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I decided to post the transcripts that are made wholly by myself of the recordings released by 911 and posted on the City of Sanford site: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html
I will post all the tapes but I am starting with number 3 since that's the one where you can hear a lot of screaming and TWO gunshots. Initially there was said to be only ONE gunshot. This transcription is graphic. Please be advised. The screaming goes on for almost the entire call until the gunshots. [] These brackets signify my interjection of on the situation. () These brackets are just other people or sounds in the background of the calls.
-Onset: screams from a male can be heard in the background.- [At first I thought the woman had the tv on in the background and it wasn't until the call progressed that I realized what the fuck was going on.]
911 Dispatcher - female: 911, do you need police, fire or medical?
-pause then, More screaming.-
Woman: Maybe both, I'm not sure. There's just someone screaming outside.
911 D: Okay, What's the address that they're near?
Woman: -DEAD AIR-
911 D: Okay, now is it a male or female? (Shouts and screaming can still be heard. But from one person)
Woman: Sounds like a male.
911 D: And you don't know why.
Woman: I don't know why. I think they're yelling help. (The shouting can still be heard going on.) But I don't know. Just send some one quick.
911 D: Does he look hurt to you? Ma'am.
Woman: I can't see him. I don't want to go out there. I don't know what's going on. So... (male talking in the background connected to the woman on the line---I can't make out what he says. She responds to him but I can't make out what she says either. At this point a really loud scream.)
911 D: So you think he's yelling help.
Woman: Yes.
All Happens at the same time: 911 D: Alright. What is your n--- GUN SHOT 1 Woman: You don't...
Woman: Just. There's gunshots.
911 D: You just heard gunshots. (she says it more like a statement)
Woman: Yes.
911 D: How many - GUN SHOT 2
Woman: Just one - two...Get down (speaking to the man in the room with her)
Male in background -[ I heard "holy shit"...but I could be wrong.]
Woman: No come here. ( To male in the room with her.)
911 D: Is he no longer moving? (As woman speaks over her. I cannot make out what she's saying but she's speaking to the man in the room with her).
Woman: No...I don't know. -PAUSE- Jeremy get in here, now! Jeremy, get up here.
911 D: Alright, is he right outside?
Woman: Yup, pretty much. Out the back. (Man (assuming it's Jeremy here) in background saying, "There was gunshots."
911 D: Is he in front of or behind that address?
Woman: He's behind my house. (very frustrated)
911 D: Okay.
Woman: Just stay away from the windows.
911 D: I don't hear any yelling any more. Do you hear anything?
Woman: No, I don't because I'm hiding upstairs. There was gunshots just outside our house. You've obviously sent someone already, right?
911 D: Yes, it's in dispatch. What's your name and phone number?
Woman: My name -DEAD AIR-, my phone number is -DEAD AIR-.
911 D: How do you spell your last name?
Woman: -DEAD AIR-
911 D: Okay. Do you hear any vehicles leaving? Or anyone else? Or anything else?
Woman: There's people yelling. But I don't want to go down there.
911 D: And multiple people are yelling now?
Woman: Yeah.
911 D: Okay. Alright we do have officers on the way. Just call us back if you do see or hear anything else suspicious like any vehicles leaving or anything like that, okay?
Woman: Okay.
911 D: Alright. Thank you.
I cannot understand how there was not an immediate arrest of this Zimmerman guy right after these tapes were heard. It may be hard to assume who was the victim initially but the screaming would suggest the person without the gun is not the one screaming. I mean if I am unarmed my and someone is pointing a gun at me--- I'd be screaming. Although, I guess it could be said Zimmerman is the one screaming for help. But he has the gun and shoots twice. Within a minute of each other.
anti-alec
(420 posts)This is a tragedy.
Let me know when you have posted the transcripts for the other calls.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I'm getting to them.
Vabby
LisaL
(44,973 posts)There might be other noises that people confuse for gunshots.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I think the second sound was more muffled only because at this point she's making her way too another part of the house. Remember after the second sound, or what I believed to be the second gunshot sound she then states to the woman on the phone she's no longer downstairs but upstairs. And compared to most of the people who had called 911 she's the one with the greatest vantage point on the line so far.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Some of the witnesses on 911 calls were asked and said they heard one gunshot. Whatever the second sound is on that tape, I think it's not a gunshot but some sort of other sound people are mistaking for a gun shot.
"Sanford police said Sunday that a check of the weapon showed only one shot was fired."
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2697604/trayvon-martins-parents-criss.html#storylink=cpy
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to me that the person screaming for help, had been silenced.
There were other witnesses also, and all of them basically confirm was is heard on this tape. Someone calling for help, a gunshot, and then silence
What I would like to see is a timeline. Eg, Zimmerman called the cops and there is a tape now of that call. I have read that it took the cops twenty minutes to arrive at the scene after that initial call. What was Zimmerman doing during those 20 minutes? And how far from his home was the teenager when the call was made? Was he 20 minutes away?
So, at what point in the twenty minutes since he made the call, did the shooting occur. Was it five, ten or fifteen minutes later? I guess we would know if we knew how long after the shooting the cops arrived. Or since they had received more calls after the shooting, did they send out different units?
Ziggystrange
(66 posts)and was injured before the bastard shot him.
They have all the evidence they need on those taped calls including the yelling and the shooting.
This was murder 1st degree if the fact is the person was shot while laying on the ground screaming for help.
2 callers described this, and one said they were wrestling after they argued, then one was down and screaming for help, next thing you hear is a shot.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Zimmerman is getting cover from the local cops on this.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,316 posts)'Execution' is something done by the state, after a trial. Even a 'gangland-style execution' has people deciding on it. But that would still be murder.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)This one was the one I wanted to get out there because it had the closest vantage point from what I could hear---since the screaming was so clear and they were the earliest call as well.
Ziggystrange
(66 posts)There are 2 that tie the story together for me.
1. The old lady teacher who described it and kept referring to wishing she could have helped the injured screaming man.
2. The last one where the girls brother says he saw the man on the ground screaming and asking for help, and later heard the shot.
Thank you for all the work. This is a horrible story, I hope people are going to demand to have justice for this kid.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)As the mother of two teenage boys, I found it very difficult to listen to this tape, but I felt it was my obligation as a citizen to do so. This case has upset me for days, but there have been lots of people - including some on DU - insisting that all is well and there is no evidence that anything bad happened, etc.
Anybody with any doubts needs to listen to this tape for themselves. The transcript is good but written words can't capture the visceral emotion of the child who is screaming for his life.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)This case has me furious
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Damn the apologists. This was murder, and since it was rich white on black murder, the rules are different.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Ziggystrange
(66 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)George Zimmerman is white.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I can tell you for a fact it's very common and I'm from New York. My sister faced it more than I did. This is mainly between Blacks and Dominicans from my background. It didn't help we were proud Haitians.
JI7
(89,249 posts)what he did was still not ok.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)"he [Zimmerman] has not been charged because there are no grounds to disprove his story of what happened."
Bullshit! There are witnesses to what happened and the damn tape. The poor kid was accosted and was screaming for help, it sounds like.
If Treyvon or any black man had pursued and shot a white guy just like that for the same reasons ("looks suspicious" , the black man would be in JAIL. Why isn't Zimmerman?
This is senseless.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)This incident was disturbing and heartbreaking as the story was first told ... with every bit of further information it boggles the mind how this Zimmerman is allowed to walk the streets.
He executed a teenager (a person straddling child and adulthood) ... for simply "being."
My heart breaks for the young one, his parents and all of those that loved him.
My fervent prayer is that this scum vigilante neighborhood terrorist is brought to account for his depraved actions.
provis99
(13,062 posts)His nose was also broken by the kid, so it looks like justifiable homicide after all.
Ziggystrange
(66 posts)Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/17/trayvon-martin-killing-yo_n_1355795.html
Austin's mother, Sheryl Brown, said that the trauma from the night has not been limited to what her son witnessed. It also includes the way she says that the police and some media have twisted his account of the night to fit a self-defense theory, to say that a 13-year-old witness has claimed Zimmerman, and not Martin, was screaming for help. Both Austin and his mother are adamant that the teen could not see who was screaming, but they believe now that it was Martin.
Brown said in hindsight she feels the police investigator on the case attempted to lead her son to provide information that he didn't have. The investigator, she said, would nod yes when asking if it was the man in the T-shirt, who turned out to be Zimmerman, and not the one in the hooded sweatshirt, Martin, who was screaming out for help. And while the police have said that they don't have any evidence to refute Zimmerman's claims of self-defense, the investigators had a different story when they visited her family about a week after the shooting, Brown said.
"That investigator said flat out that we don't think it was self-defense," Brown said, recalling the day the police came to interview Austin, more than a week after the shooting. "Several times he said, 'I have kids, and I'm going to tell you something that I don't tell many people.' He looked at me and said, 'You have to read between the lines. There's some stereotyping going on.'"
She continued: "He stood here in my family room telling me that this guy [Zimmerman] is not right and it wasn't self-defense and that they have to prove that it wasn't. He was adamant about that. I don't know if that was to make me less uncomfortable or to make us feel that he was on our side."
In recent days, other witnesses have come forward to say that the police attempted to twist their testimony to support Zimmerman's claims of self-defense or ignored them entirely, including two witnesses who joined the Martin family during a press conference on Friday.
A police spokesman could not be reached immediately for comment. The Sanford Police have said in the past that there is little evidence to refute Zimmerman's claims. But the department has also publicly stated that some witnesses have since contradicted their initial statements to police, which supported the self-defense theory.
This guy was told to stand down and wait for police, he did not.
He went after the kid who ran from him, according to his own words.
Apparently he caught up to the kid and there was a struggle.
He got his nose broken. He has a violent past history.
Sounds to me like he started and lost the fight then decided to kill the kid.
That's not self defense, it's assault with intent, and possibly Murder, in the least voluntary manslaughter.
But I was not there, and all the facts are not out.
Let's see if the witness statements make sense before we decide what actually led to this kid being wrongfully killed.
He was minding his own business and unarmed walking home with skittles and iced tea, he should not be dead.
Mr. Zimmerman has a lot to answer for. It also appears the Police are not being very helpful in dispelling the idea of a cover up.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)He initiated the confrontation; he had not a shadow of legal authority or right to confront anyone on the public way. Therefore he has no right of self-defense, even under Florida law, if the confrontation he initiates goes sour for him.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)anti-alec
(420 posts)The man killed an unarmed kid.
A broken nose means SQUAT when a dead body is involved.
That is murder in the first degree, upgraded from aggravated assault after he shot the kid.
Depraved indifference.
That is NOT a justifiable homicide.
Why the hell is Sanford Police covering this guy?
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)The standard procedure taught in concealed weapons classes is to keep your weapon concealed until you are prepared to fire it. Approaching a non-violent, unarmed person with your gun drawn is would not be a normal thing to do (and probably illegal, depending on the circumstances.)
The investigation is still underway. We will learn what actually happened.
ETA FWIW I hear only on definite gunshot. The second noise could easily be something else.
JI7
(89,249 posts)i can't see any case where his shooting the boy was justified.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Zimmerman is a hot-head wanna-be billy badass, racist murderer.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Yeah, we don't know exactly what happened when the armed racist vigilante chased down and confronted the unarmed black kid walking home from the store--after the 911 dispatchers told him not to. Except that the unarmed black kid ended up dead and the armed racist vigilante killer is walking around free.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)you can now gun down anyone who appears threatening to you. Zimmerman was likely in compliance with the hilariously named "stand your ground" law