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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 05:34 PM Mar 2012

Missouri caucuses marked by contention, with no clear victor yet

LIBERTY, MO.: -- Missouri Republicans met in more than 100 counties Saturday to begin picking their presidential nominee at party caucuses marked in some places by crowded rooms, loud disagreements — and no clear victor.

Organizers shut down one of the largest GOP caucuses, in St. Charles County, because of bitter disputes between supporters of Rep. Ron Paul and attendees supporting other presidential hopefuls. Confusion and contention also marred several other crowded Republican gatherings, the Associated Press reported.

In Clay County, arguments between Paul supporters and others became so intense that the caucus chairman threatened to have voters removed by force.

Backers of the Texas congressman said they were upset their views weren’t being heard. “We’re just a little frustrated because caucuses are supposed to be run by a very strict set of rules,” said Paul supporter John Findlay, who lost his bid to become caucus chairman. “We raised a number of points of order, points of information, points of parliamentary inquiry, many of which have been ignored.”


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/17/3497490/missouri-caucuses-marked-by-contention.html#storylink=cpy

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Missouri caucuses marked by contention, with no clear victor yet (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 OP
Hmm. Paulbots whining again. anti-alec Mar 2012 #1
Whining or trying to have their voices heard? Sherman A1 Mar 2012 #2
Here's a report from one of the leaders on FB: proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #6
yes, read it earlier and the Sherman A1 Mar 2012 #7
Here's a video of the arrest proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #8
Will the cops waterboard the arrested man? nt bluestate10 Mar 2012 #13
Ironic. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #14
I'm lovin it. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #3
My sister was at the St. Charles caucus that Santorums supporter took over FreeState Mar 2012 #4
Check out the comments after the article. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #5
I'm pissed for them, actually Aerows Mar 2012 #9
They have brought every bit of this chaos on themselves proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #11
I live in MS Aerows Mar 2012 #15
Is it too late to ship them guns and ample rounds? bluestate10 Mar 2012 #10
Looking Forward To A Real 'Floor Fight' In Tampa, Myself, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2012 #12

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. Whining or trying to have their voices heard?
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 06:31 PM
Mar 2012

While I don't think especially highly of any of the GOP candidates or their followers (at least their points of view) I would hope that they all are able to have their views presented in a process that is fair to all.

One could very well see a situation where there might be some underhanded dealings going on in the caucuses.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
14. Ironic.
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:28 PM
Mar 2012

Every single one of the people in the crowd likely support taking the right to vote from racial minorities, and college students. Doubtful that a single one of them see how dangerous their desires to suppress voting is, ultimately to them. When there are no more weak links to break, there is no option for those with authoritarian tendencies but to go after links that were once secure.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
4. My sister was at the St. Charles caucus that Santorums supporter took over
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 08:57 PM
Mar 2012

The committee was appointed (not elected) by the Santorum Temporary Chair. When asked to vote in agreance the audience said No and the Temporary Chair said yes. A major disagreement erupted. Citizens were arrested for turning on their cameras and the meeting was ajourned. The Citizens of the county were told to leave the building and that we lost our ability to vote in delegates. The public chanted - let us vote but again were asked to leave or be arrested. About 65 % of the public in attendance wore Romney Stickers.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. I'm pissed for them, actually
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 08:59 PM
Mar 2012

They clearly violated the rules of the caucus, and that should alarm anyone, Democrat, Independent or Republican.

When a caucus picks a candidate over the will of the voters, that should be cause for alarm. Let's be frank here - no one would put up with this, either, if it happened in a Democratic caucus. I would probably have been arrested too over this gross breach of voter law.

I see nothing amusing about this. What I see is that our political process is in flames, and that is NO cause for joy just because it happened to the other side. It will happen on ours, too, and this MUST NOT STAND.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
11. They have brought every bit of this chaos on themselves
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:18 PM
Mar 2012

I don't feel the least bit sorry for them.

In 2008, here in red state hell, Democrats in my county stood in line while it was RAINING ICE at caucus locations all over the area. And we waited for 3 or 4 hours PEACEFULLY. This was several months before Obama took the nomination so we had no clear candidate yet. There were no fights, no arrests, no hassles. No one broke the rules of the caucus. Just a long wait.

And that was typical all across the country.

So don't say it will happen to us too. That's a ridiculous accusation. We don't have any lunatic Ron Paul anarchists in our party. We don't have any whacko far right Santorum supporters either.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. I live in MS
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:55 PM
Mar 2012

I know about Red States. Don't give in to the idea that our party is so pure it could never happen to us - that kind of thinking leads to disaster. Instead, take away from it an example of what we must not do - we cannot let party heads get to the point where they think their opinions are absolute.

There is a lesson to be learned here. We must not be blind to it merely because we don't like the messenger.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
10. Is it too late to ship them guns and ample rounds?
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:17 PM
Mar 2012

I could care less that republicans are fighting eachother.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
12. Looking Forward To A Real 'Floor Fight' In Tampa, Myself, Sir
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:20 PM
Mar 2012

Easily half the delegates will be CCW holders and doubtless carrying: three dead, eight wounded sounds about adequate....

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