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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere's not a dimes difference between the Parties.
How much further right does the GOP have to go before you admit you're wrong?
RC
(25,592 posts)The current crop of Democrats are farther to the Right than the Republicans were 30 years ago. Or even 20 years ago. Does anyone really believe the Republicans could be getting away with what they have been doing since 2000 if the Democrats were actually Center/Center Left? Don't think so.
There may be still more than a dimes worth of difference, but that difference was closing until Rush over-ran his own stupidity. Let us all hope this War on Women destroys the Republican Party, come election time.
Raine
(30,540 posts)after the Rush incident. I would still bet that between the parties there will be even less distance than there is now in another four years.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)The Democratic Party today is farther right than the Dole/Kemp Republicans of 1996. And on some issues we're to the right of where George W. Bush was before he took office.
We need to, if not move left, at least stop drifting right!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)True, the Democrats want the top rate of tax to be 3.6% higher than the Republicans want it to be. But Democrats have been pushing free trade pacts for decades, and Obama is advocating for lower corporate taxes.
Socially, they are much further apart, and getting more so, with the GOP's ridiculous war on contraception and abortion rights. Admittedly Obama opposes marriage equality, but the Democrats are generally better than the Republicans on this issue.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Yes we remain always to the left of the clown car as it careens crazily rightward, but they are dragging us with them into this theocratic right-libertarian corporate feudalist hell on earth. Why our left of crazy position gives you comfort escapes me.
cali
(114,904 posts)in the form of the republican party, and as of this moment there is really no other viable vehicle for doing so other than the democratic party. There is no other functioning organization with the money and the infrastructure necessary. And we can't afford the time it takes to create such an organization. We need to fight now. So for me it's not so much a matter of taking comfort as it is using what's there. Pragmatism, I guess.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)....between the Centrist Democratic Party leadership and Republican Policy makers on:
*Free Trade
*Free Market Capitalism
*Military Imperialism & Military Spending
*Protections for War Profiteers & War Criminals
*The War on a Word (Terror)
(We've always been at WAR with EastAsia.)
*The dismantling of Constitutional Protections for citizens
*The collection and compilation of "private" intelligence on American citizens
*The extra-Constitutional Powers of a "Unitary Executive"
*The War on (some) Drugs
*Privatization of The Commons
*Welfare & Protections for Too Big to Fail Corporations
*Subsidies for Health Insurance Corporations
*support for "Private" Prisons
*non-verifiable, privately owned Black Box Voting
*reforming (privatizing) "Entitlements"
*sucking every last dollar out of the Working/Middle Class,
*Protecting the Portfolios of The Very RICH / Bailing Out Wall Street
[font size=4]Now THIS is "Bi-Partisanship"!
Better get used to it!
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Ya really want to know how much difference there is on Tax Policy?... 3-1/2%
The Republicans want to keep the top bracket at 35.5% .
The Centrist Democratic Party leadership thinks that 39% is better.
THAT is where "they" want to frame the debate.... 3-1/2%!
THAT is the BIG difference.
Where are the "Democrats" who think we should return to the Tax & Economic policies that spawned of a prosperous Middle/Working Class?
The upper tax bracket then was 70% - 90%.
The Republicans are not scheduled to re-take the White House until 2016.
They haven't fielded any serious candidates for 2012.
The current circus is Kabuki to keep the donations rolling in.
If the Republicans conceded, donations for BOTH Parties would dry up,
and we are talking several BILLIONS of dollars, and THAT is Big Business!
The SHOW must go on, so we will be treated to The Jerry Springer Election Extravaganza for the next year,
and breathless Media reports that the election is "too close to call".
They MUST maintain the illusion of a Horse Race to keep the BIG Bucks rolling in.
The Republicans are NOT trying to Win the White House.
What BOTH Parties are doing is called Milking the Rubes.
The ONLY thing you can do is sit back, and enjoy the Kabuki,
because everything else is Out-of-your-Hands,
with the possible exception of joining OWS.
Cherish your memories,
because "they" are taking everything else.
Have a nice day!
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limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)I very agree with that.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)They are two sides of the same coin. The social issues are a sideshow.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)denem
(11,045 posts)This statement is more true now than it was when Nader said it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=629300&mesg_id=629631
starroute
(12,977 posts)Swede
(33,244 posts)Just watching these psychos in the GOP blather tells you that.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)other than yourself?
On edit: Oops, sorry, I missed your sig line. I think Major Tom has gone.
denem
(11,045 posts)and Republican parties.
This statement is more true now than it was when Nader said it."
10-28-11.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=629300&mesg_id=629631
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)On other issues there is no difference. The issues where they are night and day is why I vote for the democratic party. The issues where they are the same is why I work for and donate to more progressive candidates.