wet... and it falls from the sky, but...

stating that his son is from a racially mixed family and that the charges of racism against him are false.

Except that the man killed an unarmed teen-ager who had every bit as much right to be on the sidewalk there as he did, and killed him in a confrontation he initiated, that he had not a shadow of legal authority or right to have initiated.

In short, the vicious fellow's father is a blind fool at best.

More news that was reported today came from three witnesses who all say they heard the teenager crying for help, then they heard a shot, then silence. All say they believe the cries for help came from the teenager. That is exactly how it sounds on the tape.

One of the witnesses was a 13 year old boy. He, according to his mother, has been deeply depressed since that night. And he believes it was racism, that the teenager was targeted because, he said, 'people stereotype and this could happen to me'.

This is video of the 13 year-old speaking about what he saw:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/68844192/News/Video-Teen-witnessed-part-of-Trayvon-Zimmerman-confrontation

I tried to load a 16 minute video link up thread and it would load the page, I could see the picture of a blond woman, but it wouldn't play for me. Makes me wonder if someone is trying to block information about the case getting out.

THE VIDEO YOU ARE TRYING TO WATCH
IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE. PLEASE
CHECK BACK SOON.

Wonder why? Thanks for trying to help.

There are five clips available just under that, and several more down page. they show as small windows.

I can still see it. Sorry it's not working for you

He didn't see the shooting, because his dog got off leash, but saw someone on the ground and someone standing, heard the pleading and when he got hold of his dog he heard the shot.

running on segregation .

have turned out to be Gay themselves.

However, from the news reports I, speaking for myself, understood that Zimmerman was white. The fact that he is not, does not change the facts of the case. He killed an innocent teenager and from all the evidence so far, it looks like it was murder.

thinking that only white people have the capacity be racist is patently false.

Speaking spanish and having a hispanic mother does not disqualify someone from racism. I think that's a pathetically weak defense.

Almost all of us make assumptions about people whom we don't know, based on their appearance. I suppose only legally blind people are exempt from that one.

be a racist. Which is also not true. Lots of assumptions are made. In this case at least one of them was apparently wrong which doesn't mean he was not a racist.

Strange, I posted a news item and the reactions are almost as if it is my fault that at least one of facts are not what they were assumed to be. And as if I am in some way defending Zimmerman. Which could not be further from the truth.

His father claims he is not a racist and I have no knowledge of him at all so I cannot say if he is or not. What I do know is he killed a teenager and apparently for no reason and he has not yet been arrested. Hopefully he will be. There are far too many wrongful killings in this country, by cops and by people like this and often with no consequences for the killers. I for one am sick of the violence.

Is there a reason why we should suppress news or am I reading the responses incorrectly?

Thanks for posting it.

Even one that knows alot of Black people. In my experience, Hispanics are just as racist as Whites against Blacks.

It all sucks, and Zimmerman should have been arrested.

I'd say it's a very safe bet the killing was racially motivated.

It is very clear to me what is happening. Somebody is screaming in terror, begging for their life, and then they go silent. As the mother of two teenage sons I know what it sounds like when a teenage boy screams. That's what we're hearing.

MURDER.

Also, Zimmerman followed Treyvon around while he was in his car. 911 told him to stay put, but he ignored.

Arrest this fucker NOW!

The first noise that the woman does not react to I don't think is a gunshot. The shot at 0:41 she clearly reacts to and identifies as a gunshot, even though she said "shots". When the operator asks her how many the woman said "One."

It's also in the article you posted below:

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/sanford-911-calls-released-teens-shooting-death/nLWWS/

Many of the people said they heard "gunshots" but when by asked the 911 operator how many they heard, they all said "One".

I think it is just a general imprecision of speech.

Regardless of what the article claims.

immediately after the shot is heard.

But I agree, he needs to be arrested and should have been right away.

After that second shot is fired. It actually made me cry after hearing it and knowing that a 17 year old child was losing his life at that instant. So terribly tragic and unnecessary. That man should have stayed in his car like he was instructed and that fact alone should cause him to be in jail for murder!

It would be just like watching a documentary about airliner crashes.

When they play back the black box recordings in which the pilots already know they're fucked, it's just too much for me not to cry.

I have a feeling he became scared about what would happen to him having shot the boy and having to listen to his horrible screams awaking the neighborhood. Not at all like he imagined it would be from watching his favorite TV shows. Maybe he decided the best route was to silence his critic before he could give a review. How anyone could further harm someone so obviously scared out of their mind & in pain is beyond me.

she is telling that other person to get away and how she went upstairs to her room because she is scared.

if you are really scared would you go out and confront the person you find to be suspicious ?

fuck the cops, the killer, and the shitty ass florida law.

from this it seems like i can just go to florida shoot someone and then claim i felt scared.

how fucked up is this?

at some point wouldn't HE be considered the aggressor? If anyone should have been in fear for their life, I would think it would be the unarmed kid who was being pursued.

Being a "Neighborhood Watch" person isn't a government or state position - it's just someone who calls police and lets them deal with it.

It does not allow someone to:

A - Follow someone around

B - Chase them

Even if the shooter was attacked, the attack was justified. Martin was being followed by an older guy who just got out of his car and started walking towards him.

In conclusion - another a-hole who was looking to pull their gun out.

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Following a person, while armed and then getting out of ones car and acting in a confrontational manner, also while armed, is the act of aggression. The boy would have been the one acting in self defense.

This story just makes me heartsick. I couldn't listen to the recording.

Edited to add this link...http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/15/3494117/witnesses-in-florida-teens-death.html

"A neighborhood eighth-grader out walking his dog said his family also called 911.

"I saw someone lying on the ground, and I heard screaming," said Austin, 13, whose mother asked that his last name not be published. "I don't know that it was the person on the (ground) who was screaming, but to me it sounded like a kid who was crying. It was a yell for help, and I think it was Trayvon."

Austin wasn't sure if the person was in a fight or had slipped and gotten hurt. Austin's Boxer puppy got off the leash so the boy went chasing after the dog and lost sight of the scene for a moment. Then, he heard a gun go off.

He ran home and told his sister to call the police.

The boy, who is black, has been rattled ever since. He feels angry and disconcerted, and wonders whether he's at risk too.

"That people can stereotype like that makes you scared," he said.

Austin's mom said he's been acting out in school and seems mad all the time.

"My son has a terrible feeling of guilt, because he did not do anything to help. He's angry," said Austin's mother, Cheryl Brown. "They are saying that Trayvon looked suspicious, because he was walking slow. So I guess I have to tell my son: make sure you always run fast."

and he looks traumatized and it is clear he is suffering because he was unable to help, rather like a survivors guilt. I also hope someone gets him help and helps him process it all and understand that he isn't at all to blame.

Really sad.

Zimmerman said he tailed Trayvon in a mission to find out if the teen was up to no good. Zimmerman was out to put a stop to recent burglaries. He dialed police - his 46th call in the past 14 months to report shady people, reckless drivers and other disturbances around his neighborhood.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/15/3494117/witnesses-in-florida-teens-death.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

Unstable people like that should NOT be allowed to carry guns PERIOD!

OMG.

Third 911 tape at the link. I could not listen to anymore of the tapes:

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html

The racist murderer has a police record for resisting arrest. The racist cops didn't bother to check it and insisted that the racist murderer was "squeaky clean."

In police parlance, "squeaky clean" means "white and male."

Zimmerman said he tailed Trayvon in a mission to find out if the teen was up to no good. Zimmerman was out to put a stop to recent burglaries. He dialed police - his 46th call in the past 14 months to report shady people, reckless drivers and other disturbances around his neighborhood.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/15/3494117/witnesses-in-florida-teens-death.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

Trying to tell me that the police didn't know that Zimmerman was a problem.

If a racist white man kills a defenseless minority child in cold blood who is 100 pounds lighter than he and ten years his junior, that man will be exonerated on the scene by racist cops who will not check his record but insist he's innocent anyway.

Racist white cops protecting a racist white murderer. America, 2012.

in a desperate effort to blame the victim and deflect guilt from their buddy. (The tests were negative. The child was armed with a cup of iced tea and a bag of candy.)

And the racist white cops will suppress the eight calls to 911 from horrified witnesses that document the screams of terror coming from a child gunned down in cold blood.

And, finally, the racist white cops will whine they are being oppressed because people are calling them racists.

I hope they all go to jail. I have never felt more like participating in vigilante justice in my life.

If you're a minority and you live in this town, be aware: the police force is utterly full of white racists and they won't even arrest a white man when he kills a child in cold blood for fun.

The police officer who responded to the 911 calls has been in trouble before. I'm somewhat surprised that he didn't plant the shooter's gun on the dead child. Probably didn't think of it in time.

Or maybe ran out of time.

Even with at least eight witnesses the Sanford police department has managed to avoid arresting the shooter so far. Imagine if this had happened in a different neighborhood.

the result would be different? I'm sure the cops would have given the black teen the benefit of the doubt and assumed he was "squeaky clean."

There would be weeks of headline stories about the white teen's life, his excellent grades, his leadership qualities, how many people loved him and looked up to him.

The black man would be in jail.

This incident is not all about race. It also involves the growing tolerance in the U.S. for violent vigilante behavior against perceived "terrorism." We've all watched the police forces around the nation become armed with military gear. There is a culture in the U.S. now that praises vigilante idiots like this Zimmerman and excuses their behavior. There are numerous examples every week around the nation of police invading the wrong houses, shooting innocent people mistakenly suspected of some vague crime, tazing young children until they die, etc. It's not all about race but race plays a key role - most of the victims are not white.

And refuse to listen to them and take their entire statements. Or even properly question the shooter.

who will in turn offer their racist members "legal defense".

She just played the tape.
on MSNBC

I can't bear to listen to it but I can read it.

He worked as a "compliance officer" (basically a cop without training), so every time he'd skulk around some woman's house, the police blew it off . . .

And when that woman ended up horribly dead, he was never a suspect.

This George Zimmerman was already arrested before, in 2005, for resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer. He has a violent past. He calls 911 all the time. The local police department in Sanford seems to be treating him like a little brother or something. Makes me wonder what else he's done lately, in addition to stalking and murdering an unarmed 17 year old.